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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    It's pretty rich coming from someone who cares more about oppressing women than solving numerous men's issues.
    It’s always the core of the argument. You wash all the shit off and your just left with a denser lump of shit.

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    Birth records in Canada show about 1.05 to 1 ratio here, and abortion is legal for any reason at any point. And yet it's so very very much higher in China, where there are significant restrictions in place.

    Almost goes to demonstrate that abortion isn't the problem at all, but other factors.

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    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...-rape-survivor

    Remember the doctor in Indiana that provided the likely life-saving abortion to the 10 year old girl raped in Ohio who couldn't secure an abortion there?

    The Indiana AG, who is currently suing for access to medical records to investigate the doctor, is now asking the state medical board to discipline her. For not reporting the child abuse to Indiana authorities. Which is a bit strange an kinda bullshit since the abuse didn't happen in Indiana, so Indiana authorities would have no jurisdiction to take action. The doctor did report the abuse to Ohio authorities and CPS, you know, the jurisdiction where the potential crimes took places and all.

    Also over alleged privacy violations because the doctor spoke about the subject to the media. Which I'm a bit suspect about, since I imagine if the family felt their privacy was violated in this they'd have taken legal action and it's quite possible the doctor was given explicit permission to discuss the medical procedure and circumstances while protecting the patient's anonymity.

    Once again, this is a reminder that Republicans will not stop at just outlawing abortion if they weren't so consistently thwarted by voters when this is put to a vote (even in very conservative states), but they will go after doctors that provide life-saving medical care to girls and women, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    But no, we apparently have to take away women's bodily autonomy and that's the only way. KEKW
    I find this line of inquiry regarding China very odd because part of the issue is that women have not had bodily autonomy in China and still don't. One Child Policy was only scrapped in 2015, and it did come with mandatory abortions. My understanding of the status quo is that it's currently a two-child policy, and even if it were being filled that's still below replacement.

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the government turned around and made motherhood mandatory, and not in the "illegalizing abortions" sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    I find this line of inquiry regarding China very odd because part of the issue is that women have not had bodily autonomy in China and still don't.
    China's a weird example to use period because its an extremely different country both culturally and how its governed. If anything its proof that trying to control the population's reproduction is a terrible idea.

    Canada is brought up a lot because its a neighbouring democratic country with generally similar ideals. It has no abortion restrictions of any kind, and these aren't creating a problem.

  6. #5286
    Quote Originally Posted by Myradin View Post
    Canada is brought up a lot because its a neighbouring democratic country with generally similar ideals. It has no abortion restrictions of any kind, and these aren't creating a problem.
    Everyone knows that Canada is a frigid hellscape, warmed only by the fires of burning aborted fetuses. Duh.

  7. #5287
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Everyone knows that Canada is a frigid hellscape, warmed only by the fires of burning aborted fetuses. Duh.
    Shit, is that where DC apparently got their power generation plans from? I remember that lady saying that was how DC got their power. In front of Congress, no less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    You know how many times I've been suspended for being pro life? Think I care? I'll happily wait out some silly little sentence given by biased modes to keep posting the truth after the fact.
    Not pro life. Pro birth. Pro life would also mean stating the death penalty shouldn't be allowed in ANY circumstance. It would mean requiring people to donate blood or organs(when they die or extra organs) to those that need them to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Everyone knows that Canada is a frigid hellscape, warmed only by the fires of burning aborted fetuses. Duh.
    Lies. I heard it was from them burning all of the access maple leaves and moose droppings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Not pro life. Pro birth. Pro life would also mean stating the death penalty shouldn't be allowed in ANY circumstance. It would mean requiring people to donate blood or organs(when they die or extra organs) to those that need them to live.

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    Lies. I heard it was from them burning all of the access maple leaves and moose droppings.
    Also wrong.

    We're heated by the sheer rage radiating off the geese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynarii View Post
    Also wrong.

    We're heated by the sheer rage radiating off the geese.
    Damn Canadian geese. Spawns of the devil. The literal devil. Things have fleshy teeth on their tongues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Damn Canadian geese. Spawns of the devil. The literal devil. Things have fleshy teeth on their tongues.
    Canada geese. They're not Canadian. Nothing that angry can be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Canada geese. They're not Canadian. Nothing that angry can be.
    I see you're not claiming ownership of those assholes that shit all over my lawn. How dare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Not pro life. Pro birth. Pro life would also mean stating the death penalty shouldn't be allowed in ANY circumstance. It would mean requiring people to donate blood or organs(when they die or extra organs) to those that need them to live.
    We know the right isn't pro life and never have been. Their obsession with guns for one. The fact that organ donor isn't a default status that can be opted out of for two. As you pointed out, mandatory blood donations that could save countless lives.

