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    Bit of a ground report from Wisconsin, but what the fuck is the DNC even doing?

    I don't even know who is running against Ron Johnson right now. Ads for Ron Johnson are dominating YouTube, social media, and TV. Every commercial break on streaming services like Hulu or prior to watching any YouTube video, I get a fucking ad for Ron Johnson whining about gas prices and inflation.

    I see 8 candidates currently running in Wisconsin with the primary on August 8th. Ron Johnson will have had 2-3 months of un-opposed advertising before we finally choose which one of these 8 candidates is going to go up against him.

    This just boggles my mind that we're getting no democrat messaging here in Wisconsin at this point, especially since this is one of the two Senate seats Democrats desperately need to flip (and have good odds to flip) in order to gain at least two seats in the Senate.

    All I can do is joke towards my Republican family members and make comments like, now that gas prices are dropping, what is Ron Johnson going to run on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Bit of a ground report from Wisconsin, but what the fuck is the DNC even doing?

    I don't even know who is running against Ron Johnson right now. Ads for Ron Johnson are dominating YouTube, social media, and TV. Every commercial break on streaming services like Hulu or prior to watching any YouTube video, I get a fucking ad for Ron Johnson whining about gas prices and inflation.

    I see 8 candidates currently running in Wisconsin with the primary on August 8th. Ron Johnson will have had 2-3 months of un-opposed advertising before we finally choose which one of these 8 candidates is going to go up against him.

    This just boggles my mind that we're getting no democrat messaging here in Wisconsin at this point, especially since this is one of the two Senate seats Democrats desperately need to flip (and have good odds to flip) in order to gain at least two seats in the Senate.

    All I can do is joke towards my Republican family members and make comments like, now that gas prices are dropping, what is Ron Johnson going to run on?
    Greetings fellow "democrat"!
    For the umpteenth time, the "DNC" does not run every fucking election you happen to notice. This is lazy scapegoating.
    Instead of spreading more misinformation, once can put in bare amount of effort and promote a candidate. I know, "Cheerleading" is considered to be cringe these days. But someone has to do it.
    Instead of election work, people would rather be online, making shit up for likes. Or they would rather be "vibing" with their conservative friends and family.

    All I can do is joke
    That's a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Bit of a ground report from Wisconsin, but what the fuck is the DNC even doing?

    I don't even know who is running against Ron Johnson right now. Ads for Ron Johnson are dominating YouTube, social media, and TV. Every commercial break on streaming services like Hulu or prior to watching any YouTube video, I get a fucking ad for Ron Johnson whining about gas prices and inflation.

    I see 8 candidates currently running in Wisconsin with the primary on August 8th. Ron Johnson will have had 2-3 months of un-opposed advertising before we finally choose which one of these 8 candidates is going to go up against him.

    This just boggles my mind that we're getting no democrat messaging here in Wisconsin at this point, especially since this is one of the two Senate seats Democrats desperately need to flip (and have good odds to flip) in order to gain at least two seats in the Senate.

    All I can do is joke towards my Republican family members and make comments like, now that gas prices are dropping, what is Ron Johnson going to run on?
    The DNC runs nothing but email fundraising campaigns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Greetings fellow "democrat"!
    Why the quotes? Are you not a Democrat? Feel free to browse my post history if you think that I am not a Democrat. Now, kindly take a fucking step back, preferably into a sharp object at ass level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    For the umpteenth time, the "DNC" does not run every fucking election you happen to notice. This is lazy scapegoating.
    Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that when we need to gain more seats in the US Senate, that running a candidate during a midterm where the incumbent whose running for a third term won his second term in 2016, with Trump on the ballot, by 50.17%. Note, our second Senator in Wisconsin Tammy Baldwin, won re-election in 2018 with 55.4% of the vote.

    When we need to gain two Senators, actually running a campaign in Wisconsin is going to mean a very good shot at getting one of those two Senators in DC.

    Lazy scapegoating is going to be when people blame Wisconsin voters for re-electing Ron Johnson after he's been pumping months of propaganda on radio, TV, YouTube, and Facebook before we even had a primary candidate selected.

