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https://www.biologyonline.com/dictionary/organismOriginally Posted by Varx
Single-celled organisms are, in fact, organisms. You continue to not have any sweet fucking clue what science actually says.
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2022-11-10, 06:33 PM #4881I Don't Work Here
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoeba Originally Posted by Varx
God, you suck at this.
Your Hispanic mom didn't send you to school?“There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”
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2022-11-10, 06:34 PM #4883Banned
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Because it's the truth... Originally Posted by Edge-
That's the only thing that choicer desperately cling to. That a fetus somehow isn't human. That's the only pillar pro choice has to stand on and it's flimsy as fuck, being kept up by corrupt liberals wanted to profit off of less fortunate people
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2022-11-10, 06:35 PM #4884The Lightbringer
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Bacteria would disagree. God it's so easy to argue against you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicellular_organism Originally Posted by Varx
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We aren't talking about micro life, kid. You never learned about context clues? Originally Posted by Mekh
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Read up, try harder Originally Posted by Pannonian
If we were single cell organisms then I wouldn't be saying that now would I?
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2022-11-10, 06:35 PM #4886Moderator
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Fair point on cells vs. organism. Originally Posted by Varx
Now do cancer, again: https://news.berkeley.edu/2011/07/26...olved-species/
Cancer can be an organism, so by your definition cancerous tumor is a separate living entity that is reliant on its host/"parent" to remain alive. Removing it would kill the cancerous tumor, thus resulting in murder.Cancer patients may view their tumors as parasites taking over their bodies, but this is more than a metaphor for Peter Duesberg, a molecular and cell biology professor at the University of California, Berkeley.
Cancerous tumors are parasitic organisms, he said. Each one is a new species that, like most parasites, depends on its host for food, but otherwise operates independently and often to the detriment of its host.
In a paper published in the July 1 issue of the journal Cell Cycle, Duesberg and UC Berkeley colleagues describe their theory that carcinogenesis – the generation of cancer – is just another form of speciation, the evolution of new species.
“Cancer is comparable to a bacterial level of complexity, but still autonomous, that is, it doesn’t depend on other cells for survival; it doesn’t follow orders like other cells in the body, and it can grow where, when and how it likes,” said Duesberg. “That’s what species are all about.”
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Pretty much, he just's to distract from the issues and make sure useful information is surrounded by shit on here. But once again, the trolls will continue to kick the asses of the regular posters on here. Just like he did for the past 7 pages. Originally Posted by Shadowferal
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I'm still confused as to what a zygote has to do with a PS5? Originally Posted by Varx
This is the same, "LET ME KNOW WHEN A CHIMPANZEE GIVES BIRTH TO A HUMAN BEING IF EVOLUTION IS REAL!" energy.
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2022-11-10, 06:36 PM #4889The Lightbringer
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Technically you're wrong Originally Posted by Specialka
People just don't evolve in their opinion while society keeps changing around you.
Someone who is a monarchist at 25 will probably still be that at 75 even if by then 99% of 25 year old are republicans.
50 years later the 75 year old republicans might be Conservative as there is a block of 25 year old that want universal suffrage for adults instead of just make suffrage.- Lars
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Dude, you and your useless mother have no idea about science. Just walk away, this is embarassing. Originally Posted by Varx
“There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”
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2022-11-10, 06:37 PM #4891The Unstoppable Force
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Most likely even I am shocked that deep red states are voting against pro-life measures, justice Roberts must be losing his mind this is exactly what he warned against. Republicans basically already had abortion banned without having to overturn it and facing public backlash. Originally Posted by Shadowferal
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2022-11-10, 06:38 PM #4892I Don't Work Here
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False. Originally Posted by Varx
You're confusing definitions.
The fetus is "human", in the sense that it is genetically human. So are my toes, even if you cut one off. So are cancerous growths. So are the gametes in ejaculate.
The fetus is not "a human being", in the sense of an infant born alive or whatever other legal definition for such a term as you want. This is a definition that defines personhood, and has nothing to do with genetics or science.
A fetus is human. It is not a human being. This is simple, verifiable, objective fact. If you've got a problem with that, you've got a problem with objective reality. None of this is opinion.
And conflating the two is intentional dishonesty.
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??? Originally Posted by Mekh
Again was I ever advocate for microbes???
If we were systematically aborting micro life then sure their life matters too, lmao
Sit down kid
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Dude seriously... This is one of the worst mix of goal post moving and ignorance i have encountered in a while here. I actually feel somewhat bad posting yet again, because honestly... you're humiliating yourself really hard right now... i don't mind a good discussion, but god, if you want to talk about a topic like biology, at least try to read up on the basics... Originally Posted by Varx
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Actually no. The main argument for pro choice is that a woman is entitled to control of her own body. We do not require someone to compromise their body autonomy EVEN after death. Unless they are pregnant women. Fetal personhood is irrelevant to that argument because my bodily autonomy cannot and will not be sacrificed for the right of others. To suggest otherwise means you are in favor of mandatory organ donation. Originally Posted by Varx
It really is the only argument needed and the only argument that matters because there is no reasonable counter to it.
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Do you think I'm vegan? If not then you'd know how I feel about that. Unless a tumor somehow grown into a livingg person Originally Posted by Edge-
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Reminder; we're not trying to convince Varx that they're wrong. We're convincing everyone else that Varx is an extremist who doesn't have a legitimate case. Originally Posted by Pannonian
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There's a world of difference between getting more conservative and changing your entire value system. As you get older some things the newer generation finds fine will be weird or bad to you but that doesn't mean you are going to adopt brand new beliefs. If that were true there would be zero old liberals and left wing people wouldn't exist past 65. Originally Posted by Specialka
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Um... Who here doesn't already know this? Would be much easier to explain that to the newbies that show up rather then let Varx kick your collective asses for pages in games you pretend you aren't playing while he objectively is. Originally Posted by Endus
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It's what we're doing. And we have already established you are against that. Dementia much? Originally Posted by Varx
“There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”
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