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    The racist 'replacement theory' tied to the Buffalo shootings has increasingly become a right wing media rallying call

    Notice the article/headine doesn't say "but some other guy said racism some other time so both sides".

    The conspiracy theory, which has roots in France and also targets Jewish people, has become a common far-right ideology and has been connected to multiple mass shootings carried out by white supremacists, including the 2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, 2019 mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and the 2019 shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas.

    Although the Buffalo attack is still under investigation, the references to replacement theory in the document and its echoes in right wing media show how a racist and anti-Semitic conspiracy has been mainstreamed. Its central ideas are now promoted not just by violent extremists, but by right wing media personalities like Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

    "I mean, this is really ugly stuff, and it's really extremely similar to what is in this guy's manifest," said Matt Gertz, a senior fellow at Media Matters for America, a nonprofit media watchdog that has tracked the spread of replacement theory on Fox News.
    Link to Media Matters.

    A nationwide study from The Associated Press-NORC Center released this month found that people who supported ideas central to the white supremacist conspiracy theory were far more likely to be viewers of Fox News and the far-right networks OANN and Newsmax than other news outlets.
    Link to AP study.

    According to a recent investigation by The New York Times, Carlson amplified the theory during more than 400 episodes of his Fox News show, "Tucker Carlson Tonight," which was the second-highest rated cable news show in the US in the first quarter of this year, according to Adweek.
    Link to the NYTimes.

    If anyone is reading this who still wants to try "but some other person said racism some other time" they're more than welcome to find sources to back them up at least as good as those three I cited and linked. Failure to do so means your lack of defense can be summarily handwaved, and that you give permission to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Save your Trump diatribes for a Trump topic.

    Read the context of somehow racism is a conservative concern.

    Self identifies as a leftist and goes on to critique leftists as a leftist. Where leftists go wrong.
    The biggest way to identity a conservative masquerading as a liberal is if they use the word "leftist". Leftist is almost exclusively used among conservative circles and in conservative propaganda. Nobody on the left actually uses the word seriously, and only says it to quote neo nazis or serve some other explanation of their activities. Anyone who unironically identifies as "leftist" is lying. Because it's a pejorative that conservatives use.

    I realize they think they're being clever by doing this, but they're really not.
    Plenty of people have been holding their breath waiting for me to fail. I think they all suffocated years ago.
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    Just came here to remind people that the right has no moral conscious. If they ever try to morally scold you, it's not because they think what you're doing is wrong. Is because it's effective, and want to discourage you from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Anyone who unironically identifies as "leftist" is lying. Because it's a pejorative that conservatives use.
    I've always found it a bit strange that "leftist" is such a common thing to hear, and yet no one says "rightist."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Anyone who unironically identifies as "leftist" is lying. Because it's a pejorative that conservatives use.
    Ehhhh, I don't really see it as a pejorative. It's a simple word for "left-leaning". I know conservatives use it like it's an insult, which just makes it more funny than anything else. It's just another word for communist for them, making it all the more hilarious.

    Granted, I'm not entirely sure I've seen people use that word to describe themselves, specifically (myself included). Not something I've made a mental note of. But I could see people do that to give a very rough indication on where they stand, politically.
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    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Ehhhh, I don't really see it as a pejorative. It's a simple word for "left-leaning". I know conservatives use it like it's an insult, which just makes it more funny than anything else. It's just another word for communist for them, making it all the more hilarious.

    Granted, I'm not entirely sure I've seen people use that word to describe themselves, specifically (myself included). Not something I've made a mental note of. But I could see people do that to give a very rough indication on where they stand, politically.
    I'm more pointing out that every time someone self-identifies as a "Leftist" it's a conservative masquerading. And it seems to hold up for this guy as well.
    Plenty of people have been holding their breath waiting for me to fail. I think they all suffocated years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Just came here to remind people that the right has no moral conscious. If they ever try to morally scold you, it's not because they think what you're doing is wrong. Is because it's effective, and want to discourage you from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Not sure what your point is. Look at incarceration not to mention the very constitution of the US is based upon. Women being merely citizens and black not even considered citizens at all.
    UK had a Jim Crow era for example?

    The whole US system is white.
    The foundation is all white with to various degrees sincere attemps via amendments to go in another direction.