    This all feels like 2016 when Hillary decided to ignore Wisconsin because she somehow thought it was solidly Blue and would never flip. Only this time, it's the DNC and Democrat aligned-PACs who probably believe that Ron Johnson is for sure going to lose since Tammy Baldwin won in 2018 with 55% of the vote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Instead of spreading more misinformation
    That's literally Ron Johnson's only job right now apparently and he's got millions of dollars to pump into spreading that misinformation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    once can put in bare amount of effort and promote a candidate. I know, "Cheerleading" is considered to be cringe these days. But someone has to do it.
    Wisconsin is a very politically segregated state. If you're not living in Madison or Milwaukee, the primary candidates are probably spending no money on your area. I looked up to at least see the names and I only recognized a few names as names currently working with the Governor. So what you're proposing is I spend a few hours researching these candidates, and then offer my support to their campaigns which would likely have me driving 1-2 hours to help them campaign in areas so they can win the primary?

    All the while, Ron Johnson is pumping literal "Biden is bad" propaganda to the entire rest of the state to get people fired up over inflation and gas prices?

    With a genius battle-plan like that, we definitely aren't going to be gaining the 2 US Senate Seats we need to gain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Instead of election work, people would rather be online, making shit up for likes. Or they would rather be "vibing" with their conservative friends and family.
    I don't even get what the fuck you're trying to say here. I don't bother with regular election work because clearly the Democrats and the DNC are pretty fucking incompetent.

    I've personally spent my fucking time trying to reach friends and family and flip them either to vote Democrat or to not vote for Trump and any Trump related candidates at all. I've successfully done that as well. I've turned my one vote into at least 5-10 "votes" by people who either won't be voting or who have now seen through the Republican bullshit.

    My time is better spent in that manner than sending out fucking emails while Ron Johnson is screaming about energy independence on TV.

    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    The DNC runs nothing but email fundraising campaigns.
    And judging by the amount of pushback I've seen against the bullshit propaganda that Ron Johnson has been streaming to houses in Wisconsin for the last couple of months, I 100% believe you.

  5. #105
    Pro tip: don’t film an ad for your PA senate campaign from your mansion in New Jersey.

    From candidate John Fetterman's account.

    So yeah Dr. Oz the humble servant of Pennsylvania decided to cut a video criticizing the Philly mayor. The issue is he shot it from his New Jersey mansion, not even bothering to travel across the border to his grifter address in Penn.



    Fetterman is strong atm, but I really hope there are enough people who don't see this con from a mile away by Dr. Oz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I assume this is the right place to put this, I don't think I'd heard of this guy today but...

    The fact this guy will get any votes at all should sicken voting Americans.
    This is what CTE does to your brain, apparently.

    Though him bragging about America's "cleanest air and water" is not only not true, but hilariously it's mostly thanks to the EPA...which Republicans keep trying to destroy or make useless.

    Seriously, I get it, politicians sometimes say dumb shit. But it seems like most of what Republicans say in general is dumb shit.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/polit...-us/index.html

    Case in point, as I believe I shared elsewhere, Chip Roy boosting the hilariously stupid disinformation that Justin Trudeau has fled Canada to the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    This is what CTE does to your brain, apparently.

    Though him bragging about America's "cleanest air and water" is not only not true, but hilariously it's mostly thanks to the EPA...which Republicans keep trying to destroy or make useless.

    Seriously, I get it, politicians sometimes say dumb shit. But it seems like most of what Republicans say in general is dumb shit.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/01/polit...-us/index.html

    Case in point, as I believe I shared elsewhere, Chip Roy boosting the hilariously stupid disinformation that Justin Trudeau has fled Canada to the US.
    To plug my own previous post about how he lied to his staffers, his staffers in a shocking twist everyone likely knows thinks he is super unfit for the job. Oh to plug my other post, I hope here in Georgia and Pennsylvania now the voters see through these two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    It just absolutely boggles my mind that people like this can garner votes at all. Just... how?

    Ironically, I'd joke about them and say they "need Jesus," but they're probably the exact same sort of people that identify as deeply religious.
    Because people are equally stupid and go, "Yeah, that sounds about right. This guy's a smart cookie who's really cooking with gas!"

    Because competency isn't the goal, power is the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I assume this is the right place to put this, I don't think I'd heard of this guy today but...
    Herschel on the climate/Green New Deal/air:

    "Since we don't control the air our good air decided to float over to China's bad air so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then now we got we to clean that back up."
    The fact this guy will get any votes at all should sicken voting Americans.
    And that fuckwit might win. Fivethiryeight has Georgia's seat as a toss-up atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Because people are equally stupid and go, "Yeah, that sounds about right. This guy's a smart cookie who's really cooking with gas!"

