You remember anything before you were 4 years old? Having consciousness as a rule is another bullship cope to self justify killing your baby.
That's all I ever read from you guys.
Oh a fetus isn't a baby. They have no consciousness. They're not a human being. Blah blah blah.
These are lies you tell yourselves so you can bare looking at yourselves in the mirror after killing your son or daughter and not seeing a sick twisted monster staring back at you
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No you guys are about baby murder justified because you made shitty decisions one night at the bar. Who's fighting for the baby's autonomy and rights.
Who? Cuz it sure as hell isn't their shitty excuse for a mom.
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Saving the lives of fucking babies is immoral? I feel bad for you guys, I truly do since you've been completely misguided by your parents or w/e college you went to.
1> Yes.
2> Memory retention isn't the same thing, anyway.
You're projecting, a lot. To push a religiofascist attack on women.That's all I ever read from you guys.
Oh a fetus isn't a baby. They have no consciousness. They're not a human being. Blah blah blah.
These are lies you tell yourselves so you can bare looking at yourselves in the mirror after killing your son or daughter and not seeing a sick twisted monster staring back at you
Memory retention is a bug fucking part of being self aware and conscience. People say death is no different than before when you were born or became self aware cuz you can't even remember what it was like, it's just a big void.
And no I'm pushing what I believe is morally right to a bunch of social degenerates who disguise themselves as good people.
The only arguments for fetal personhood are fundamentally and incontrovertibly religious in nature. There's no basis for that argument in secular space, and there's no grounds for forcing your religious views upon non-believers.
Fetal personhood isn't even relevant, since bodily autonomy always takes precedence. Can you be forced to donate blood to save a life? No. Why? Because bodily autonomy trumps right to life. Always. Unless you've got a religion-based antagonism that pushes you to harm women.
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Not even a little bit. People with amnesia or memory retention issues like Alzheimer's don't suddenly become less conscious, sentient people. You have no idea what you're talking about.
What you think is "morally right" is subjugating and harming women. That's the problem.And no I'm pushing what I believe is morally right to a bunch of social degenerates who disguise themselves as good people.
Do I remember being younger than 4 years old? Actually yes, I do and even if I didn't, it would be irrelevant to this as I had developed a consciousness before then. And before that formed, it is no more murder then if I deal with a foot infection as that fetus is nothing but a vaginal infection before that consciousness forms.
You are the one lying to yourself here. Aborting a fetus with no consciousness is no more murder than when my brain dead sister was unplugged off life support last year. If the consciousness isn't there, then you aren't there, then it isn't murder.
Sorry, but both the physical and metaphysical views say you are wrong.
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Ah yes, every woman who has ever pursued an abortion is just a slut and a harlot. Not because they were raped. Not because of health complications that risk their lives. Not because they find out that the developing fetus will have serious health complications and not survive for long after fully developing. Not because their birth control failed and they are in absolutely no position to provide for and raise a child.
They're all just sluts. All of 'em.
Your misogyny is showing.
You can say what you want, idc. You all know it's wrong.
But again, if anyone could take the easy way out of anything, poverty, sickness, loneliness, hunger they'd do it.
In this case they apply to Parenthood because of the huge responsibility it takes despite what their doing is completely evil and unatural. But when you've been conditioned to think that's it's you "human right" then I can't partially blame you.
I can only fully blame you if you begin to think for yourself and still end up with the same conclusion.
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I literally said that if it's rape or health reasons the they should have that option.
And we all know that birth control is not 100% so you're still taking a gamble which you should be ready to own up to if it goes south.
I don't even care if it's a baby or not. If something can't live without help and no one wants to help it, it can die and I won't be mad.
You can't force me to give blood to someone just because they're dying and in need. You shouldn't be able to force a woman to carry a baby to term if she doesn't want to. Especially if you're not also willing to take up the burden after the fact, since she'd otherwise be capable of freeing herself from said burden.
It's not like we're hurting for more people to where we need to force people to carry to term. WE have the technology to spare undesired children from that existence while also allowing people to avoid unintended consequences.
What I don't understand is why all these people seem to want to force such a meager existence onto a kid while also making adults hate their own life? What kind of "good" is that?
"But maybe the kid will become the next Mozart!" K. Just as likely for the very NEXT kid in line that didn't get aborted to be.
Nah. Why do that when we have the means of not having to own up to it without any major harm being done? Not every human (or, in this case, would-be human) is a gift from god.
I say this as the husband of a wife who is now pregnant. WE'RE ACTUALLY HAPPY ABOUT IT AND WANT THE CHILD. Stop creating broken homes with parents and children suffering because no one was excited.
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A fetus is just the earliest point of development for a human being. Find a case where someone's fetus turned into a fucking carrot and then I'll change my mind. Until then a fetus is just as human as you are.
Hilarious how you have to use a freaking disease to justify your BS
Oh I'm harming women, what are you doing to unborn children, you ain't putting them on time out that's for sure.
The only thing that's harmed those women was their shitty parents and shitty teachers they had growing up.
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It's an extreme situation that by definition shouldn't happen often. It is what it is. We're humans and are capable of seeing that. But we all know that terminating perfectly healthy pregnancies and consented conceptions to be evil as fuck. The problem is that you've been conditioned to think otherwise.
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A fetus is not in a fucking coma because of a car accident... A fetus hasn't developed enough yet to have that conscience. The person in a coma did have that conscience but was unfortunate to have been injured.
It's not the same thing.
Even that's not true. You're ignoring the zygote stage. And that gametes themselves are "human". And that "human being" isn't even a medical term in the first place.
And as "human" as my toenails. Are my toenails each a person?Find a case where someone's fetus turned into a fucking carrot and then I'll change my mind. Until then a fetus is just as human as you are.
You're the one who made the absolutely ridiculous assertion that memory retention was necessary for personhood.Hilarious how you have to use a freaking disease to justify your BS
They're not people. Maybe the problem is you don't see women as people, either?Oh I'm harming women, what are you doing to unborn children, you ain't putting them on time out that's for sure.
I didn't say in a coma, I said a vegetable, as in there is no consciousness there which is the part that matters. The fetus hasn't developed enough to have that consciousness yet which even you just admit here.
No consciousness means no person, end of story. Getting rid of a lump of cells that has no consciousness is not murder. And if you are going by potential, then you are saying that it shouldn't be legal to get rid of any other infection, vaginal or otherwise because there is a chance it could mutate into something that could potentially have that consciousness as well or, again, you just made the skin off my ass as sacred as your kids because it could theoretically become life as well.
We aren't dealing in what is potentially there, we are dealing with what is ACTUALLY there, and no consciousness means no person which means no murder.
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