    Edit: just to make it clear, UK, France, Sweden, Hungary, every country suffer from racism in one form or another. My point was that the US system is built to and modified to keep it so as far as being justifiable. I mean it hardly a coinsident that "suddenly" *cough* there is a mass effort of rewriting electoral maps in order to limit people of color to vote..
    I'd think the most crucial difference is the level of violence. Many places in Europe are extremely racist and xenophobic but overt violence against minorities is just not nearly as common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I've always found it a bit strange that "leftist" is such a common thing to hear, and yet no one says "rightist."
    It might honestly be, that the further right someone is, the more likely a stonger, more negative word is used. Like "white supremacist". Or "mass murderer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It might honestly be, that the further right someone is, the more likely a stonger, more negative word is used. Like "white supremacist". Or "mass murderer".
    Yeah, there are plenty of derogatory terms for right-wing people. "Alt-right" is generally synonymous with "Trump-worshipping bigot who denies any and all reality that they find inconvenient" in online spaces. Or at least it was for a while there. But I was just saying that "rightist" specifically isn't something I ever hear.

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    Republicans are kind of open about their allegiances. MGT is open she fully supports the Q movement and people like her are the ones getting elected.
    I can identify maybe five of her ilk, I imagine if I thought long and hard I could make seven. In a delegation of 210, that’s a low percent. But I partially agree with you in that Kevin McCarthy’s leadership has been poor in minimizing the damage to House Republicans.

    That being said, I kind of agree with you. Democrats don't really push for dangerous ideas like at a leadership level but you can see exactly what type of policies and stuff they are pursuing. Remember defund the police? That entire campaign was really stupid and resulted in an increase in crime that still persists and now their proponents ,entirely unaware of the implications of what they actually proposed, were forced to roll it back

    Which kinda sours me on a lot of the progressive movement. They are so incredibly wealthy that they don't really put a second thought on the policies they push (which don't really affect them) and have to be forced to roll it back when the consequences inevitably hit. When you live in a rich neighborhood that doesn't have any crime as is you don't really care if the police check on you since you are already paying for private security lol

    There are a bunch of similar policies you can pin point but the whole defund the police one is funny and sad to me.
    Defund the police is a good example. Doubly so because the passions around George Floyd have calmed down, so it’s a little easier to talk about in terms of cops retiring early, inability to replace to pre-pandemic levels, increase in crime, and polling on civilian response to the importance of that issue among others.

    And defund the police always polled better in richer, whiter areas, and worse in the inner city and among minorities.

    I was never really a part of the progressive movement, so I can’t join you in feeling soured over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Defund the police is a good example.
    No it isn't. This is a thread about Carlson and his overtly racist agenda, as well as Trump and the mass murderers who follow him.

    You probably haven’t learned a lot about the people who were shot, beyond that they were Black
    Carlson started his Monday program strong, desperate to make anyone but himself to blame when the very specific white supremacist mantra he'd been recorded saying on his own program 400 times, yes it's been counted, I'm sure the people here saying "I never heard Carlson being racist" missed those 400 shows, blamed...the media.

    Well the liberal media, obviously. Not himself.

    He then went on to point out that gun violence happened in other places too, which is a lot like saying "some other person said racism some other time" in an attempt to pave over a white supremacist (following Carlson's mantra, again, 400+ times) intentionally going to a black neighborhood to murder black people. It's a deflection attempt only used by people who know they're part of the problem but don't want to be held accountable for their actions.

    "Surely Carlson mentioned gun control, if gun vi--"

    Not once. He did mention that Democrats were weaponizing this, which is an interesting word, considering this was a mass shooting murder. I think the dead people might take issue with the term "weaponizing" used to describe people looking for justice and consequences and not, for example, the person who followed Carlson's mantra when murdering them.

    Naturally, when seeing that his words were likely directly leading to the deaths of others, Carlson decided Monday to make his point even more blatant.

    [People] who disagree with Joe Biden are an existential threat to the nation, like Al Qaeda or climate change. A threat so profound we must declare war on it to survive. This threat Biden is referring to is you. He’s talking about his fellow Americans. No president has ever spoken like this. Ever.
    First of all, Trump did. Carlson is lying.

    Secondly, yes, Carlson did use the exact words "declare war" the show after one of his followers went on a mass murder while quoting Carlson.

