SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Varx]

Then why are you trying to give the fetus rights above and beyond what grown adults have, exactly?



It's almost as if termination of a pregnancy after 6 months is called an 'induced birth' or something since the fetus is generally viable with modern medical care.



Why are 'extreme exceptions' okay with you?

Dude there are legit ABORTIONS who am to kill the damn baby. Just stop it ffs. It's evil man plain and simple.

[gondrin]

No you don't....

Once a sperm and egg meet, you have a complete unique DNA code.

A code that will determine eye color, hair color, height, and personality to am extent and everything else about them for their entire life.

That happens the moment an egg and sperm meet. Don't try to twist that up.

You still haven't answered the question I asked. You stated that abortion is unnatural. I stated that nature sure does abort fetuses all the time either through miscarriages or stillbirths due to various means, most of them natural. I asked you to prove it isn't natural. Still waiting on that answer.

[Varx]

K.

So what?

"So what"

Look human life may not have any meaning to you but that's a you problem that's going to lead you to a very dark place.

[Elegiac]

Dude there are legit ABORTIONS who am to kill the damn baby.

K, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about abortion as conducted in a regulated medical context.

Just stop it ffs. It's evil man plain and simple.

And yet you have a really hard time verbalizing exactly why 'it's evil' despite it being plain and simple.

It's almost as if your position is based on bullshit moralizing rather than a cogent ethical or legal argument. Imagine that.

[gondrin]

God's will.

Ok, not to bring a forbidden topic into this conversation, they would have to prove said being exists in the natural world before claiming that to be a thing.

[Nurasu]

"So what"

Look human life may not have any meaning to you but that's a you problem that's going to lead you to a very dark place.

It's hardly human. We can create complete genetic sequences in a petri dish.

[Elegiac]

"So what"

Look human life may not have any meaning to you

Human life has plenty of meaning to me.

That's why I'm so concerned about humans being stripped of their bodily autonomy by being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term just to satisfy a bunch of slack jawed shitheads in the South.

[Varx]

You still haven't answered the question I asked. You stated that abortion is unnatural. I stated that nature sure does abort fetuses all the time either through miscarriages or stillbirths due to various means, most of them natural. I asked you to prove it isn't natural. Still waiting on that answer.

You seriously comparing a miscarriage to a fucking abortion.

Miss carriage happen for many reasons. Baby the baby wasn't developing properly so the fetus dies.

An abortion happen because Pamela fucker her BF with out a condom because it doesn't feel the same.

Ffs

[Malkiah]

Human life has plenty of meaning to me.

That's why I'm so concerned about humans being stripped of their bodily autonomy by being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term just to satisfy a bunch of slack jawed shitheads in the South.

yes but you care about the *quality* of human life.

forced birthers only care about human existence, in maximum numbers, regardless of the circumstances or context.

[Varx]

Human life has plenty of meaning to me.

That's why I'm so concerned about humans being stripped of their bodily autonomy by being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term just to satisfy a bunch of slack jawed shitheads in the South.

You say that but then are okay with the killing of a 3 month old. You have no idea what your talking about.

[Elegiac]

You seriously comparing a miscarriage to a fucking abortion.

Miss carriage happen for many reasons. Baby the baby wasn't developing properly so the fetus dies.

An abortion happen because Pamela fucker her BF with out a condom because it doesn't feel the same.

"Feel" being the operative word.

Got news for your, sweetheart, "feels" don't entitle you to dictate someone's healthcare.

[Darththeo]

Human life has plenty of meaning to me.

That's why I'm so concerned about humans being stripped of their bodily autonomy by being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term just to satisfy a bunch of slack jawed shitheads in the South.

I don't think Varx can understand that most pro-choice people don't like abortion, but rather that they dislike the alternative more.

[gondrin]

You seriously comparing a miscarriage to a fucking abortion.

Miss carriage happen for many reasons. Baby the baby wasn't developing properly so the fetus dies.

An abortion happen because Pamela fucker her BF with out a condom because it doesn't feel the same.

Ffs

You stated that abortions weren't natural. Miscarriages and stillbirths are natural abortions of a fetus. NATURAL ABORTIONS. Abortion is nothing more then the removal of a fetus from a womb, sometimes at the cost of the life of the fetus.

[Darththeo]

You seriously comparing a miscarriage to a fucking abortion.

Miss carriage happen for many reasons. Baby the baby wasn't developing properly so the fetus dies.

An abortion happen because Pamela fucker her BF with out a condom because it doesn't feel the same.

Ffs

Miscarriage aka spontaneous abortions.

It is like comparing being cut by a knife to being cut by teeth/claws of a predator.

[Varx]

It's hardly human. We can create complete genetic sequences in a petri dish.

Not of a fucking human being... You can't just create a complete unique human DNA strand.

[Elegiac]

You may that bet then are okay with the killing of a 3 month old. You have no idea what your talking about.

I've elaborated my position multiple times both from an ethical and a medical standpoint.

All you've done is repeatedly insisted its evil because feels and that you don't hate women because your wife also suffers from internalized misogyny.

So tell me, Will, who exactly doesn't know what they're talking about?

[Darththeo]

You stated that abortions weren't natural. Miscarriages and stillbirths are natural abortions of a fetus. NATURAL ABORTIONS. Abortion is nothing more then the removal of a fetus from a womb, sometimes at the cost of the life of the fetus.

The medical term for a miscarriage is literally spontaneous abortion

[Mayhem]

If you mean that if her life is in danger, then no I don't agree on a red ruling that would dictate that.

Every birth puts the woman in danger. 750 women died due to maternal causes in the US in 2019. So you are fine with women risking their lives against their will.

[Edge-]

Once a sperm and egg meet, you have a complete unique DNA code.

That is not a baby. You still don't understand basic biology. Which seems to be a point of pride for Republicans.

Do I need to bring up the times that "pro-life" folks thought a dolphin fetus was a human baby?

[Nurasu]

I don't think Varx can understand that most pro-choice people don't like abortion, but rather that they dislike the alternative more.

I would not go straight to most.