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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Varx? He is not me. I am making an argument that abortion is overused for sex-selection. That is an undeniable fact. If you believe women's body women's choice, then sex-selective abort female baby is also women's choice. However, you seem to disagree now. Because you hold double standard fundamentally.
    Ok, I’ll engage.

    If this is a fact, show your work.

  2. #5262
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    It's very often a decision made by both parents.
    But it is women's body women's choice. The only person that can make the decision is the women herself. Her husband has no say-so based on Chinese law. As an adult, it is all her fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    But it is women's body women's choice. The only person that can make the decision is the women herself. Her husband has no say-so based on Chinese law. As an adult, it is all her fault.
    That’s the baked in misogyny my guy.

    Looool.

  4. #5264
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Ok, I’ll engage.

    If this is a fact, show your work.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion

    In a 2005 study, Zhu, Lu, and Hesketh found that the highest sex ratio was for those ages 1–4, and two provinces, Tibet and Xinjiang, had sex ratios within normal limits. Two other provinces had a ratio over 140, four had ratios between 130–139, and seven had ratios between 120–129, each of which is significantly higher than the natural sex ratio.[68]

    The birth sex ratio in China, according to a 2012 news report, has decreased to 117 males born for every 100 females.[72] The sex ratio peaked in 2004 at around 121, and had declined to around 112 in 2017.[73] The ratio was forecast to drop below 112 by 2020 and 107 by 2030, according to the National Population Development Outline by the State Council.[74]

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    So what does that have to do with the thread topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Varx? He is not me.
    I mean, you might not be. But it's sure funny how as soon as he gets banned some other pro life individual who hadn't posted in this thread before just -magically- appears to pick up the torch of saying shit to rile everyone else up. Reminds me of the good ol' days of Conservative posters getting banned and their sock puppets, erm.. sorry, other totally real and legitimate people would just so happen to pick that day to start posting with the same opinions then vanish when the previous poster returns.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_sex_ratio

    India 1.11 1.13 1.14 1.07 1.00 0.89 1.08
    China 1.11 1.16 1.17 1.05 1.02 0.90 1.06

    Both in China and India, it ends up very badly. Naturally, the birth rate should be 103:100.

    Do not tell me "sex is just a social agenda, they do not exist." Some sorts of mental health issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I mean, you might not be. But it's sure funny how as soon as he gets banned some other pro life individual who hadn't posted in this thread before just -magically- appears to pick up the torch of saying shit to rile everyone else up. Reminds me of the good ol' days of Conservative posters getting banned and their sock puppets, erm.. sorry, other totally real and legitimate people would just so happen to pick that day to start posting with the same opinions then vanish when the previous poster returns.
    Because I agree with many of his points after months of investigations. I register this new account to make some arguments since I do not think he makes enough of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Ok, I’ll engage.
    I would have begged you not to, but it's already pages too late for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    But it is women's body women's choice. The only person that can make the decision is the women herself. Her husband has no say-so based on Chinese law. As an adult, it is all her fault.
    OK. And? What issue is there with "fault"? There is no crime being committed. And again, sex selective abortion is largely a financial decision made by most couples to secure themselves in their elderly years. Remove that factor and sex selective abortion becomes a non-issue.

    Why do you want to treat the symptom and not the underlying cause? Continuing to put the onus of family financial support on men is causing massive issues for Chinese men. I don't want to imagine you're the kind of person who would choose oppressing someone over another solution that would relieve others, but the fact that you'd rather put a tight control on women over implementing a solution for men's problems says a lot about you as a person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    OK. And? What issue is there with "fault"? There is no crime being committed. And again, sex selective abortion is largely a financial decision made by most couples to secure themselves in their elderly years. Remove that factor and sex selective abortion becomes a non-issue.
    Again, sex-selective abortion is illegal and the ultimate decision is the women's her own choice. Of course it is her fault.

    Just like someone tells you you should steal money, and you have no brain and do it does not make that person guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Again, sex-selective abortion is illegal and the ultimate decision is the women's her own choice. Of course it is her fault.

    Just like someone tells you you should steal money, and you have no brain and do it does not make that person guilty.
    Mask ripped off and thrown to floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I would have begged you not to, but it's already pages too late for that...
    K.

    /10kaaaays

  12. #5272
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Mask ripped off and thrown to floor.
    Again I am not Verx. Stop making assumption on I am.

    I have read this threads for months and unfortunately people like you keep pushing the women autonomy echo chamber without even realizing the pitfalls of abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Again, sex-selective abortion is illegal and the ultimate decision is the women's her own choice. Of course it is her fault.

    Just like someone tells you you should steal money, and you have no brain and do it does not make that person guilty.
    "Guilty"

    The fact that you're treating abortion like a crime says all we need to know about you.

    Also, the part of my post that you ignored:

    Why do you want to treat the symptom and not the underlying cause? Continuing to put the onus of family financial support on men is causing massive issues for Chinese men. I don't want to imagine you're the kind of person who would choose oppressing someone over another solution that would relieve others, but the fact that you'd rather put a tight control on women over implementing a solution for men's problems says a lot about you as a person.
    That you'd rather oppress women than liberate men speaks VOLUMES about your character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Again I am not Verx. Stop making assumption on I am.
    The "mask" in question is your malicious misogynist intent. Not whether you're an alt account.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    "Guilty"

    The fact that you're treating abortion like a crime says all we need to know about you.

    Sex-selective abortion is guilty based on Chinese Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Sex-selective abortion is guilty based on Chinese Law.
    And yet there's no real way to prove that, so it happens anyway.

    And again,

    That you'd rather oppress women than liberate men speaks VOLUMES about your character.
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    Of course extreme feminists would believe sex-selective abortion is women's rights too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Of course extreme feminists would believe sex-selective abortion is women's rights too.
    "Extreme feminists" for thinking women own their bodies the same way as men do. Lul.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-lifer View Post
    Of course extreme feminists would believe sex-selective abortion is women's rights too.
    It’s extreme to treat women like they own their own bodies.

    LOOOOOL

    Projection, they name is Pro Life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    It’s extreme to treat women like they own their own bodies.

    LOOOOOL

    Projection, they name is Pro Life.
    It's pretty rich coming from someone who cares more about oppressing women than solving numerous men's issues.

    As I mentioned, the financial onus on men to support their entire immediate family causes numerous issues for men, but also for families as a whole. Male suicide happens more frequently because of it, often leaving those behind in poverty. It's a leading cause of anxiety, depression, and overwork. Getting rid of the onus of supporting one's parents and one's spouse's parents would vastly improve quality of life in China.

    But no, we apparently have to take away women's bodily autonomy and that's the only way. KEKW
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