SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Edge-]

Because many pro choicers wouldn't think twice to kill a healthy baby if they had all the resources I'm the world just because they want to.

This is a frankly terrible strawman, like, hilariously so.

[Mekh]

Being arbitrated is to have a despute settled.

Who settling disputing most disputes in the world. Courts created by arbitrary human laws or skynet?

Yes. And what you are rambling here is not arbitrated, it's arbitrary.

"Hurr-durr! Killing babies is EvIl, unless the mother was raped, then it's FiNe. Hurr-durr."

Perfectly arbitrary. One baby is worth less than the other, because you feel so.

[Varx]

This is a frankly terrible strawman, like, hilariously so.

Bullshit...

You just said it's all about bodily autonomy and nothing else.

[Edge-]

Bullshit...

You just said it's all about bodily autonomy and nothing else.

A baby is born, so there is no question of bodily autonomy at play here. Thanks for playing, we'll see you on the show next week.

[Muzjhath]

Let me ask you this.

If we had the best possible system for adoption and welfare for single or unexpected mothers imaginable. Would you be pro life?

If we also had artificial wombs and we could transplant the gamete/fetus with minimum intrusion and harm to the person giving it up with guaranteed abortion at delivery and no costs whatsoever for the original host?
Potentially.

[Varx]

Yes. And what you are rambling here is not arbitrated, it's arbitrary.

"Hurr-durr! Killing babies is EvIl, unless the mother was raped, then it's FiNe. Hurr-durr."

Perfectly arbitrary. One baby is worth less than the other, because you feel so.

Jesus Christ it's like you're being willfully obtuse.

This is why I said that life ain't perfect, that it ain't black and white. Not that one baby is worth more than the other. It's just that rape is an extreme with little wiggle.room. but it's an exception non the less, shouldn't be the rule.

[Edge-]

Jesus Christ it's like you're being willfully obtuse.

This is why I said that life ain't perfect, that it ain't black and white. Not that one baby is worth more than the other. It's just that rape is an extreme with little wiggle.room. but it's an exception non the less, shouldn't be the rule.

"Why should the baby be punished for what happened to the mother?"

Would be the logically consistent argument if you actually believed what you were saying.

[Varx]

A baby is born, so there is no question of bodily autonomy at play here. Thanks for playing, we'll see you on the show next week.

You could predict a pregnancy would be nice and healthy even early on while also having the means to care for them.

But "muh autonomy"

So nice try.

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"Why should the baby be punished for what happened to the mother?"

Would be the logically consistent argument if you actually believed what you were saying.

I told you already I'm not a raging mysogonist. If men could get pregnant too then I'd still be the same.

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If we also had artificial wombs and we could transplant the gamete/fetus with minimum intrusion and harm to the person giving it up with guaranteed abortion at delivery and no costs whatsoever for the original host?
Potentially.

Wouldn't that be perfect

[Edge-]

You could predict a pregnancy would be nice and healthy even early on while also having the means to care for them.

...what? You said a baby, as in like, out of the womb. Unless you're using personal definitions for words that we can't possibly know since we can't read your mind.

Also, lots of pregnancies start out healthy and safe and unexpected complications crop up along the way. If you're being logically consistent with your "abortion is murder" argument, then the health of the mother is an acceptable risk to avoid committing murder. Since by forcing her to carry the pregnancy won't guarantee death, but an abortion "will".

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I told you already I'm not a raging mysogonist. If men could get pregnant too then I'd still be the same.

This is pathetic evasion of the fact that you don't even have an internally consistent and logical position.

[Mekh]

Jesus Christ it's like you're being willfully obtuse.

Don't get angry at us for pointing out your arbitration, lol.

[Muzjhath]

...what? You said a baby, as in like, out of the womb. Unless you're using personal definitions for words that we can't possibly know since we can't read your mind.

Also, lots of pregnancies start out healthy and safe and unexpected complications crop up along the way. If you're being logically consistent with your "abortion is murder" argument, then the health of the mother is an acceptable risk to avoid committing murder. Since by forcing her to carry the pregnancy won't guarantee death, but an abortion "will".

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This is pathetic evasion of the fact that you don't even have an internally consistent and logical position.

They already admitted that they put the birth of a healthy baby ahead of the life of the parent

[Paranoid Android]

I'll post here.

BREAKING: Montana has officially rejected an anti-abortion ballot initiative, meaning abortion rights groups won all (6/6) of their ballot fights this year.

I hope the people who voted to keep their choice in some of these states, turn around and vote someone who could possibly take it away federally.

[Varx]

...what? You said a baby, as in like, out of the womb. Unless you're using personal definitions for words that we can't possibly know since we can't read your mind.

Also, lots of pregnancies start out healthy and safe and unexpected complications crop up along the way. If you're being logically consistent with your "abortion is murder" argument, then the health of the mother is an acceptable risk to avoid committing murder. Since by forcing her to carry the pregnancy won't guarantee death, but an abortion "will".

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This is pathetic evasion of the fact that you don't even have an internally consistent and logical position.

Why would I be talking about a baby outside the womb when this is a topic of abortion? Like do you need me to use "zygote" or "fetus" everytime?

You don't need to read my mind its common sense given the context.

And Ive said before many times that life of mommy is an exception and you know this. So stop it.


Now, again, I'm saying that using the autonomy argument is disgusting, selfish, and evil.

At least you can get SOME sympathy because you absolutely can't care for the child and the adoption system is trash.

But being a well off woman who consented to sex and now wants an abortion cuz it's her "right" and doesn't feel like having it has a disgusting moral compass.

[Orange Joe]

I mean I've stated this time and time again as an exception, and you know this so I dunno why you acting all Pikachu face.

At what point does semen become a human?

[Varx]

They already admitted that they put the birth of a healthy baby ahead of the life of the parent

Not if it's jeopardy to the life of the mother or rape. Other wise, damn straight.

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At what point does semen become a human?

When a single sperm of millions it carries merges with an egg. Quiz next Monday.

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Don't get angry at us for pointing out your arbitration, lol.

No you were arguing about semantics. Keep trying papi.

[Mekh]

When a single sperm of millions it carries merges with an egg.

Does that include in vitro?

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Keep trying papi.

I'd love to say, I'm your daddy, but

a) I'd have pushed for abortion

b) I didn't want to touch your mom

[Varx]

Does that include in vitro?

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I'd love to say, I'm your daddy, but

a) I'd have pushed for abortion

b) I didn't want to touch your mom

Was school out today? Lmao

[Mekh]

Was school out today? Lmao

Dunno, flunky. If I was you, I'd go home and do my homework before I misuse another word.

But you won't. So how about that in vitro fertilization?

[Varx]

Dunno, flunky. If I was you, I'd go home and do my homework before I misuse another word.

But you won't. So how about that in vitro fertilization?

Except I didn't miss use it...

[Mekh]

Except I didn't miss use it...

In vitro, motherfucker, let's talk about it.