    Because competency isn't the goal, power is the goal.
    And "what's best for the nation and it's people" is a very distant 13th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    It just absolutely boggles my mind that people like this can garner votes at all. Just... how?

    Ironically, I'd joke about them and say they "need Jesus," but they're probably the exact same sort of people that identify as deeply religious.
    It's Georgia. The entire state has like five brain cells that they can all collectively rub together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Well, this one might do the Wyoming debate. Sorry I don't have vid clip but clink on link.

    The highlights from yesterday's debate featuring the Republican candidates for the Governor of Arizona

    Vid embedded.

    So they jump right off in denying the 2020 election. Talks about 200k ballots trafficked by mules. LOL the guy candidate interrupts by saying "I having been with a group of this many women since I was at a baby shower". Of course they try to out anti-choice themselves when asked in case of rape or incest and the one hedges, but you know she don't care. The dude closing statement is he has never been in drag, wtf???

    Watch its only barely over 2 mins.
    Oh my god. I'm so sorry. I know there's worse out there, but jeez. It hurts. I apologize on behalf of my state. I know we can do better. I know we have better around here, somewhere. Unless all the ASU grads fuck off out of state immediately, which now that I type it yeah makes sense.

    Going to go cry now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I assume this is the right place to put this, I don't think I'd heard of this guy today but...

    The fact this guy will get any votes at all should sicken voting Americans.
    What's best is Walker speaking as if he is an expert. He starts by telling crowd "we need energy for everything" then rolls into he tells the crowd he will inform them on climate change before going into his China rant.

    I'm stealing Sam Seder, a liberal commentator. He mentions this particular Georgia election and midterms about being a test of people just voting for team red and not for the quality of candidate. Seder speaking of course on our lower turnout in midterms which generally helps Republicans.

    Right now Warnock is solid, but can't sleep
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    Fetterman’s team announced the accomplishment Tuesday, reporting it’s the most money any Pennsylvania Senate candidate has ever raised in one-quarter of fundraising.

    The totals come from over 358,000 donations from over 200,00 unique donors, the campaign touted. they also said these numbers include more than 139,000 first-time donors. Heading into the summer, Fetterman has a reported $5.5 million cash on hand to continue to battle Dr. Oz of Senator Toomey’s coveted seat in D.C.


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    The primaries continue, Republicans lose as required when they're running against each other in a primary. Duh. That's how it works.

    Unless.

    GOP primary losers cast doubt on elections

    Yep, this AP article details how the Party of Trump is hiding under the "I didn't lose, you cheated" rock.

    It was no shock that state Rep. Ron Hanks and Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters handily lost their recent Republican primaries in Colorado for U.S. Senate and secretary of state.

    Hanks was outspent 14-to-1 by his rival. Peters, who was vying to become Colorado’s top elections official, had been indicted on seven felony charges alleging she helped orchestrate a breach of her voting system’s hard drive.

    But this past week, both candidates formally requested recounts of their primary elections from June 28, suggesting widespread irregularities seen by no one other than their own campaigns and allies.

    “I have reasons to believe extensive malfeasance occurred in the June 2022 primary,” Peters wrote in her recount request, “and that the apparent outcome of this election does not reflect the will of Colorado voters not only for myself but also for many other America First statewide and local primary candidates.”
    "Oh that's just two. Hardly a reason to--"

    In Georgia, Trump’s two recruits to challenge the state’s governor and secretary of state — former Sen. David Perdue and former Rep. Jodi Hice — admitted defeat after they lost the May primaries. But Kandiss Taylor, a fringe candidate who won only 3% of the primary vote for governor, refused to concede, claiming there was widespread cheating.
    "Three, fine. But th-"

    In South Carolina, Republican Harrison Musselwhite — who goes by Trucker Bob — lost his primary against Gov. Henry McMaster by 66 percentage points. Still, he complained of problems with the election to the state party, as did another losing GOP contender, Lauren Martel, who ran for for attorney general. The party rejected their claims.
    "Okay, four. Fine. So wh--"

    Joey Gilbert, who came in second in the Nevada Republican primary for governor, posted a Facebook video days after the June tally showing him 26,000 votes short. “These elections, the way they’ve been run, it’s like Swiss cheese,” he said. “There’s too many holes.”

