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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    How is that misogynistic? Baby lives, you loose responsibility and continue a shitty hookup culture lifestyle . Win win
    Claiming that women who abort have a "disconnect from real femininity" is a statement that implicitly argues that women's "real purpose" is to be brood mares first and foremost.

    That's deeply misogynistic.

    This isn't hard. You're being misogynist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Again, you are not pro-life but pro-birth. You want to fight for the right to force pregnancies to term but once they are born you stop caring.
    Funny enough miss Hawkins debunked this shit argument too.

    You got to choose.your battles.

    I'm fighting for pro life. Someone else needs to fight the adoption system battle. Which I would fully support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Do all fathers have the same bond?

    Or is this whole thing a whole bunch of fuzzy wuzzy feely weely bullshit because every argument you have is awful and lacking in any critical evaluation lol
    Tell you what though, this thread is doing an excellent job of proving the assertion that most vocal "atheists" are just reactionary shitheads that distanced themselves from religion so they could hate on Muslims without being called hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Do all fathers have the same bond?

    Or is this whole thing a whole bunch of fuzzy wuzzy feely weely bullshit because every argument you have is awful and lacking in any critical evaluation lol
    I personally seen a teenager go through hell to get her mother out of her life, because her mother was abusive and controlling.
    While all her father wanted was her to be safe and happy.

    But, yep, totally impossible for a father to have a stronger bond with a child than a mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Someone else needs to fight the adoption system battle.
    Sounds like you're just shirking responsibility for the sake of convenience, habibi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Do all fathers have the same bond?

    Or is this whole thing a whole bunch of fuzzy wuzzy feely weely bullshit because every argument you have is awful and lacking in any critical evaluation lol
    Of course not because we've noted not once in his endless prattling did he mention the result of a pregnancy being a man's fault. Deadbeat Dad's are OK for guys like Varx -- its only evil women and their "hook up culture" who are to blame for unwanted pregnancies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Claiming that women who abort have a "disconnect from real femininity" is a statement that implicitly argues that women's "real purpose" is to be brood mares first and foremost.

    That's deeply misogynistic.

    This isn't hard. You're being misogynist.
    The meaning of life is to bare kids. That's literally in your DNA. So yeah from a basic biological standpoint a woman's purpose is to beat a child and a man's is to spread his seed.

    Obviously we're not mindless animals and human life is much more complex and meaningful than that. But having a child remains the ultimate achievement ment anyone can ever do.

    You education and achievements don't mean shit when you die alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    The meaning of life is to bare kids. That's literally in your DNA. So yeah from a basic biological standpoint a woman's purpose is to beat a child and a man's is to spread his seed.
    We kinda stopped giving a shit about biological purpose the instant we started domesticating crops. "Biological purpose" is, again, just pseudo-religious hokum that you're tossing out because you can't ethically justify your position.

    Also way to hate on queer people, by the way. Misogyny *and* homophobia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Of course not because we've noted not once in his endless prattling did he mention the result of a pregnancy being a man's fault. Deadbeat Dad's are OK for guys like Varx -- its only evil women and their "hook up culture" who are to blame for unwanted pregnancies.
    Lmao, the only way pregnancy is a man's fault is in the case with rape....

    As a woman, you choose your sexual partners, when to fuck them, and whether or not they use contraception in conjunction to hers so pregnancy 100% falls on her. Agains, outside of rape

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    The meaning of life is to bare kids. That's literally in your DNA. So yeah from a basic biological standpoint a woman's purpose is to beat a child and a man's is to spread his seed.

    Obviously we're not mindless animals and human life is much more complex and meaningful than that. But having a child remains the ultimate achievement ment anyone can ever do.

    You education and achievements don't mean shit when you die alone
    This again is a misogynistic argument as well as flawed.

    If we are not mindless animals, than why is the greatest thing we can do something even mindless animals do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Lmao, the only way pregnancy is a man's fault is in the case with rape....

    As a woman, you choose your sexual partners, when to fuck them, and whether or not they use contraception in conjunction to hers so pregnancy 100% falls on her. Agains, outside of rape
    It takes two people to make a child. Pregnancy is as much the man's fault as the woman's.

    You are objecting to being called a misogynist, but you sure love their talking points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Lmao, the only way pregnancy is a man's fault is in the case with rape....

    As a woman, you choose your sexual partners, when to fuck them, and whether or not they use contraception in conjunction to hers so pregnancy 100% falls on her. Agains, outside of rape
    And there we have it. Complete misogynistic bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Lmao, the only way pregnancy is a man's fault is in the case with rape....
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Funny enough miss Hawkins debunked this shit argument too.

    You got to choose.your battles.

    I'm fighting for pro life. Someone else needs to fight the adoption system battle. Which I would fully support.
    Right, You fight for unwanted births and don't care about the consequences of what you fight for, because that's someone else's problem. At least you admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Sounds like you're just shirking responsibility for the sake of convenience, habibi.
    No it's true. You can't put all your energy in every single issue on earth. You'd get nothing done.

    Are breast cancer causes shit heads because they're not tackling testicular cancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    You are giving it too much credit with that response.
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    Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Right, You fight for unwanted births and don't care about the consequences of what you fight for, because that's someone else's problem. At least you admit it.
    Please reference up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    The meaning of life is to bare kids. That's literally in your DNA.
    1> Religious argument, yet again. There is no "meaning" to life. Other than what an individual makes for themselves, at least.
    2> That doesn't exist anywhere in your DNA, either.
    3> I'm gonna skip over the Freudian slip out of politeness.

    So yeah from a basic biological standpoint a woman's purpose is to beat a child and a man's is to spread his seed.
    These Freudian slips are making it harder to not point them out.

    Obviously we're not mindless animals and human life is much more complex and meaningful than that. But having a child remains the ultimate achievement ment anyone can ever do.
    1> Humans are animals, definitively.
    2> Tons of animals aren't "mindless".
    3> Human life isn't particularly more "meaningful" than any other creature's. Maybe more meaningful to ourselves, from a species survival stance, but there's north of 8 billion of us and that's not a concern.
    4> You're back to religious argument here talking about "meaning" and "ultimate achievement". None of that comes out of secular reasoning. It's wholly, deeply religious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    You education and achievements don't mean shit when you die alone
    But you can still die alone even if you have a family because death doesn't schedule visits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    No it's true. You can't put all your energy in every single issue on earth. You'd get nothing done.

    Are breast cancer causes shit heads because they're not tackling testicular cancer?
    Not in the slightest, because they aren't advocating a position that would result in more cases of testicular cancer the same way pro-lifers do with adoption.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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