SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Dontrike]

There isn't, but they'd pass it if they could.

So you have nothing and are screeching your idiotic fantasies into the wind. Neat.

Hypocrite liberals as usual.

Imagine being this "smart."

[Cthulhu 2020]

So yeah, pregnancy being punishment for having sex, regardless of whether the mother wants it or not, is a pretty bad take. It is completely and utterly unfair for the woman given how often men just exit from a relationship because of it. "I'd still feel this way if men could get pregnant too" is also a pretty bad excuse for two reasons.

1. You don't know if that's true because that situation doesn't exist and your feelings on the matter could vary if there's something ACTUALLY at stake.

2. That situation won't ever exist.

[Captain N]

So yeah, pregnancy being punishment for having sex, regardless of whether the mother wants it or not, is a pretty bad take. It is completely and utterly unfair for the woman given how often men just exit from a relationship because of it. "I'd still feel this way if men could get pregnant too" is also a pretty bad excuse for two reasons.

1. You don't know if that's true because that situation doesn't exist and your feelings on the matter could vary if there's something ACTUALLY at stake.

2. That situation doesn't exist.

The question I always ask the folks who say they would feel the same (and it's usually men) is do they believe they should be financially responsible for the pre-natal care of the woman they've impregnated. It's almost unanimously no that a man should not be held accountable for the pregnancy even though these folks bang on about "personal responsibility"' because in some reality a pregnancy only takes one person. As we've all repeated a million times here -- it's not nor has it ever been about "unborn babies" it has always been about control over women.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The question I always ask the folks who say they would feel the same (and it's usually men) is do they believe they should be financially responsible for the pre-natal care of the woman they've impregnated. It's almost unanimously no that a man should not be held accountable for the pregnancy even though these folks bang on about "personal responsibility"' because in some reality a pregnancy only takes one person. As we've all repeated a million times here -- it's not nor has it ever been about "unborn babies" it has always been about control over women.

I imagine Narx would claim he would. But he's clearly not the average or even common pro-lifer. And with how many men who want to basically just force women to be pregnant with no responsibility are a part of the pro-life movement, making abortion illegal is stupid.

[Muzjhath]

So yeah, pregnancy being punishment for having sex, regardless of whether the mother wants it or not, is a pretty bad take. It is completely and utterly unfair for the woman given how often men just exit from a relationship because of it. "I'd still feel this way if men could get pregnant too" is also a pretty bad excuse for two reasons.

1. You don't know if that's true because that situation doesn't exist and your feelings on the matter could vary if there's something ACTUALLY at stake.

2. That situation won't ever exist.

Add to the fact that they expressed some extremely transphobic-adjacent language. So the cases where a man would be pregnant? They'd missgender said man.

[Rasulis]

I imagine Narx would claim he would. But he's clearly not the average or even common pro-lifer. And with how many men who want to basically just force women to be pregnant with no responsibility are a part of the pro-life movement, making abortion illegal is stupid.

Raising children properly is a pain in the ass. My wife and I are much happier now that our children are out of the house. Don't take it wrong. I love both of them dearly. However, I love them more when they are not living in my house.

[Twdft]

The question I always ask the folks who say they would feel the same (and it's usually men) is do they believe they should be financially responsible for the pre-natal care of the woman they've impregnated. It's almost unanimously no that a man should not be held accountable for the pregnancy even though these folks bang on about "personal responsibility"' because in some reality a pregnancy only takes one person. As we've all repeated a million times here -- it's not nor has it ever been about "unborn babies" it has always been about control over women.

Most men won't even share in for an IUD before the relationship went on for a serious amount of time.

[Edge-]

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/...-rights-years/

In which Tennessee Republicans have a call with the Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America group, and ask them what to do about IVF and contraception.

“Maybe your caucus gets to a point next year, two years from now, three years from now, where you do want to talk about IVF, and how to regulate it in a more ethical way, or deal with some of those contraceptive issues,” said Stephen Billy, vice president for state affairs at Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America. “But I don’t think that that’s the conversation that you need to have now.”

Reminder: Republicans have no interest at stopping at restricting or banning access to abortion services, and will absolutely try to limit access to or eliminate other key aspects of health and preventative care including contraceptives and IVF.

Even as those moves remain majority unpopular and their extremist positions are consistently rejected when put to voters.

[Endus]

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/11/...-rights-years/

In which Tennessee Republicans have a call with the Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America group, and ask them what to do about IVF and contraception.



