SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[CastletonSnob]

Men's rights activists think that the world is biased towards women, or that it's "a woman's world".

These people really DO live in a different universe. I have to wonder what color the sky is on their planet.

[Kathandira]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna45629

Remember the lady in TX that got a ticket for driving in the carpool lane while pregnant? Well, that ticket was dismissed apparently.

And she's been cited again. Gonna be interesting to see what happens on this, this remains a whole new area of law to be explored.

Worth noting she's now given birth so this likely won't happen again. At least unless she gets pregnant and decides to continue using the carpool lane while driving by herself.

"Mom, what made you decide to have 7 children?"

"Justice..."

[Edge-]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/racis...b046aa022b5a6c

Minnesota Republican Rep. Tom Emmer managed Sunday to alienate a vast swath of humanity with a jaw-dropping attack, calling abortion rights “Chinese genocide.”

Uh...what? Is this just an excuse for some casual xenophobia or something? Anyways, let's dig deeper into his thoughts.

Emmer falsely claimed the bill would have “allowed abortion up to moments before a child takes its first breath.”

This is not accurate. We all know this, but it's just worth highlighting once more that Republican extremism relies on these dishonest lies.

It’s unclear what Emmer meant by “Chinese genocide”

Preach, HuffPo, because I'm still confused as fuck. There's arguably genocide going on in China, but that's with the Uyghur people and has nothing to do with the US House or Senate.

He added: “If Democrats want to make abortion the main issue when every poll we have seen says that the economy and the cost of living is the number one issue, good luck to them trying to defend their extreme position.”

I mean...current data shows that girls/women's right to bodily autonomy is a pretty winning topic for Democrats overall. And that the extremist positions of Republicans are pretty damned unpopular, what with many of them scrubbing their historically extremist views from their websites and social media as they enter the general and need to appeal to moderates.

As a reminder -

Deep red Kansas voted overwhelmingly early last month to keep abortion rights in the state constitution. Elsewhere, pro-choice candidates have grabbed unexpected primary wins. Democrat Pat Ryan, a champion of reproductive rights, won a special election for Congress in upstate New York last month that had been fiercely targeted by Republicans.

[s_bushido]

I'm still confused as fuck.

There's a couple things it could be. A reference to that "only one child" thing that China was pretty notorious for a while back. He wanted to say "communist" because everyone knows that communism is Satanic atheism, and everyone knows that Satanic atheists love to kill (and eat) babies...but "Chinese" just slipped out instead.

[Kathandira]

He added: “If Democrats want to make abortion the main issue when every poll we have seen says that the economy and the cost of living is the number one issue, good luck to them trying to defend their extreme position.”

Know what ties directly into economic issues? How many people one is responsible for. Having an unwanted child can easily ruin someone financially. These people are so short sighted.

[gondrin]

Know what ties directly into economic issues? How many people one is responsible for. Having an unwanted child can easily ruin someone financially. These people are so short sighted.

I keep saying those who want to impose forced birth onto people should be forced to pay out of pocket themselves for the care of the mother and child until said child is 18 years of age. Start sending bills to those who want to do that. Figure it wouldn't take long to drain them off all their money.

They need to put their money where their mouth is.

[Draco-Onis]

I keep saying those who want to impose forced birth onto people should be forced to pay out of pocket themselves for the care of the mother and child until said child is 18 years of age. Start sending bills to those who want to do that. Figure it wouldn't take long to drain them off all their money.

They need to put their money where their mouth is.

As George Carlin put it the republican motto is "If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked"

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/06/polit...ons/index.html

SC Republicans remove exceptions for rape and incest from their abortion ban bill.

Just a reminder of how extremist Republican positions continue to be while those campaigning for office this cycle and furiously deleting and trying to pretend that they never publicly supported similar extremist positions.

Also as a reminder, every poll done that I've ever seen on the topic, nationally and at state-levels, shows that this is a deeply unpopular, extremist position. And that even amongst Republicans this kind of extremist position rarely even achieves a plurality of support.

[Bakis]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna45629

Remember the lady in TX that got a ticket for driving in the carpool lane while pregnant? Well, that ticket was dismissed apparently.

And she's been cited again. Gonna be interesting to see what happens on this, this remains a whole new area of law to be explored.

Worth noting she's now given birth so this likely won't happen again. At least unless she gets pregnant and decides to continue using the carpool lane while driving by herself.

That initial case rocked. I laughed so hard and then started to wonder why the lump of cells in her womb was a living person according to only the penal code.

[Twdft]

SC Republicans remove exceptions for rape and incest from their abortion ban bill.

Just a reminder of how extremist Republican positions continue to be

To be honest no exceptions is only logical if you ban abortions. The extremist position is to ban abortions.

