SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Pro-lifer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_sex_ratio

India 1.11 1.13 1.14 1.07 1.00 0.89 1.08
China 1.11 1.16 1.17 1.05 1.02 0.90 1.06

Both in China and India, it ends up very badly. Naturally, the birth rate should be 103:100.

Do not tell me "sex is just a social agenda, they do not exist." Some sorts of mental health issue.

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I mean, you might not be. But it's sure funny how as soon as he gets banned some other pro life individual who hadn't posted in this thread before just -magically- appears to pick up the torch of saying shit to rile everyone else up. Reminds me of the good ol' days of Conservative posters getting banned and their sock puppets, erm.. sorry, other totally real and legitimate people would just so happen to pick that day to start posting with the same opinions then vanish when the previous poster returns.

Because I agree with many of his points after months of investigations. I register this new account to make some arguments since I do not think he makes enough of them.

[s_bushido]

Ok, I’ll engage.

I would have begged you not to, but it's already pages too late for that...

[Cthulhu 2020]

But it is women's body women's choice. The only person that can make the decision is the women herself. Her husband has no say-so based on Chinese law. As an adult, it is all her fault.

OK. And? What issue is there with "fault"? There is no crime being committed. And again, sex selective abortion is largely a financial decision made by most couples to secure themselves in their elderly years. Remove that factor and sex selective abortion becomes a non-issue.

Why do you want to treat the symptom and not the underlying cause? Continuing to put the onus of family financial support on men is causing massive issues for Chinese men. I don't want to imagine you're the kind of person who would choose oppressing someone over another solution that would relieve others, but the fact that you'd rather put a tight control on women over implementing a solution for men's problems says a lot about you as a person.

[Pro-lifer]

OK. And? What issue is there with "fault"? There is no crime being committed. And again, sex selective abortion is largely a financial decision made by most couples to secure themselves in their elderly years. Remove that factor and sex selective abortion becomes a non-issue.

Again, sex-selective abortion is illegal and the ultimate decision is the women's her own choice. Of course it is her fault.

Just like someone tells you you should steal money, and you have no brain and do it does not make that person guilty.

[unfilteredJW]

Again, sex-selective abortion is illegal and the ultimate decision is the women's her own choice. Of course it is her fault.

Just like someone tells you you should steal money, and you have no brain and do it does not make that person guilty.

Mask ripped off and thrown to floor.

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I would have begged you not to, but it's already pages too late for that...

K.

/10kaaaays

[Pro-lifer]

Mask ripped off and thrown to floor.

Again I am not Verx. Stop making assumption on I am.

I have read this threads for months and unfortunately people like you keep pushing the women autonomy echo chamber without even realizing the pitfalls of abortion.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Again, sex-selective abortion is illegal and the ultimate decision is the women's her own choice. Of course it is her fault.

Just like someone tells you you should steal money, and you have no brain and do it does not make that person guilty.

"Guilty"

The fact that you're treating abortion like a crime says all we need to know about you.

Also, the part of my post that you ignored:

Why do you want to treat the symptom and not the underlying cause? Continuing to put the onus of family financial support on men is causing massive issues for Chinese men. I don't want to imagine you're the kind of person who would choose oppressing someone over another solution that would relieve others, but the fact that you'd rather put a tight control on women over implementing a solution for men's problems says a lot about you as a person.

That you'd rather oppress women than liberate men speaks VOLUMES about your character.

[Endus]

Again I am not Verx. Stop making assumption on I am.

The "mask" in question is your malicious misogynist intent. Not whether you're an alt account.

[Pro-lifer]

"Guilty"

The fact that you're treating abortion like a crime says all we need to know about you.

Sex-selective abortion is guilty based on Chinese Law.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Sex-selective abortion is guilty based on Chinese Law.

And yet there's no real way to prove that, so it happens anyway.

And again,

That you'd rather oppress women than liberate men speaks VOLUMES about your character.

[Pro-lifer]

Of course extreme feminists would believe sex-selective abortion is women's rights too.

[Endus]

Of course extreme feminists would believe sex-selective abortion is women's rights too.

"Extreme feminists" for thinking women own their bodies the same way as men do. Lul.

[unfilteredJW]

Of course extreme feminists would believe sex-selective abortion is women's rights too.

It’s extreme to treat women like they own their own bodies.

LOOOOOL

Projection, they name is Pro Life.

[Cthulhu 2020]

It’s extreme to treat women like they own their own bodies.

LOOOOOL

Projection, they name is Pro Life.

It's pretty rich coming from someone who cares more about oppressing women than solving numerous men's issues.

As I mentioned, the financial onus on men to support their entire immediate family causes numerous issues for men, but also for families as a whole. Male suicide happens more frequently because of it, often leaving those behind in poverty. It's a leading cause of anxiety, depression, and overwork. Getting rid of the onus of supporting one's parents and one's spouse's parents would vastly improve quality of life in China.

But no, we apparently have to take away women's bodily autonomy and that's the only way. KEKW

[unfilteredJW]

It's pretty rich coming from someone who cares more about oppressing women than solving numerous men's issues.

It’s always the core of the argument. You wash all the shit off and your just left with a denser lump of shit.

[Lynarii]

Birth records in Canada show about 1.05 to 1 ratio here, and abortion is legal for any reason at any point. And yet it's so very very much higher in China, where there are significant restrictions in place.

Almost goes to demonstrate that abortion isn't the problem at all, but other factors.

[Edge-]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...-rape-survivor

Remember the doctor in Indiana that provided the likely life-saving abortion to the 10 year old girl raped in Ohio who couldn't secure an abortion there?

The Indiana AG, who is currently suing for access to medical records to investigate the doctor, is now asking the state medical board to discipline her. For not reporting the child abuse to Indiana authorities. Which is a bit strange an kinda bullshit since the abuse didn't happen in Indiana, so Indiana authorities would have no jurisdiction to take action. The doctor did report the abuse to Ohio authorities and CPS, you know, the jurisdiction where the potential crimes took places and all.

Also over alleged privacy violations because the doctor spoke about the subject to the media. Which I'm a bit suspect about, since I imagine if the family felt their privacy was violated in this they'd have taken legal action and it's quite possible the doctor was given explicit permission to discuss the medical procedure and circumstances while protecting the patient's anonymity.

Once again, this is a reminder that Republicans will not stop at just outlawing abortion if they weren't so consistently thwarted by voters when this is put to a vote (even in very conservative states), but they will go after doctors that provide life-saving medical care to girls and women, too.

[LilSaihah]

But no, we apparently have to take away women's bodily autonomy and that's the only way. KEKW

I find this line of inquiry regarding China very odd because part of the issue is that women have not had bodily autonomy in China and still don't. One Child Policy was only scrapped in 2015, and it did come with mandatory abortions. My understanding of the status quo is that it's currently a two-child policy, and even if it were being filled that's still below replacement.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the government turned around and made motherhood mandatory, and not in the "illegalizing abortions" sense.

[Myradin]

I find this line of inquiry regarding China very odd because part of the issue is that women have not had bodily autonomy in China and still don't.

China's a weird example to use period because its an extremely different country both culturally and how its governed. If anything its proof that trying to control the population's reproduction is a terrible idea.

Canada is brought up a lot because its a neighbouring democratic country with generally similar ideals. It has no abortion restrictions of any kind, and these aren't creating a problem.

[s_bushido]

Canada is brought up a lot because its a neighbouring democratic country with generally similar ideals. It has no abortion restrictions of any kind, and these aren't creating a problem.

Everyone knows that Canada is a frigid hellscape, warmed only by the fires of burning aborted fetuses. Duh.