    Then he talked about nuclear war with Russia and UFOs. No, really.

    Let this be clear: Carlson, after seeing one of his watchers follow his directions and murder a bunch of innocent people, did not back away from his own actions in any way. He offered thoughts and prayers to the families of the people his inspiration got murdered, of course, but that's it. After a mass murder, he declared the people upset about the mass murder the enemy, declared war on them, and continued to give exactly the same hate-filled violence-incentivizing mantra as he's given hundreds of times before.

    I know that the left and all the gatekeepers on Twitter become literally hysterical if you use the term ‘replacement,’ if you suggest that the Democratic Party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots, with new people, more obedient voters, from the third world. But, they become hysterical because that’s what’s happening, actually. Let’s just say it: That’s true.

    Every time they import a new voter, I become disenfranchised as a current voter.

    Why should I sit back and take that?
    -- Tucker Carlson, in public

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Tucker Carlson: "When confronted or pressed for details, [proponents of diversity] retreat into a familiar platitude, which they repeat like a zen koan: diversity is our strength. But is diversity our strength? The less we have in common, the stronger we are? Is that true of families? Is it true in neighborhoods or businesses? Of course not. Then why is it true of America? Nobody knows. Nobody's even allowed to ask the question."

    Tucker Carlson, again: "How precisely is diversity our strength. Since you've made this our new national motto, please be specific as you explain it. Can you think, for example, of other institutions such as, I don't know, marriage or military units, in which the less people have in common the more cohesive they are? Do you get along better with your neighbors or your coworkers if you can't understand each other or share no common values?"
    I heard this the other day and it made me feel a little sick. Intentionally ignoring the countless ways in which multiple viewpoints, backgrounds, beliefs, ideals, and interests working together can better society and the world, all to push this disgusting "we don't want no outsiders" agenda. It's absolutely abhorrent. I wanted to punch Tucker Carlson in the face right then and there, and I still would if given the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    I heard this the other day and it made me feel a little sick.
    Fortunately, there's an easy out.

    Carlson wants to be with people who are like him? Sure. Let's see how he does when only surrounded by other men. You'd think he'd be okay with that, right? Surely they'd have more in common?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Fortunately, there's an easy out.

    Carlson wants to be with people who are like him? Sure. Let's see how he does when only surrounded by other men. You'd think he'd be okay with that, right? Surely they'd have more in common?
    He should move to...

    FREEDOM CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I've always found it a bit strange that "leftist" is such a common thing to hear, and yet no one says "rightist."
    Probably more accurate to say wrongest. I'll see myself out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I've always found it a bit strange that "leftist" is such a common thing to hear, and yet no one says "rightist."
    We have the term "racist" for them.
    But yea the right-wing loves there strawman to argue against against hence the names and groups like "antifa" (a fictional group)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    We have the term "racist" for them.
    Fair enough.

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    Tucker Carlson, forgetting that people watch his show, claims he doesn't know what white replacement is.



    So, one of two things is the case here.

    1) Carlson brought up white replacement theory, something he does not know what it is, 400+ times on his show anyhow.

    2) Carlson is lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    1) Carlson brought up white replacement theory, something he does not know what it is, 400+ times on his show anyhow.
    In his defense, this is the same guy that claimed he didn't know what CRT was, and then immediately went on to give a completely inaccurate and stupid description of CRT after saying he didn't know what it even meant.

    So this checks out for the usual Tucker Carlson/viewer doublethink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So this checks out for the usual Tucker Carlson/viewer doublethink.
    Man, I wish I had a job where I could spend an entire calendar year giving my students completely inaccurate information, only to handwave it with "I don't know what it is" at the end. It's like FOX News is intentionally rewarding incompetence.

    Or, of course, Carlson is lying and FOX News is okay with him pushing white supremacy.

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    I think like 8/10 of Bernie's top campaigners and surrogates have gone on to becoming full time podcasters. 7/10 are basically right wing podcasters at this point. sad truth, he hired the worst people.

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    BJG attempts to make the case that Tucker actually said nothing wrong because it wasn’t “explicit”. Instead she lambasts Liberals, saying “the more Libs accuse him of being racist without being able to articulate what he said is wrong the more Tucker gains credibility.”


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