SCOTUS draft to remove Roe V Wade leaked

[cubby]

Damm this is dark! :O

Not that SCOTUS overturned Roe Vs Wade, but that so many states are just instantly making it illigal....Like, instantly O.o

I get the entire life-vs-choice here, but just completly removing a health system in your state overnight, no thinking about providing something to replace it or support woman instead, nope, just complete removal overnight O.o

States like Oregon and Washington just got way more attractive.

Given the past two years, Canada actually seems a lot more attractive.

[uuuhname]

yeah your feelings.

????????

okay, cool, great discussion.

again I'm just stating how events went down, the fact you and others get so viscerally upset over it just seems like a cope and an attempt to project your own guilt onto others.

[VMSmith]

This thread seems full of people excited to wet themselves over what they perceive as a new opportunity to say "See, Hillary was our savior! You should'a done what we told you!" than anything else, right now.

This ignores the fact that Hillary was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign and lost to her own lack of effort. Remember everyone laughing at Trump for going to Michigan in the last two weeks of the campaign, while Clinton sat around assuming it was all in the bag?

[Traveler Voltin]

We are going backwards not forwards.

[Crissi]

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okay, cool, great discussion.

see? This is why you shouldnt be taken seriously, at all. Putting the blame on the liberals who did their jobs instead of the people that sat out and the conservatives themselves. She's only a bad candidate top poeple that cant be bothered to have a thought in their head beyond "clinton killed a man" or "why didnt she visit meeeee? She's a big meanie head"

[Lenonis]

the fuck is that supposed to mean?
i'm not stupid enough to blindly think that everything going on right now in the US is the result of one election 6 years ago, so that means i have a joker fantasy?

I mean, this ruling is directly a result of one election 6 years ago.

[anveena]

Well it's nice to see that thousands of children wont be killed every year in some states now. Thank you McConnell, Trump, and SCOTUS.

[Edge-]

Well it's nice to see that thousands of children wont be killed every year in some states now. Thank you McConnell, Trump, and SCOTUS.

Children aren't being killed. Unless we're talking about inside schools, in which case yes, they're being killed.

[Crissi]

Well it's nice to see that thousands of children wont be killed every year in some states now. Thank you McConnell, Trump, and SCOTUS.

you willing tp pay my medicla bills if i have to be hospitialized with a bad pregnancy? You willing to pay my transport if I have to have an abortion due to health but Texas wont allow me until the heartbeta stops?

[uuuhname]

This thread seems full of people excited to wet themselves over what they perceive as a new opportunity to say "See, Hillary was our savior! You should'a done what we told you!" than anything else, right now.

that's exactly what it is...

[Hansworst]

The US now has permanently changed to a theocratic third world country.

[Flurryfang]

Given the past two years, Canada actually seems a lot more attractive.

It really does. Atleast Canadas problems are about wierd ways of progress, not a direct regress.

That said, its always good to know, that US will never get boring. Im looking forward to hear the rise in blackmarket abortion pills and seeing alot of young woman in jail.

[uuuhname]

see? This is why you shouldnt be taken seriously, at all. Putting the blame on the liberals who did their jobs instead of the people that sat out and the conservatives themselves. She's only a bad candidate top poeple that cant be bothered to have a thought in their head beyond "clinton killed a man" or "why didnt she visit meeeee? She's a big meanie head"

I put the blame on Hillary and the Democrat's as a party... but okay any and all irony on this is just totally lost on you.

[Edge-]

that's exactly what it is...

Literally not, but the Bernie-stans are currently seeming to continue their horseshoe bend towards "we're the real victims here!" on a day when millions of women across America lost their bodily autonomy.

[Flurryfang]

This thread seems full of people excited to wet themselves over what they perceive as a new opportunity to say "See, Hillary was our savior! You should'a done what we told you!" than anything else, right now.

This ignores the fact that Hillary was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign and lost to her own lack of effort. Remember everyone laughing at Trump for going to Michigan in the last two weeks of the campaign, while Clinton sat around assuming it was all in the bag?

Seems like a lot of people are still living in the past, talking about an old election, filling their heads with knowledge about promotion routes and election tactics. So silly.

[Twdft]

It really does. Atleast Canadas problems are about wierd ways of progress, not a direct regress.

That said, its always good to know, that US will never get boring. Im looking forward to hear the rise in blackmarket abortion pills and seeing alot of young woman in jail.

Seeing how marihuana is now legal in almost all states the decrease in prisoners for it must somehow be made up by others.

[Crissi]

I put the blame on Hillary and the Democrat's as a party... but okay any and all irony on this is just totally lost on you.

I mean, again that's you avoiding any responsibility at all. She did her job of having good policy, I did my job by voting straight D regardless if I liked the Dems involved or not. If poeple wanna whine and cry about not being visited and thus voted for someone else, they need to deal with being called whiny babies.

I live in Texas. Democrats rarely visit here. Guess what, I'm not a baby and still manage to vote Dem regardless and try to make my state purple.

[Hansworst]

So should we send ships where women can have an abortion in international waters to the US like we did with other backwards countries?

[VMSmith]

see? This is why you shouldnt be taken seriously, at all. Putting the blame on the liberals who did their jobs instead of the people that sat out and the conservatives themselves. She's only a bad candidate top poeple that cant be bothered to have a thought in their head beyond "clinton killed a man" or "why didnt she visit meeeee? She's a big meanie head"

You stretch these things to make them seem ridiculous, but part of running for political office is portraying a desirable image, visiting people to at least make it seem like you give a shit about them, kissing babies, and just generally pandering the shit out of everyone you can. This is part of the game, you can't avoid it, at least not if you want to win. And you can moan and be unhappy about it all you want but people are still people and these are the things that matter to more than enough people to make a difference. Complaining about it is not going to make it stop being a thing.

So, instead, hold accountable the politician who refused to do those things despite how important they felt it was for them to win. Clinton hobbled herself out of hubris, you can't blame people for recognizing that hubris and rejecting it.

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Literally not, but the Bernie-stans are currently seeming to continue their horseshoe bend towards "we're the real victims here!" on a day when millions of women across America lost their bodily autonomy.

Oh, yeah, forgot this. The "Blame Bernie" crowd. It was all Bernie Sanders fault that Clinton lost, had nothing to do with her at all.

[uuuhname]

Literally not, but the Bernie-stans are currently seeming to continue their horseshoe bend towards "we're the real victims here!" on a day when millions of women across America lost their bodily autonomy.

this is just projection on your part. you are the one's that want to pin this on the 2016 lose. I'm over here, saying we need direct political action but YOU are the ones telling me I can only go and vote. you are the ones that insist on operating on this self defeating principal. and then get mad at the people who think this strategy is going nowhere, because it's too raaaaadical.