SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Elegiac]

So you wouldn't blow the brains out of someone entering your home to harm you and your loved ones?

Wow it's almost as if murder is unlawful killing and killing in self-defense is legal within certain bounds.

[Varx]

Refusing a medical procedure is entirely within their rights, and moreover that choice does not indicate opposition to artificial wombs.

If you refuse the procedure to remove the fetus to then place in the artificial womb then yeah it would. So again nothing would satisfy a libs precious autonomy. Just pure selfishness. Disgusting

[Edge-]

So you wouldn't blow the brains out of someone entering your home to harm you and your loved ones?

You're going to get confused with your discussion with Endus here, yeah it might actually be murder.

Again, you're the one defining abortion as murder, so this is your contradiction you need to resolve.

[Elegiac]

Bullshit. That bond is the strongest relationship on this planet.

So strong you can't actually quantify it or explain it rationally. Uh huh.

How many kids have you adopted, out of curiosity?

If you refuse the procedure to remove the fetus to then place in the artificial womb then yeah it would.

Sweaty, me refusing to get a nosejob does not automatically mean I am opposed to rhinoplasty. Your argument is infantile.

[Edge-]

So strong you can't actually quantify it or explain it rationally. Uh huh.

How many kids have you adopted, out of curiosity?

Also so strong that plenty of babies are abandoned or abused in all kinds of monsterous ways by their mothers.

BuT ThE BOnd is SpEcIAl!

[Endus]

Bullshit. That bond is the strongest relationship on this planet.

Absolute nonsense. No basis for this whatsoever. Plus, let's recall the ancient maxim; that the blood of the pact is stronger than the water of the womb. Yeah, that's the origin of "blood is thicker than water"; it actually means the opposite of what people often think.

If you just can't handle the financial responsibility then put it up for adoption. Other wise the choice is out of pure selfishness and a disconnect from real femininity.

And away we go with the outright misogyny.

[Varx]

A disproving of the principle? Yes. Any and all "exceptions" to any base principle prove, conclusively, that this principle is flawed and must be discarded. It's been disproven by the existence of that exception.

That's how principles work. The exception is a demonstration that the principle does not hold true. Therefore, it's false/incomplete and must be discarded.

Trying to hold the principle and the exception at the same time is willful cognitive dissonance, nothing more.

No because principals don't always apply to 100 percent of a demographic. But we can't base society off of the few,

[Captain N]

Oh we're at the mother/child bond is the strongest on the planet....?

*Casey Anthony has entered the thread*

[Xyonai]

What makes you say that. Of a woman make such a decision then obviously she didn't feel that special connection due to liberal poisoning

And the only people who are against abortions are obviously folks who've been infected with Evil Conservative Dark Magick.

Do you realize how unhinged that sounds?

Maybe you need to take a break, catch your breath, collect your thoughts, and return to the discussion when you feel you're ready for it. Trust me, as an introvert, I too get a bit mentally overwhelmed when I gotta talk to people for a while, stuff comes out half-cocked or incoherent but just a li'l time to recharge helps a whole lot.

Then you can come back, refreshed, and ready to engage with the rest of us.

[Darththeo]

Bullshit. That bond is the strongest relationship on this planet. If you just can't handle the financial responsibility then put it up for adoption. Other wise the choice is out of pure selfishness and a disconnect from real femininity.

lmao ... no, it isn't. I hate to tell you, that is just what you were told to believe by society. If what you said was true, abusive mothers wouldn't exist.
Your belief is why people who escape abusive parents are told they are terrible people for leaving their parents.

The number of parents who say "When you are 18, you're out" is also proof it isn't "the strongest relationship on this planet." It can be the strongest relationship an individual has, but individuals also have stronger bonds than it.

[Elegiac]

Also so strong that plenty of babies are abandoned or abused in all kinds of monsterous ways by their mothers.

BuT ThE BOnd is SpEcIAl!

Also assuming that male parents cannot have an equally if not stronger bond, so add misandry and heteronormativity to that pile.

Men need feminism because people like Varx exist.

[Varx]

Absolute nonsense. No basis for this whatsoever. Plus, let's recall the ancient maxim; that the blood of the pact is stronger than the water of the womb. Yeah, that's the origin of "blood is thicker than water"; it actually means the opposite of what people often think.



And away we go with the outright misogyny.

How is that misogynistic? Baby lives, you loose responsibility and continue a shitty hookup culture lifestyle . Win win

[Calfredd]

Bullshit. That bond is the strongest relationship on this planet. If you just can't handle the financial responsibility then put it up for adoption. Other wise the choice is out of pure selfishness and a disconnect from real femininity.

Again, you are not pro-life but pro-birth. You want to fight for the right to force pregnancies to term but once they are born you stop caring.

[Elegiac]

How is that misogynistic? Baby lives, you loose responsibility and continue a shitty hookup culture lifestyle . Win win

How many kids have you adopted, Varx.

[Varx]

Also assuming that male parents cannot have an equally if not stronger bond, so add misandry and heteronormativity to that pile.

Men need feminism because people like Varx exist.

A father will never have the same bond a BABY has with the mother. Not saying a father won't die for their baby. Use a little nuance please

[Endus]

No because principals don't always apply to 100 percent of a demographic. But we can't base society off of the few,

If they don't, then they aren't true, and must be discarded.

How do you not understand this?

If you say "all Biffs are Boffs" and then you find a single Biff that isn't a Boff, you've proven the initial "All Biffs are Boffs" to be false.

[Elegiac]

A father will never have the same bond a BABY has with the mother.

Okay. Prove it.

Quantify this bond. Grind the universe down to the finest powder and show us a mote of baby bond.

[Endus]

A father will never have the same bond a BABY has with the mother.

There is literally zero evidence supporting this. Your magical "bond" is just religious hokum, not reality.

[Darththeo]

A father will never have the same bond a BABY has with the mother. Not saying a father won't die for their baby. Use a little nuance please

Talk to someone whose mother abandoned them and left them with their father.

And shut up about things you do not have an inkling of understanding.

[Edge-]

A father will never have the same bond a BABY has with the mother.

Do all fathers have the same bond?

Or is this whole thing a whole bunch of fuzzy wuzzy feely weely bullshit because every argument you have is awful and lacking in any critical evaluation lol