    As George Carlin put it, if you're unborn you're fine with the right, but as soon as you're born fuck you.
    “Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Canada geese. They're not Canadian. Nothing that angry can be.
    No, they're Canadian geese. We know that Canada has secretly found a way to channel all their rage and frustration into their geese to send them south for the winter. It just seems that there are some recent bugs in the system which has resulted in some people still being very upset over some vaccine mandate that doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Canada geese. They're not Canadian. Nothing that angry can be.
    It was explained that the Canadian geese exist as they are to absorb and concentrate all the negative emotions Canadians would feel living in a socialist communist frozen blightscape.

    Otherwise the Canadians would have come across the border and lakes on mooseback bearing hockey sticks and real beer looking for a fight.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Canada geese. They're not Canadian. Nothing that angry can be.
    Nope. You don't get to disown those evil things. Canada has to own those geese. They are like a massive mood ring. They absorb all the negative emotions around them. That is why most Canadians are mellow. Those geese absorb all the rest of those emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    I see you're not claiming ownership of those assholes that shit all over my lawn. How dare.
    As someone who did lawn care near water. I can not tell you how much I hate geese over ANY other animal in the world.... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Canada geese. They're not Canadian. Nothing that angry can be.
    Dude they're fucking savage. You ever walk by one with her little ducklings in tow. Mama duck will hiss and get real fucling aggressive.
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Justice Alito jokes with Justice Kagan that, "You do see a lot of Black children in Ku Klux Klan outfits all the time," during oral arguments in a free speech case.

    Audio in link. Please listen for full context.

    Umm, keeping it here but I could put this in the Alito thread about the leaks. Geez when I can post in multiple threads about SCOTUS.

    So this is a joke? I guess Alito is saying that it would be wrong to force a black Santa to take pictures with kids in kkk outfits. Where as kkk is not a protected class. The Colorado lawyer points this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Justice Alito jokes with Justice Kagan that, "You do see a lot of Black children in Ku Klux Klan outfits all the time," during oral arguments in a free speech case.

    Audio in link. Please listen for full context.

    Umm, keeping it here but I could put this in the Alito thread about the leaks. Geez when I can post in multiple threads about SCOTUS.

    So this is a joke? I guess Alito is saying that it would be wrong to force a black Santa to take pictures with kids in kkk outfits. Where as kkk is not a protected class. The Colorado lawyer points this out.
    If he “jokes” like that there, gives you an idea what he says in private.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Justice Alito jokes with Justice Kagan that, "You do see a lot of Black children in Ku Klux Klan outfits all the time," during oral arguments in a free speech case.

    Audio in link. Please listen for full context.

    Umm, keeping it here but I could put this in the Alito thread about the leaks. Geez when I can post in multiple threads about SCOTUS.

    So this is a joke? I guess Alito is saying that it would be wrong to force a black Santa to take pictures with kids in kkk outfits. Where as kkk is not a protected class. The Colorado lawyer points this out.
    He's an absolute horror show. Good analysis here of how the right wing of the Court is trying to pretend it's about content rather than immutable characteristics: https://www.thenation.com/article/so...-303-creative/

    "That’s why all of the inverted Klan analogies the conservatives were trying out didn’t make any sense. A black carpenter can refuse to make a cross for a person who wants to take it to a Klan rally. But that carpenter cannot refuse to make a cross for white people. The Klan analogy works only if you assume that every white person who would ask for a cross would only want it for a Klan rally, but I think white people are better than Alito and Barrett would have you believe.

    But conservatives don’t see it that way because they came into oral arguments determined to frame Smith’s discrimination as content-based instead of status based. Along with Alito and Barrett, justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, and alleged attempted rapist Brett Kavanugh all asked questions focused on Smith’s right to refuse to work on same-sex weddings, and waved away lawyers from Colorado (and the U.S. Department of Justice) who argued that discriminating against the “message” of same-sex marriage (that is, refusing that specific service) is the same as discriminating against LGBTQ couples looking for website designs."
    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. --Frank Wilhoit

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