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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Viability has always been the definition of where the line is. The vast majority of people dont approve of past 20 weeks except for risk of mother's life anyway.
    gonna need a source on that "vast majority"

    Cuz my source says different:

    https://www.plannedparenthoodaction....n/20-week-bans

    20-week abortion bans are also highly unpopular throughout the country. 61% of all voters say abortion should be legal after 20 weeks.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    but unborn babies are golden idols that must be protected for some reason.
    Only until they're born, though. Then they tend not to give a shit.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    And what happens to these girls/women when they leave their anti-abortion states to get an abortion where it’s legal? Are they imprisoned when they return?
    I mean, it's hard to say what will happen in all cases... but there are definitely some that would want to see your daughters on trial for first-degree murder.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    gonna need a source on that "vast majority"

    Cuz my source says different:

    https://www.plannedparenthoodaction....n/20-week-bans
    ok, I seem to be wrong, but my question is that because it includes medically necessary, or do poeple actually think its fine to abort a 30 week old fetus?

    because the later is ew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    And what happens to these girls/women when they leave their anti-abortion states to get an abortion where it’s legal? Are they imprisoned when they return?

    I’m honestly sitting here, in fear for my daughters.
    There are multiple laws being discussed in several red states that would punish people with fines and jail-time for leaving the state to get an abortion. Shit is absolutely bonkers, and incredibly anti-democratic.

    As someone in an interracial marriage, I'm not sitting easy tonight.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    ok, I seem to be wrong, but my question is that because it includes medically necessary, or do poeple actually think its fine to abort a 30 week old fetus?

    because the later is ew
    Same Source:

    Nearly 99% of abortions occur before 21 weeks, but when they are needed later in pregnancy, it’s often in very complex circumstances. For example, severe fetal anomalies and serious risks to the pregnant person's health — the kind of situations where patients and their doctors need every medical option available.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    So, anyone rethinking their decision to sit out voting for Clinton because she wasn't "progressive enough" or "had an entitled attitude?"

    Make no mistake, Trump's justices made this possible.

    Always remember what the price of apathy is. It can be very high.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Same Source:
    well its always been legal for medical purposes. I was always refering to willy nilly post 20 week abortions.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Only until they're born, though. Then they tend not to give a shit.
    Half right, they selectively give a shit,
    If the baby is rich and white, it’s sacred.

    If the baby is poor and white, it’s important if it’s pretty otherwise it’s just gods will that they suffer.

    If it’s not white, its gods will and likely better off they were dead because of “insert racist trope here” about their parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    So, anyone rethinking their decision to sit out voting for Clinton because she wasn't "progressive enough" or "had an entitled attitude?"

    Make no mistake, Trump's justices made this possible.

    Always remember what the price of apathy is. It can be very high.
    @UnifiedDivide

    Told ya
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    well its always been legal for medical purposes. I was always refering to willy nilly post 20 week abortions.
    Abortions past 20 weeks are never "Willy-nilly". These are women that planned to have a child and, for whatever reason, need to have an abortion.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    Even more reason for women to leave shithole Red States if they can.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Are these resisters actually contributing to our country and paying their taxes? Or are they freeloading?

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    At what point does the right of the mother supercede the right to life of the baby?
    Mother over unviable baby, any day of the week, twice on sundays. The fetus doesn't get rights til it is born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Abortions past 20 weeks are never "Willy-nilly". These are women that planned to have a child and, for whatever reason, need to have an abortion.
    yes, always for medical reasons. And that si what Im fine with. What I wouldnt be ok with is aborting a 30 week old fetus because your economic status changed, etc.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    yes, always for medical reasons. And that si what Im fine with. What I wouldnt be ok with is aborting a 30 week old fetus because your economic status changed, etc.
    No medical professional performs those types of abortions.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    So 8 months and 3 weeks is fine to abort? Not a real baby?
    There isn't any abortions at that point, ANYWHERE.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    yes, always for medical reasons. And that si what Im fine with. What I wouldnt be ok with is aborting a 30 week old fetus because your economic status changed, etc.
    Not your fetus, not your decision.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    I have no words for the state of the US right now.

    I'm glad I left, and am now happily living in a real democracy.

    But seriously, Dems need to get their shit together, and fast.
    Fundamental civil rights are only "political" if you're trying to take them away from people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Not your fetus, not your decision.
    sorry, but that's gross.

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    So now that bodily autonomy is all but gone -- at what point can we start expecting forced blood, tissue, and organ donations? The whole concept behind Roe was that you couldn't force one person to keep another alive.
    “You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    No medical professional performs those types of abortions.
    yeah, I know that. Guy linked me a poll saying 60% of poeple want post 20 week abortion legalized and I wanted to know why that would be, because the mere fact post 20 weeks is only performed for medical reasons certainly implies most people think of post 20 weeks as a baby already

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