SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Captain N]

Luckily I adapted to being an Edgelord in real-life as well I guess.

Admitting you're an angry incel isn't the flex you think it is.

[Super Kami Dende]

You going to help feed them, clothed them, educated them? I doubt it.

Tbf if your stance is "if you can't feed/cloth/educate them, we might as well just kill them" that's pretty bad all on it's own.

Admitting you're an angry incel isn't the flex you think it is.

Who's angry here lmao?

[Darththeo]

Nope States like Texas have made that illegal, so all it takes is for informants to prove a woman had an abortion anywhere out of Texas and she will be arrested and charged with murder.

Which is a violation of the Constitution in more ways than one, but I guess they'll justify it by the fugitive slave laws.

[Mekh]

????????

I wonder how politics work in countries where people don't feel like the person they are voting for has to have passed within 20 miles of them at some point, to be worthy of consideration.

[Darththeo]

Tbf if your stance is "if you can't feed/cloth/educate them, we might as well just kill them" that's pretty bad all on it's own.

Why is it bad when if they can't get the support they need, they aren't living a decent life anyway.
I would not want to be alive if my parents didn't want me.

[Crissi]

Tbf if your stance is "if you can't feed/cloth/educate them, we might as well just kill them" that's pretty bad all on it's own.

I mean, without being fed / clothed / educated, they'll likely die anyway. Just...outside the womb. Or end up in jail.

[Winter Blossom]

President Biden delivers remarks on the Supreme Court decision on Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization to overturn Roe v. Wade.

[Fugus]

Only through the mail system. They can still outlaw the drug within their state so if someone is caught with it, they can charge them

And you can best believe every drug dealer in that state will start selling it and bringing it from other states and they will have stores opening up on their states borders selling it.

[Ghost of Cow]

this is just projection on your part. you are the one's that want to pin this on the 2016 lose.

Um, that's exactly where the fault for this lies.

I don't know when people are going to get it through their heads that presidential elections have enormous consequences. That it's NOT the time to play stupid games with "sending a message" or other nonsense.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I just fundamentally don't understand the whole "B-b-b-b-but Hillary didn't suck me off enough personally so I didn't vote for her."

I fully recognize I'm about 2000% a pragmatic voter and idealistic voters exist, but I just don't understand the people who think we can afford idealism when so much is at stake. Just don't get it.

LOL exactly because a candidate can hold their fucking hand or capitulate and lie to them about their own individual issues or else.


As for those you mentioned who can afford idealism, those are the stupid and uneducated. Stupid if they knew better but went against that knowledge to help Trump. The uneducated who obviously didn't care beyond a single issue.


The Stupid were the celebrities. Like Kanye West

[uuuhname]

This ruling? Absolutely. This ruling is the consequence of the 2016 election, and we knew this was a serious risk heading into the election. Which is why a great many of us put our personal feelings about the Democratic candidate aside and voted for the "less bad" of the two options who wasn't going to cause immeasurable harm during, and after her administration.

Though Bernie-stans shoulder a minority of the blame. It's 99% on Republicans, we're just point out that Bernie-stans who refused to vote for Hillary because she hurt their fee fees are a part of that problem.

Bernie bros went out and voted for Hillary for the most part... like what the fuck is wrong with you people? you really cannot even for one second bring yourself to criticize the person who lost to Trump. and then you project this same literal cult like mentality onto other people by accusing them of being brain dead "Bernie-bros", how you cannot see this irony is baffling to me.

[Super Kami Dende]

I mean, without being fed / clothed / educated, they'll likely die anyway. Just...outside the womb. Or end up in jail.

Good to know your stance is "Death to the Poor."

[Doctor Amadeus]

Which is a violation of the Constitution in more ways than one, but I guess they'll justify it by the fugitive slave laws.

Yeah they are also talking about succeeding from the union too which is also problematic, doesn't mean they aren't going to do it.

As to slavery, I am sure they will do that too, already a School board in Tennessee includes individuals who advocate for suggesting slavery was a GOOD thing.

[Crissi]

Good to know your stance is "Death to the Poor."

I live in Texas. Thats the state's government's position, not mine. Literally cutting all welfare possible just to fund the border mission.

Also, i imagine death in the womb is better than being abused in the foster care system.

[uuuhname]

I wonder how politics work in countries where people don't feel like the person they are voting for has to have passed within 20 miles of them at some point, to be worthy of consideration.

take it up with those voters... holy fuck that's the point I was making... actually bother to listen to them instead of telling them this is your god now, go vote for her.

[Darththeo]

Good to know your stance is "Death to the Poor."

No, that's your stance is you don't help them.

[Edge-]

Bernie bros went out and voted for Hillary for the most part... like what the fuck is wrong with you people? you really cannot even for one second bring yourself to criticize the person to lost to Trump.

We can and do. She was unlikable and ran a bad campaign, but was absolutely the most qualified candidate in history and would have ensured that a moderate, at least, Justice was nominated to the SCOTUS. Literally none of us are shy about our criticisms of her and her campaign, and I'm not sure why you keep saying we aren't talking about it.

and then you project this same literal cult like mentality onto other people by accusing them of being brain dead "Bernie-bros", how you cannot see this irony is baffling to me.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/54581...p-survey-finds

12% of Sanders voters went for Trump, for some insane, nonsensical reason.

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Good to know your stance is "Death to the Poor."

That's literally a Republican policy position, my guy.

[uuuhname]

I mean, again that's you avoiding any responsibility at all.

for what? explain this to me, what fucking responsibility am I supposed to have to you people besides going out to vote? cool, I did that by the way, in a blue state, where Hillary won...

but no lets take 5 steps further and call me a conservative who was so butthurt over a girl boss stomping on my nuts epically that I got so salty I went out and voted for her anyway....

[Malkiah]

I mean, this ruling is directly a result of one election 6 years ago.

maybe this ruling happening *right now* is, but that's a coincidence of events happening at the right time within a span of a couple years.
long term, this ruling was going to happen sooner or later, or a republican majority was going to hit and they were going to pass something which accomplished the same thing.

yes, a republican being president over a 4 year period where republicans were also controlling governmental minutia that happened at the same time that 4 supreme justices were replaced is the cocktail that allowed this particular ruling to happen in mid 2022, but the overall agenda of getting something judicial or legislative done to dismantle abortion access in the US has been in the works for 40 years.

this was going to inevitably happen no matter what because the dems are still operating on their core governmental principle of being a staid conservative body that is primarily interested in maintaining a status quo of a pro-corporate predatory capitalistic social order, with minor concessions being wrung out of them occasionally to placate the populace into accepting the state of things.

and that's fine in the grand scheme of things, a political party being stodgy and just wanting the ball to keep rolling along as it has been isn't inherently a bad thing in a country where everything more or less works for most people, but it becomes a huge problem when the only other political party is a culture flame war with legislative powers acting on wantonly degenerate instincts to try to destroy the concept of human civilization as we know it.

[Zinstorm]

Honestly... why can't we blame both? I keep seeing some people place the majority of the blame on Hillary and others placing it on the voters alone.

These factors didn't happen in a vacuum... both could (and imo are) be factors as to how the 2016 election turned out. Honestly arguing about who was more to blame for the 2016 election just seems pointless as taking steps to better inform the public and fighting for better representatives is something we can (and should) be doing right now to have a better future for our nation.