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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Because "libbies" are tired of hearing the same debunked talking points repeated like they are suddenly going to "own the libs!" Seriously, you claimed this woman has a scientific basis for her argument against abortion, which she doesn't. And you never actually provided a scientific argument against abortion.

    Added to the facts you confused normal with most common and have zero clue what a miscarriage is.

    And debating with non-experts or talking over experts you give your side the time of day (which is all conservatives do), doesn't prove the point.
    Pft, doesn't matter how tired someone is. There's always newer generation on the cusp of adulthood who are forming their own views. you think it's right to deny them that chance just cuz it triggers your feefees, gtfo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatBlast View Post
    You can have any malformed, unevolved opinion you want my dude; but the fact you HAVE to ensure other people suffer for your fragile as fuck feelings is where it crosses into evil, which you are as well by the way.
    My feelings are solid as a rock.

    I don't want anyone to suffer. I'm fact I would say saving babies from death is the opposite of that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Okay that's your opinion. It's wrong AF
    Not really: it's well documented that the religious right was largely inactive in politics until the 1970s and abortion was invented as a wedge issue to cover up the fact evangelicals were becoming more active to oppose desegregation.

    This is why the anti-choice movement is so intellectually bankrupt and has no academic support; because it's almost entirely astroturfed. "True believers" like yourself just fell for the con.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  3. #5563
    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    I don't support snake oil salespeople. I don't support people whose sole intention is to lie.

    I am sorry, but I am not going to let people do that to others. It causes real harm.
    Preventing discussion is what causes harm. Without discussion we'd still have slavery and women wouldnt have the right to vote.

    But it's cool keep trying to shut down ideas, fascist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Not really: it's well documented that the religious right was largely inactive in politics until the 1970s and abortion was invented as a wedge issue to cover up the fact evangelicals were becoming more active to oppose desegregation.

    This is why the anti-choice movement is so intellectually bankrupt and has no academic support; because it's almost entirely astroturfed. "True believers" like yourself just fell for the con.
    Not all modern pro lifers are religious, like myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Pft, doesn't matter how tired someone is. There's always newer generation on the cusp of adulthood who are forming their own views. you think it's right to deny them that chance just cuz it triggers your feefees, gtfo.
    Misleading people, like you have been misled, is wrong.
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    Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Pft, doesn't matter how tired someone is. There's always newer generation on the cusp of adulthood who are forming their own views. you think it's right to deny them that chance just cuz it triggers your feefees, gtfo.

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    My feelings are solid as a rock.

    I don't want anyone to suffer. I'm fact I would say saving babies from death is the opposite of that lol
    Based on your consent stances, yes you do want others to suffer having yourself breathing heavily on top of them with no way for them to stop you.

    Pro rape goon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Preventing discussion is what causes harm. Without discussion we'd still have slavery and women wouldnt have the right to vote.

    But it's cool keep trying to shut down ideas, fascist

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    Not all modern prof lifers are religious, like myself.
    This is a lie and can be summarily discarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Preventing discussion is what causes harm. Without discussion we'd still have slavery and women wouldnt have the right to vote.

    But it's cool keep trying to shut down ideas, fascist.
    It wasn't discussion that got rid of slavery or gave women the right to vote in the United States.

    And I hate to tell you, we still have slavery in the United States. And the right for women to vote was given after years of protests, not discussion. It was basically in both cases one side telling the other to shut up, you're wrong. And making the change happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Oh I do. Happens a lot in college campuses across the country.
    Source: Trust me, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Preventing discussion is what causes harm.
    Some subjects are so clear cut that 'discussion' is invariably code for platforming intellectually and morally bankrupt positions; so no, we don't need to allow people like climate change deniers, antivaxxers, or fanatical pro-lifers to participate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Preventing discussion is what causes harm. Without discussion we'd still have slavery and women wouldnt have the right to vote.
    Sir, we literally had a Civil War over that shit.

    I guess we can add, "American history" to the list of topics you don't understand as well as you think you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Not all modern pro lifers are religious, like myself.
    Sure. That just means you fell for a decades long con by religious people who invented a wedge issue largely out of whole cloth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Sir, we literally had a Civil War over that shit.

    I guess we can add, "American history" to the list of topics you don't understand as well as you think you do.
    And women didn't get the right to vote because of "discussion" either.

    Changes don't happen with discussion where both sides get treated with the same respect. Some people are just wrong, and humoring their ego will not change anything.
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    Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
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    You guys are being baited by an emotionally insecure manchild that knows him and all his ilk are dying off every generation.

    Just let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Preventing discussion is what causes harm. Without discussion we'd still have slavery and women wouldnt have the right to vote.
    Nobody is "preventing discussion", here. It's just that your points brought up for discussion are malicious and dishonest and intended to foster cruelty and suffering on the vulnerable. So we deem them unconvincing and ethically repugnant.

    That's what discussion looks like. Want better treatment? That's reliant entirely on your own conduct and the legitimacy of the arguments you bring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You guys are being baited by an emotionally insecure manchild that knows him and all his ilk are dying off every generation.

    Just let it go.
    We're saving babies and we're dying off?? Lmao.

    Toppest of kek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Nobody is "preventing discussion", here. It's just that your points brought up for discussion are malicious and dishonest and intended to foster cruelty and suffering on the vulnerable. So we deem them unconvincing and ethically repugnant.

    That's what discussion looks like. Want better treatment? That's reliant entirely on your own conduct and the legitimacy of the arguments you bring.
    The one true argument is that life begins at conception. You guys call me a religious loon and claim autonomy trumps life.

    I'm also called rapist multiple times.

    And I'm the one who needs to watch my behavior???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    We're saving babies and we're dying off?? Lmao.

    Toppest of kek

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    The one true argument is that life begins at conception. You guys call me a religious loon and claim autonomy trumps life.

    I'm also called rapist multiple times.

    And I'm the one who needs to watch my behavior???
    "Why are people using my own words to show how terrible of a person I truly am?!?"

    I take back my self awareness praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    "Why are people using my own words to show how terrible of a person I truly am?!?"

    I take back my self awareness praise.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Yt0xJKDY8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post



    The one true argument is that life begins at conception.
    this is a religious position not a scientific one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Nobody is "preventing discussion", here. It's just that your points brought up for discussion are malicious and dishonest and intended to foster cruelty and suffering on the vulnerable. So we deem them unconvincing and ethically repugnant.
    And he knows it. His side of his filth-driven bile has reps in states that want to make it illegal for women to travel. He knows he isn't convincing anyone at all. So he just trolls for responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    The one true argument is that life begins at conception. You guys call me a religious loon and claim autonomy trumps life.
    The bold is not an argument. It isn't even a fact. It is an arbitrary point, no more or less arbitrary than live begins at birth.

    And yes, bodily autonomy trumps life. We cannot force blood donations to be given. We cannot even force people to accept receiving blood donations.

    The only place that anyone argues that bodily autonomy doesn't trump life is with pregnancy. It is the only place where people even make that "argument"
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    Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    this is a religious position not a scientific one
    A fertilized egg begins growing and multiply. If that isn't alive then idk wtf is. A toaster?

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