SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Chonogo]

I do not see political parties the same way as I do my favorite football team. It's never as simple as that. There are just as much rot inside the Democratic party as the Republican party.

Which is why building on common ground is of utmost importance for the unity of this country.

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Do you disagree with my statements? I'm sure we can find at least a few common points to build upon

You're not even American, and you think you have some special insight into the American people?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post46671292

I'm not American.

[tikcol]

No, America was founded on slavery and bitching about tax allocations.

Stop pushing propaganda, dude.

I do not deny those were problems but they were overcome. I do love America more than any other country in this world. For this reason, I insist on the right to criticize it.

So should everyone and it's not my intention to make it seem like you shouldn't.

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You're not even American, and you think you have some special insight into the American people?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post46671292

I live here now and I am a citizen.

[UnifiedDivide]

And now we have James Baldwin. Seriously, just stop engaging.

[Fugus]

He's pushing Truman, ffs. Can we stop taking him as though he's a serious poster yet?

Dude, since when has that ever happened on here? I am quite literally known for telling people that to be ignored as they continued to feed them.

I mean I outright started trolling myself overtly and told them how to handle it and still got 2 pages.

You can troll here forever and so long as you aren’t overt to the point of outright admitting it and also giving them a flashlight and a map to handle the interaction they will continue.

[UnifiedDivide]

Abortion pills in demand after reversal of Roe vs Wade

I'm sure news of this being deemed illegal will happen at some point, too.

[Smitzelplix]

Clarence Thomas signals SCOTUS may revisit media libel precedent

I wonder why.

Clarence Thomas wants to do anything he can to hurt the left because he says they made him feel miserable during his confirmation hearing. Meanwhile certain people believe we need to find common ground. How do you find common ground with someone whose solely fueled by vengeance and out to make the lives of millions of people miserable?

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas told his law clerks in the '90s that he wanted to serve for 43 years to make liberals' lives 'miserable'

[Chonogo]

And now we have James Baldwin. Seriously, just stop engaging.

Sometimes it's worth engaging if only to get them to drop their act and admit to something they're trolling about.

[Fugus]

Abortion pills in demand after reversal of Roe vs Wade

I'm sure news of this being deemed illegal will happen at some point, too.

I expect every drug dealer in those areas to have them in stock pretty quickly.

[tikcol]

If you don't like abortion fine that's you, don't force your believes and religion on others period. Our system is completely broke when over 70% of the country supports something like Pro-Choice and yet get ignored because some assholes in power that we didn't vote for decided it was not legal anymore.

I have to disagree with this take. The SCOTUS did not, in fact, decide abortion wasn't legal anymore. Though less federal laws defending it is a concern, I'm sure the States will come with viable solutions to this lack of regulation. Hopefully regulation that doesn't ban it.

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Abortion pills in demand after reversal of Roe vs Wade

I'm sure news of this being deemed illegal will happen at some point, too.

Hopefully not. I can't imagine a sane legal argument that could ever put it into question.

[UnifiedDivide]

Clarence Thomas wants to do anything he can to hurt the left because he says they made him feel miserable during his confirmation hearing. Meanwhile certain people believe we need to find common ground. How do you find common ground with someone whose solely fueled by vengeance and out to make the lives of millions of people miserable?

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas told his law clerks in the '90s that he wanted to serve for 43 years to make liberals' lives 'miserable'

So he's a petty, whiny bitch to the point of almost being Trump? Neat.

Sometimes it's worth engaging if only to get them to drop their act and admit to something they're trolling about.

I'm prone to engage now and then myself, but I don't know if I'd ever say it was worth it lol

I expect every drug dealer in those areas to have them in stock pretty quickly.

Easiest money they'll make in their dealing careers with the rate things are going.

[Kaleredar]

I have to disagree with this take. The SCOTUS did not, in fact, decide abortion wasn't legal anymore. Though less federal laws defending it is a concern, I'm sure the States will come with viable solutions to this lack of regulation. Hopefully regulation that doesn't ban it.

Their entire Intent in removing the federal protection was so that states could outlaw it.

These evangelical judges aren’t doing things without knowing what it will result in. They’re doing it to exact a specific effect; in this case, outlawing abortion because doing so comports with their religious beliefs.

You can’t honestly argue “sure the judges are from a religiously motivated party, sure they overturned abortion protection, and sure that means that some states who are also religiously motivated will outlaw it, but that doesn’t mean that the judges meant for that to happen all along!”

