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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Then they don't have a "good chance of surviving" after all.

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    About 99% of abortions happen in the first 20 weeks. Of the remaining ~1%...most of those were pregancies that the mother had intended to carry to term...but something happened in the later stages of pregnancy that forced the issue.

    The anti-abortion line of callous women murdering babies is fiction.
    I've always found this line of reasoning pretty perplexing--women are too callous to be trusted, so they must become mothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryom View Post
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    This is where you give your real thoughts about women away: "where someone is actively killed for someone's convenience"

    It's a dead giveaway that you've never thought even a tiny bit how pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood actually affect women, beyond your casual contempt for them generally. This is one more reason women's fundamental humanity to determine what happens to their bodies and their lives should never ever be up for a vote, giving people like you a say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryom View Post
    drivel.
    So let's do a hypothetical here. And we're allowed to engage in outlandish hypotheticals because you are already engaging in outlandish and extremely rare hypotheticals as an argument for banning abortions altogether. And I am legitimately curious what your answer would be.

    A baby is born. He is suffering from a rare but easily treatable medical condition that would require daily blood transfusions from the father for a period of 9 months.

    Would you like to show me a court or a legislative body in the United States that you'd think would force a father to do that?

    I can even throw in an extra wrench. What if the father (in disagreement with the mother) claims a strongly held religious belief that would prohibit him from donating blood?

    1. Explain to me how is this scenario different from forcing a mother to carry a pregnancy to term (beyond it being much less risky for the donor).

    2. Explain to me what legal principles would you apply to denying the father both his bodily autonomy and his religious freedoms.

    But when you do that please take into account other considerations such as what would be the legal consequences of all this on general bodily autonomy rights, religious freedoms and greater parental rights (such as parents whom refuse vaccinations or medical treatments and blood transfusions).

    Give it a shot. I'm curious.

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    Presented without context, for anyone who thinks the 'Brood mares' stuff is just hyperbole.

    Conservative Supreme Court Justice Barrett, wrote a brief about abortion. She noted the USA needed a “domestic supply of infants” to meet needs of parents seeking infants to adopt. She argued that mothers must birth their baby & give it up for adoption to meet market demands.

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    “domestic supply of infants”
    "market demands"

    wat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    “domestic supply of infants”
    "market demands"

    wat.
    One more time. Conservatives look at the Handmaid's Tale Gilead for inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    “domestic supply of infants”
    "market demands"

    wat.
    But remember when Project Veritas made up bullshit about how Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts....

    ...now we have a SCOTUS judge literally wanting women to birth children for sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    “domestic supply of infants”
    "market demands"

    wat.
    I'm going to say something, it is going to be disgusting, even thinking about it is bothering me in a bad way. I'll say we start with Barrett, since she is so concerned about it. She lets herself get strapped down, fucked by guys and pump out infants nonstop like a machine. No downtime since she claims market forces demand it.


    Infracted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    I'm going to say something, it is going to be disgusting, even thinking about it is bothering me in a bad way. I'll say we start with Barrett, since she is so concerned about it. She lets herself get strapped down, fucked by guys and pump out infants nonstop like a machine. No downtime since she claims market forces demand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    One more time. Conservatives look at the Handmaid's Tale Gilead for inspiration.
    Who could possibly argue that this isn't the case. The entire party is just morally bankrupt, they have nothing but oppression and culture wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    But remember when Project Veritas made up bullshit about how Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts....

    ...now we have a SCOTUS judge literally wanting women to birth children for sale.
    I guess everything just ties back to the right wing projecting their own thoughts/reality onto everyone else, because everything they've accused others of, it always comes back they support such things.

    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    I'm going to say something, it is going to be disgusting, even thinking about it is bothering me in a bad way. I'll say we start with Barrett, since she is so concerned about it. She lets herself get strapped down, fucked by guys and pump out infants nonstop like a machine. No downtime since she claims market forces demand it.
    It'll probably get you an infraction in some way, but that is pretty much the image such language conjures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Coming soon: Axlotl tanks.
    Then the next generation: Daemonculaba.
    We could bring back all the atreideis
    The hammer comes down:
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Who could possibly argue that this isn't the case. The entire party is just morally bankrupt, they have nothing but oppression and culture wars.


    I guess everything just ties back to the right wing projecting their own thoughts/reality onto everyone else, because everything they've accused others of, it always comes back they support such things.


    It'll probably get you an infraction in some way, but that is pretty much the image such language conjures.
    If I get infracted, so be it. Unless a person is the first in line to sign up for something they want to promote others doing, they don't need to say "We need to be doing X thing." Either walk the walk or shut up about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    she claims market forces demand it.
    You misunderstand. None of this applies to her. She's a rich, white, god fearing woman. She could always just fly to a clinic in Canada or Europe.

    No no. This only applies to those lowly unwomen poors, libs, PoCs, feminists, apostates etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    You misunderstand. None of this applies to her. She's a rich, white, god fearing woman. She could always just fly to a clinic in Canada or Europe.

    No no. This only applies to those lowly unwomen poors, libs, PoCs, feminists, apostates etc.
    You know, every time a rich person says something that only affects the poors, I think back to Marie Antoinette and what must have been going through her mind as she was attached the guillotine.

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    There's also the subtext there... when she says "domestic" what she really means is "white".
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splenda View Post
    Here's something I don't understand.

    Is someone who is "pro life" going to agree that allowing an abortion for an entopic pregnancy is okay? The fetus is not viable and the mother WILL die.

    Yeah cool? So murdering an "unborn" is okay in this case.

    If you say not even then, you are condemning a woman to death- the fetus is dead either way.
    To continue on that: the woman is condemned to death, so what of the father? Certainly he must also be arrested and executed for the murder of a "baby" they made.

    Or, what? The men have no consequence in any of it?
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    To continue on that: the woman is condemned to death, so what of the father? Certainly he must also be arrested and executed for the murder of a "baby" they made.

    Or, what? The men have no consequence in any of it?
    Nope. The whole thing behind anti-abortion is the punishment of the woman. If she didn't want the pregnancy she should not have had sex. By accepting the offer of intercourse it immediately relieves the men of all responsibilities...or some other bullshit they keep making up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    You misunderstand. None of this applies to her. She's a rich, white, god fearing woman. She could always just fly to a clinic in Canada or Europe.

    No no. This only applies to those lowly unwomen poors, libs, PoCs, feminists, apostates etc.
    She’s old enough to be in menopause. She’s not even worried about getting pregnant anymore.
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    Clarence Thomas is crying about the courts getting bullied now.
    The hammer comes down:
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Clarence Thomas is crying about the courts getting bullied now.
    Why are you mad at us? We're just plotting to take away your human rights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    Clarence Thomas is crying about the courts getting bullied now.
    Wasn't his wife for bullying Congress to keep Trump in office? "Rules for thee" and all that.

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