Reminder: Republicans have no interest at stopping at restricting or banning access to abortion services, and will absolutely try to limit access to or eliminate other key aspects of health and preventative care including contraceptives and IVF.

Even as those moves remain majority unpopular and their extremist positions are consistently rejected when put to voters.

It shouldn't even matter if they're "unpopular". Pro-life positions are a naked attack on everyone's religious freedoms and on women's basic human rights. They shouldn't just be rejected, this shit should be seen as Iran-level theocratic fuckery.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/healt...sis/index.html

And another story of a woman in Texas who almost died because she needed life-saving medical care during a pregnancy complication and as a result almost dying.

[Inuyaki]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/healt...sis/index.html

And another story of a woman in Texas who almost died because she needed life-saving medical care during a pregnancy complication and as a result almost dying.

Also she wanted a child, but now most likely can never have one because the abortion was so much delayed, the infection scarred her uterus... very pro-life!

[SoulForge]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/healt...sis/index.html

And another story of a woman in Texas who almost died because she needed life-saving medical care during a pregnancy complication and as a result almost dying.

I am just in absolute shock..........

/s

[Shadowferal]

Republicans Lost Big on Abortion Ballot Measures. Now They’re Trying to Change the Rules

Republicans, perhaps coming to terms with the unpopularity of their antiabortion agenda, seem to be grasping for a new playbook. Republicans in Ohio want to make it harder to amend the state constitution via ballot initiative, which abortion advocates say is a blatant attempt to block voter-driven efforts to enshrine reproductive protections in state rights.

“Ohio’s constitution has been far too susceptible to efforts by outside groups and special interests seeking to alter the people’s constitution to achieve their own ends,” Republican state representative Brian Stewart said, according to The Columbus Dispatch. With the backing of Frank LaRose, the Republican Ohio secretary of state, Stewart has introduced a resolution that would require a supermajority of Ohioans, 60%—as opposed to the current threshold of 50% plus one vote—to change the state constitution.

The push comes on the heels of several successful ballot measure initiatives protecting abortion rights. Voters in Michigan and Vermont enshrined abortion rights into their states’ constitutions. Californians went further, extending constitutional protections to include contraceptives. Even in the red states of Montana and Kentucky, voters shot down ballot initiatives that would have eroded abortion protections. Over the summer, Kansans, too, resoundingly voted against a measure that would’ve done the same.

[RampageBW1]

So after realizing that most people want reproductive rights, in some form, they want to change the rules to force their shitty policies on to an unwilling populace...

Man, republicans really are sore losers.

[SoulForge]

So after realizing that most people want reproductive rights, in some form, they want to change the rules to force their shitty policies on to an unwilling populace...

Man, republicans really are sore losers.

I would have said Fascists. Pushing their unpopular rules on everyone.

[Edge-]

So after realizing that most people want reproductive rights, in some form, they want to change the rules to force their shitty policies on to an unwilling populace...

Man, republicans really are sore losers.

Same shit they do on the regular.

Oh, Florida voters voted to allow people with felonies who have served their time and are back out in society to regain their right to vote?

Can't have that! The Republican Legislature had better pass a law preventing many from doing so unless they pay off all court fees and fines.

Which sounds a lot like a poll tax for some folks, but whatever, we'll ignore that. Theoretically fine...except that the whole system is a disaster and even trying to find out what you owe, and to which court, is reportedly a god-damned nightmare.

So you have former felons that think they can vote and have tried to pay off all their fines, that successfully register within the state to vote and think they can, and are then arrested because the state itself told them they could vote when they couldn't.

Which is all, somehow, delivering Florida voters exactly what they voted for and not Republicans continuing their efforts of doing everything possible to limit access to voting and rejecting actually popular democracy.

[RampageBW1]

I would have said Fascists. Pushing their unpopular rules on everyone.

Just because they are fascists doesn't negate my statement about them being sore losers.

[Varx]

Man last post 5 days ago, and no conservative posts in sight.

No problem, kindly reminding you guys that there's no such thing as right to abortion and that abortion is not "healthcare" unless it's saving the mother from a complication.

My job is not to change your opinion after a few posts, but instead to sow seeds of doubt Incase any of you are in a situation where you believe killing your baby is the right thing for you to do.

[Varx]

That's a good thing, shame you had to ruin it. Your opinion is still wrong.

And let you guys stagnate in an echo chamber with a WRONG opinion. Na.

[Elegiac]

Man last post 5 days ago, and no conservative posts in sight.

One would think you'd have the good sense to continue the trend given your stance on abortion cost you a red wave.