    Gilbert, who attended Trump’s rally near the White House on Jan. 6, 2021, before the riot at the U.S. Capitol, demanded a recount. The results appear unlikely to substantially change the final tally. He did not return messages seeking comment.
    "...are you done?"

    Funny story: no.

    In Arizona, former newscaster Kari Lake won Trump’s endorsement in her quest for the party’s nomination for governor, insisting that he won the presidency in 2020. This past week, she told supporters that her top opponent in the primary “might be trying to set the stage for another steal” in next month’s primary.
    "Okay! Fine! I get it! So wh--"

    In Colorado, county clerk Peters immediately questioned the primary results once the tally showed her losing badly in the secretary of state’s race. Claiming fraud as she trailed former county clerk Pam Anderson
    No relation.

    a regular debunker of Trump’s election lies, Peters said: “Looking at the results, it’s just so obvious it should be flipped.”
    So here's my latest challenge. I state, with this as evidence, that the Party of Trump has decided to follow Trump's example, and to claim without basis or evidence or even common sense that, if they lost, it's because their opponents, their fellow Republicans, have cheated. This is systemic, and this is ongoing.

    I will now start challenging varous posters -- some who are known Trump supporters, some whose opinion on the subject I just want to hear -- to contradict this. Since I am claiming Trump is the cause of this objectively significant policy within the "Republican" Party after his failed coup, I will be demanding significant evidence from 2018 or before.

    And you might want to count those names. Just one or two examples from 2016 or so won't be enough.

    Or, these challenged posters can agree the evidence backs my assertion.

    "Could those challenged posters pick another option? Such as, these people aren't mimicking Trump but someone else?"

    I mean, good luck with that. Without evidence to defend that assertion, they will be treated as admission it is Trump's fault, and also admission they are cowards for failing to admit that. But if they can back their claims, I will of course read what they have to write.

    I, unlike the Party of Trump apparently, am willing to admit when I'm beaten fairly.

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    Dr. Oz continues to gift more gaffes to Fetterman.

    Dr. Oz failed to report his ownership of a Garden State apartment [complex], home to friends tied to groups involved in Armenian genocide denial.

    To Fetterman's credit, he's putting in the work to attract median voters. Putting more distance between himself and Bernie.

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    I guess this can go here because it's conveniently lining up with the approaching Midterms: Andrew Yang and a bunch of 'Former Republicans' launch a shiny new Third Party with no clearly defined policy positions - as of yet.

    The entire article describing the party more or less reads like a bunch of 'Both sides' centrist nothing, and given Andrew Yang's history it just feels like he concocted a plan with a bunch of 'Former' Republicans to run spoiler candidates against Dems in the upcoming elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I guess this can go here because it's conveniently lining up with the approaching Midterms: Andrew Yang and a bunch of 'Former Republicans' launch a shiny new Third Party with no clearly defined policy positions - as of yet.

    The entire article describing the party more or less reads like a bunch of 'Both sides' centrist nothing, and given Andrew Yang's history it just feels like he concocted a plan with a bunch of 'Former' Republicans to run spoiler candidates against Dems in the upcoming elections.
    A cynical, but plausible take for spoilers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    A cynical, but plausible take for spoilers.

    If Democrats won’t bail out my crypto losses, then I have no choice but to join the Forward Party.

    Pitchbot be spitting out bangers.
    Like, don't get me wrong, we're in dire need of more than the two dipshit parties we have now when the choices are 'Violently Shameless Christian Nationalists' and 'The other guys who do the bare minimum to be marginally better than the actual violent facists'. But the Forward Party looks like a scam made to spite dems and/or indirectly promote republicans. Watch them only field candidates in vulnerable swing states.

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    I know people hate it when DEm clear the field! /s But forming a consensus is a normal thing for political groups.

    A number of candidates have dropped out of the primary to endorse Mandela Barnes. In the Wisconsin primary to challenge for Ron Johnson's senate seat.
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    Johnson is one of the most vulnerable seats dems can flip but it's likely going to come down to how good the democrats are at organizing registration and transportation for voters in Madison and Milwaukee.

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