Though one could certainly dishonestly argue it.

[Fugus]

Easiest money they'll make in their dealing careers with the rate things are going.

I don’t smoke or anything but I would happily contribute to the cause.

Edit: just have to be careful which family member I let know because I know at least one that has no problem selling coke and other stuff and no problem with thieves and stuff like that so long as they aren’t taking from him but would get all high and mighty on this.

[Miffinat0r]

Their entire Intent in removing the federal protection was so that states could outlaw it.

These evangelical judges aren’t doing things without knowing what it will result in. They’re doing it to exact a specific effect; in this case, outlawing abortion because doing so comports with their religious beliefs.

You can’t honestly argue “sure the judges are from a religiously motivated party, sure they overturned abortion protection, and sure that means that some states who are also religiously motivated will outlaw it, but that doesn’t mean that the judges meant for that to happen all along!”

Though one could certainly dishonestly argue it.

This entire logic of originalism falls hard when it's confronted with the history of Slavery and Jim Crow in the US. Originalism allowed for that, even Barry Goldwater in the 50's espoused that, but later on he realized that Originalism isn't without it's flaws.

The ability of individual states to deprive people of liberty is allowed under originalism.

[Specialka]

America was not built on fear. America was built on courage, on imagination and an unbeatable determination to do the job at hand.

The progress that was made attests to that. Being proud of that fact shouldn't be indication of anything else besides how you're proud that your country created someone such as yourself.

Being proud of America is being proud of yourself.

Except the USA are kinda a shitty place to live with, you know, all the crazy and all the guns.

[Miffinat0r]

Except the USA are kinda a shitty place to live with, you know, all the crazy and all the guns.

Preaching to the choir. Currently working through my career, and if I can save up I'll retire in another country outside of the US. If I hit the lottery, ya, I'm retiring immediately and filing for NZ, IR, and CA citizenship for some retirement visa.

Way more civil society in those countries, and freedom of expression isn't as brutal as the US is.

[cubby]

Are you sure @Blur4stuff was being pessimistic? Perhaps their post was meant to say that this is going to make the Republicans not be able to get the House back.

Edit: I found one of their previous posts, you took their post the wrong way.

No...I thought Bluff was being optimistic. I was disagreeing with their post - I do not think this will galvanize the Democrats, and if it does, it won't be enough. I think the GQP smells blood in the water, and can see the fruits of their decades long labor paying off, and they will double down to keep winning.

If we were going to see a YUGE influx of voters coming out of the woodwork, that would have happened in the 2020 election, voting down ticket.

I think, will all due respect, perhaps my point wasn't clear to you. I could be missing something though - just shout.

[Specialka]

Preaching to the choir. Currently working through my career, and if I can save up I'll retire in another country outside of the US. If I hit the lottery, ya, I'm retiring immediately and filing for NZ, IR, and CA citizenship for some retirement visa.

Way more civil society in those countries, and freedom of expression isn't as brutal as the US is.

20 ago, the USA were shown as an exemple to follow in my country. Today, they are the exemple of what not to do, be it progressism or conservatism. You go too far, too deep, too fast.

[Edge-]

20 ago, the USA were shown as an exemple to follow in my country. Today, they are the exemple of what not to do, be it progressism or conservatism. You go too far, too deep, too fast.

I mean...the country banning burkini's isn't exactly out there as the shining beacon of liberal democracy either. Especially with the latest election.

Far-right nutters (who aren't even responsible for the ban mentioned) are a problem everywhere. This isn't to say that we're not a shitshow - we absolutely are - but maybe don't throw stones from glass houses : P

[Specialka]

I mean...the country banning burkini's isn't exactly out there as the shining beacon of liberal democracy either. Especially with the latest election.

Far-right nutters (who aren't even responsible for the ban mentioned) are a problem everywhere. This isn't to say that we're not a shitshow - we absolutely are - but maybe don't throw stones from glass houses : P

Little derail. Burkini has no place in a pool or even a beach as long as they are public in Europe. Period.

[Edge-]

Little derail. Burkini has no place in a pool or even a beach as long as they are public in Europe. Period.

I'm of another opinion - people can wear whatever the fuck they want as long as it conforms to the basic standards of decency (i.e. covers the naughty bits).

Because as with abortion, I think women can and should choose what happens with their bodies, including what they wear.