[Bakis]

To be honest no exceptions is only logical if you ban abortions. The extremist position is to ban abortions.

Yes, since they can pull it through it make perfect sense. Why bring in exceptions in the mix when it is easier to hold up a total ban.

[cubby]

Michigan's State Supreme Court overturned an abortion ban, which is good news tactically, but bad news strategically.

The next couple of decades will see a hard push by the GQP to stack the state Supreme Courts, and make changes to keep them as permanent and long lasting as possible. Because ultimately the state courts will now be determining state abortion bans, and many of those state supreme court justices are [for some stupid fucking reason] elected.

The GQP will first get as many conservative justices in the door, then change the rules to make them lifetime posts.

That is the future of a majority ruled by a tyrannical minority.

[The Stormbringer]

Michigan's State Supreme Court overturned an abortion ban, which is good news tactically, but bad news strategically.

The next couple of decades will see a hard push by the GQP to stack the state Supreme Courts, and make changes to keep them as permanent and long lasting as possible. Because ultimately the state courts will now be determining state abortion bans, and many of those state supreme court justices are [for some stupid fucking reason] elected.

The GQP will first get as many conservative justices in the door, then change the rules to make them lifetime posts.

That is the future of a majority ruled by a tyrannical minority.

Sounds like people should just do abortions anyway, and cops should refuse to arrest people. Assuming you can get enough cops on your side, that is.

[Ivanstone]

Michigan's State Supreme Court overturned an abortion ban, which is good news tactically, but bad news strategically.

The next couple of decades will see a hard push by the GQP to stack the state Supreme Courts, and make changes to keep them as permanent and long lasting as possible. Because ultimately the state courts will now be determining state abortion bans, and many of those state supreme court justices are [for some stupid fucking reason] elected.

The GQP will first get as many conservative justices in the door, then change the rules to make them lifetime posts.

That is the future of a majority ruled by a tyrannical minority.

Fortunately it’s hard to get donations for judicial elections right?

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Sounds like people should just do abortions anyway, and cops should refuse to arrest people. Assuming you can get enough cops on your side, that is.

What’s the worst that could happen with unregulated abortions?

[Poopymonster]

What’s the worst that could happen with unregulated abortions?

This becomes the top seller on Amazon.

[Edge-]

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-...d1c8214891dd1d

South Carolina senators rejected a ban on almost all abortions Thursday in a special session called in the aftermath of the U.S. Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade.

Although Republicans had a majority of votes to pass the ban, Republican Sen. Tom Davis threatened to filibuster and proponents of the ban could not get the extra votes to stop him.

Davis, the chief of staff for former Gov. Mark Sanford before being elected to the Senate in 2009, was joined by the three Republican women in the Senate, a fifth GOP colleague and all the chamber’s Democrats to oppose the proposed ban.

Davis opposes a blanket ban on abortions in South Carolina and said he would argue against the bill until the 46-member Senate mustered the 26 votes required to end the filibuster. That appeared unlikely to happen, as only after 24 senators voted for an amended bill that included exceptions for pregnancies cause by rape or incest up to 12 weeks after conception. Twenty senators were opposed and two were absent.

After a recess to work through their options, Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey conceded the abortion ban likely couldn’t pass, although a vote to end debate had not been taken.

Damn, the filibuster threat ends up biting Republicans in the ass here in SC. Kudo's to those five Republicans for combating the extremism within their party.

[Ivanstone]

This becomes the top seller on Amazon.

This isn't a desirable outcome.

[The Stormbringer]

Fortunately it’s hard to get donations for judicial elections right?

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What’s the worst that could happen with unregulated abortions?

Obviously I'm not talking about some shitty back-alley abortions, I'm talking about trained professionals being provided with the funds, tools, and materials they need to keep doing their job normally. Just off the books.

[Ripster42]

Obviously I'm not talking about some shitty back-alley abortions, I'm talking about trained professionals being provided with the funds, tools, and materials they need to keep doing their job normally. Just off the books.

So a major criminal conspiracy, for a crime that carries life in prison in some areas for the caregivers but not the patients. The amount of prolife politicians getting caught for pressuring their mistresses to get abortions should clue you in to how dangerous that would be. And that's just the danger to the otherwise ethical physician.

You didn't read the link though. That wasn't a case of back alley abortions. It was somewhat more horrific than that, which resulted from two main things: an unethical doctor and zero regulatory oversite for a period of 15 years. Unregulated medical practice leads to some pretty gruesome outcomes.

[D3thray]

Know what ties directly into economic issues? How many people one is responsible for. Having an unwanted child can easily ruin someone financially. These people are so short sighted.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/...ds-gender.aspx

There has been a pretty big spike in women thinking abortion should be legal under any circumstance during covid. Wonder why… ? /s