1. #2281
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    Tbf if your stance is "if you can't feed/cloth/educate them, we might as well just kill them" that's pretty bad all on it's own.
    you realize that by not being able to afford to feed, clothe and educate them can lead to a huge increase in them dying right?

    So yah, are republicans going to approve a huge increase in welfare and childcare benefits now?
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    take it up with those voters... holy fuck that's the point I was making... actually bother to listen to them instead of telling them this is your god now, go vote for her.
    Nah, I enjoy traitors being tagged with this shit once they realize their selfish actions now led them to Trumpeters who used them to try to stamp their very existence.

    These people knew better, but rather then doing the smart thing wanted to be concerned with making friends with people that fucking hate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    take it up with those voters... holy fuck that's the point I was making... actually bother to listen to them instead of telling them this is your god now, go vote for her.
    Party platforms are online. People can read. If anyone needs a weird rally, which traditionally never include additional information, to make their decision, they probably have no business making political or any decision for themselves.
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  4. #2284
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    for what? explain this to me, what fucking responsibility am I supposed to have to you people besides going out to vote? cool, I did that by the way, in a blue state, where Hillary won...
    vote harder, donate more money!

    dunno why u are talkin bout hilary, 2000 election + citizens united more influential.

  5. #2285
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    Party platforms are online. People can read. If anyone needs a weird rally, which traditionally never include additional information, to make their decision, they probably have no business making political or any decision for themselves.
    you are describing someone whom I was just describing... uuuuuugh

  6. #2286
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    Bernie bros went out and voted for Hillary for the most part... like what the fuck is wrong with you people? you really cannot even for one second bring yourself to criticize the person who lost to Trump. and then you project this same literal cult like mentality onto other people by accusing them of being brain dead "Bernie-bros", how you cannot see this irony is baffling to me.
    Yep. I have been on board with Bernie because of his policy positions for a long time now. He's been my preferred candidate in both of the last elections. And yet, despite the fact that he was hobbled both times by the DNC establishment, I still voted for their preferred candidate. And still, we get this shit from them.

    I just don't get how a policy of insulting and attempting to shame the people you want to help you out could possibly work?

  7. #2287
    Quote Originally Posted by VMSmith View Post
    I still voted for their preferred candidate.
    I'm not sure why y'all are getting upset then since the criticism are directed at the Bernie-stans that voted for Trump, not those that sucked it up like the rest of us and voted for the candidate who wouldn't risk peoples rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    As for those you mentioned who can afford idealism, those are the stupid and uneducated.
    I don't think that's fair. They are idealists -- that doesn't make them inherently stupid or uneducated. It just makes them...I dunno...willing to lose everything if they can't get everything?

    As I said I recognize I'm not this mindset at all so it's hard for me to understand but I don't think it's fair to call they all stupid and uneducated. Just...idealist.

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    long term, this ruling was going to happen sooner or later
    Nope. SCOTUS appointments are for life. We could have locked the SCOTUS up for 20-40 years with the right picks. You really think 30 years from now we're going to be debating abortion like we do today? Or that gay rights would be back on the chopping block in 30 years? C'mon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I don't think that's fair. They are idealists -- that doesn't make them inherently stupid or uneducated. It just makes them...I dunno...willing to lose everything if they can't get everything?

    As I said I recognize I'm not this mindset at all so it's hard for me to understand but I don't think it's fair to call they all stupid and uneducated. Just...idealist.
    Idealism isn't stupid, as I said Knowing something to be wrong and going with it anyways, that is stupid, regardless to how it makes anyone feel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VMSmith View Post
    Yep. I have been on board with Bernie because of his policy positions for a long time now. He's been my preferred candidate in both of the last elections. And yet, despite the fact that he was hobbled both times by the DNC establishment, I still voted for their preferred candidate. And still, we get this shit from them.

    I just don't get how a policy of insulting and attempting to shame the people you want to help you out could possibly work?
    zero problems with progresisves / bernie fans thta ended up voting for Hillary. The problem children are those that sat out / voted form someone else knowing how our election system works.

    Like if say, AOC was nominated Id be disappointed, but Id still vote for her, cause I know the republican alternative is worse.

  11. #2291
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm not sure why y'all are getting upset then since the criticism are directed at the Bernie-stans that voted for Trump, not those that sucked it up like the rest of us and voted for the candidate who wouldn't risk peoples rights.
    you mean all 5 of them... you mean the group of people so small it really didn't make any difference at all, and it COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE THE CASE that those people were not part of a hivemind like you seem to think they are....

  12. #2292
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    You really think 30 years from now we're going to be debating abortion like we do today?
    absolutely, yes. we were debating abortion like we do today 40 years ago and the debate has never ceased, it's not like evangelicals are going to just stop existing in the next 30 years.

    Or that gay rights would be back on the chopping block in 30 years? C'mon.
    oh god absolutely they are - the opinion given by thomas on this ruling said that they should (would) reconsider the precedent on rulings they protect being gay from being illegal, so in the next 30 years there will absolutely be efforts to return to making homosexuality a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    zero problems with progresisves / bernie fans thta ended up voting for Hillary. The problem children are those that sat out / voted form someone else knowing how our election system works.

    Like if say, AOC was nominated Id be disappointed, but Id still vote for her, cause I know the republican alternative is worse.
    Having to wait for generational change is exhausting. We can slow the damage in the meantime, but I don't really blame anyone at the end of the day for not buying into that.

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    Here is the hard charging Dems!








    Always passively fighting for us and not doing shit. I'm talking about this is a weak as you can look people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Kami Dende View Post
    Tbf if your stance is "if you can't feed/cloth/educate them, we might as well just kill them" that's pretty bad all on it's own.

    Republicans: if people are too poor to raise a child they shouldn't have children
    poor people: I am too poor to raise a child and need an abortion
    Republicans: wtf? no you have to raise the child or go to prison
    poor people: ok so you help me raise the child by increasing the minimum wage to livable wages?
    Republicans: wtf? no


    Tell me what exactly are poor people supposed to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Here is the hard charging Dems!








    Always passively fighting for us and not doing shit. I'm talking about this is a weak as you can look people.
    your votes hard at work, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurasu View Post
    Having to wait for generational change is exhausting. We can slow the damage in the meantime, but I don't really blame anyone at the end of the day for not buying into that.
    Accelerationism hasnt historically worked out well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm not sure why y'all are getting upset then since the criticism are directed at the Bernie-stans that voted for Trump, not those that sucked it up like the rest of us and voted for the candidate who wouldn't risk peoples rights.
    Because reading is hard and Twitter wired brains into the Pancakes vs Waffles meme.
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  19. #2299
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    you mean all 5 of them...
    Here's the link again - https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/54581...p-survey-finds

    12% of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post

    Republicans: if people are too poor to raise a child they shouldn't have children
    poor people: I am too poor to raise a child and need an abortion
    Republicans: wtf? no you have to raise the child or go to prison
    poor people: ok so you help me raise the child by increasing the minimum wage to livable wages?
    Republicans: wtf? no


    Tell me what exactly are poor people supposed to do?
    They are supposed to fail and perish... or at least they are supposed to be someone else's problem.

    That is the mindset of the majority of them... they do not care and if they fall that's less of "them" in our great society. It's a fairly selfish mindset.

    This world would be a better place if we had less people with this mindset sadly.
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