SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Varx]

In vitro, motherfucker, let's talk about it.

What about it...

[Edge-]

Why would I be talking about a baby outside the womb when this is a topic of abortion? Like do you need me to use "zygote" or "fetus" everytime?

Yes? Because that's what a baby is, born, and the stages of development are not "babies".

And Ive said before many times that life of mommy is an exception and you know this. So stop it.

But why when we're talking about something as extreme as murder? Why is murder "sometimes" ok and sometimes not? That's an inherently contradictory position.

For example: I think murder is always wrong! That's why I'm staunchly opposed to even the death penalty, as I view that a monstrous institution that no developed and enlightened nation should continue to use.

I don't much care for your arbitrary definitions of murder that a minority of people believe in contradiction to scientific and medical facts.

My anti-murder stance is far more wholly consistent than yours. I reject murder all the time. You reject murder most of the time, but sometimes murder is A-OK.

[Mekh]

What about it...

You said sperm becomes a human when... let's see...

When a single sperm of millions it carries merges with an egg.

So if you are consistent for once in your life, that includes in vitro, right?

[Orange Joe]

Not if it's jeopardy to the life of the mother or rape. Other wise, damn straight.

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When a single sperm of millions it carries merges with an egg. Quiz next Monday.

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No you were arguing about semantics. Keep trying papi.

So the day after pills is murder to you? Even though there isn't a heartbeat yet

[Varx]

Yes? Because that's what a baby is, born, and the stages of development are not "babies".



But why when we're talking about something as extreme as murder? Why is murder "sometimes" ok and sometimes not? That's an inherently contradictory position.

For example: I think murder is always wrong! That's why I'm staunchly opposed to even the death penalty, as I view that a monstrous institution that no developed and enlightened nation should continue to use.

I don't much care for your arbitrary definitions of murder that a minority of people believe in contradiction to scientific and medical facts.

My anti-murder stance is far more wholly consistent than yours. I reject murder all the time. You reject murder most of the time, but sometimes murder is A-OK.

I'm against the DP too, but I'm sure you can agree that someone can blow an intruders brains out of they come into your home and threaten your family. That's an exception not the rule.

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So the day after pills is murder to you? Even though there isn't a heartbeat yet

The MA pill isn't an abortion.... It's just super concentrated birth control

[Paranoid Android]

So people I'm barely skimming these past few pages.

Once again, ALL 6 states struck down laws that would take that right away. Including what we call 3 red states(?). I think this is saying something. Isn't it?

[Varx]

You said sperm becomes a human when... let's see...



So if you are consistent for once in your life, that includes in vitro, right?

Obviously.... In vitro is just artificial insemination, what's your point?

[Mekh]

So people I'm barely skimming these past few pages.

Once again, ALL 6 states struck down laws that would take that right away. Including what we call 3 red states(?). I think this is saying something. Isn't it?

Varx thinks, the majority is wrong, because the majority was also for slavery.

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Obviously.... In vitro is just artificial insemination, what's your point?

So, this is ten humans?



(This isn't a gotcha, this is actually a petri dish used for in vitro fertilization using human samples.)

[Edge-]

I'm against the DP too, but I'm sure you can agree that someone can blow an intruders brains out of they come into your home and threaten your family. That's an exception not the rule.

You continue to argue that murder is bad, except in some circumstances where the same murder is actually just fine.

My position remains as rock solid and firm as a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus.

[Pannonian]

I'm against the DP too, but I'm sure you can agree that someone can blow an intruders brains out of they come into your home and threaten your family. That's an exception not the rule.

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The MA pill isn't an abortion.... It's just super concentrated birth control

No, words have a meaning, you cannot just invent new meanings for words. If the MA ends a pregnancy it is an abortion.

[Paranoid Android]

I will note also here. I think going up against Debate Lords, yes we are all, about who/what/where, why is a fetus is just pointless.

Let's keep it to a a person's choice. As we are seeing those people kind of want a choice over their body. Who woulda thunk it.

[Varx]

Varx thinks, the majority is wrong, because the majority was also for slavery.

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So, this is ten humans?



(This isn't a gotcha, this is actually a petri dish used for in vitro fertilization using human samples.)

Once it's implanted in a womb and begins mitosis then yes

[Orange Joe]

I'm against the DP too, but I'm sure you can agree that someone can blow an intruders brains out of they come into your home and threaten your family. That's an exception not the rule.

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The MA pill isn't an abortion.... It's just super concentrated birth control

So let me get this right. If a female took a pill it's not murder. But if it's a medical procedure it is? Can we get some consistancy here?

[Varx]

No, words have a meaning, you cannot just invent new meanings for words. If the MA ends a pregnancy it is an abortion.

MA prevents pregnancy not end it.

[Orange Joe]

Once it's implanted in a womb and begins mitosis then yes

So it's not when the sperm enters the egg?

[Varx]

You continue to argue that murder is bad, except in some circumstances where the same murder is actually just fine.

My position remains as rock solid and firm as a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus.

Yeah that's what an exception is...

[Orange Joe]

Yeah that's what an exception is...

Your exceptions make no consistent or logical sense.

[Mekh]

Once it's implanted in a womb and begins mitosis then yes

So, it's not a human. You just expanded your definition of a human by adding the womb requirement.

[Varx]

So it's not when the sperm enters the egg?

That's just part one. Of conception part two is implantation of the uterus

I know I said the former before but I wasn't talking about I'm vitro then.

Only way u gonna stop implantation naturally is via the MA pill.

[Mekh]

So it's not when the sperm enters the egg?

Thank you, exactly.