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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    I mean they say the same thing about your arguement. Just they argue " its life". Issue is there are more of them then you.
    Show that there are.

    If there's such a massive amount of folks that approve of this, you should be able to show that. All evidence presented has shown you to be full of shit, but here's a chance for you to show your work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Show that there are.

    If there's such a massive amount of folks that approve of this, you should be able to show that. All evidence presented has shown you to be full of shit, but here's a chance for you to show your work.
    I'm more interested in how it's even relevant, on how many agree with him. But sure, I guess it's an interesting statistic?
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    Former Texas "Right to Life" director sentenced to 5 years in prison for attempting to meet with a 13 year old for sex.

    https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/m...n-17788511.php



    Crazy that pro lifers keep being caught with children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    I mean they say the same thing about your arguement. Just they argue " its life". Issue is there are more of them then you.
    Given the recent failure of ballot measures seeking to restrict access to reproductive health care in deep red states, this is a fairly easily dismissed statement absent a link to support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    I mean they say the same thing about your arguement. Just they argue " its life". Issue is there are more of them then you.
    I don't care what they say. I care what they can rationally justify, with legitimate arguments based on reason and evidence. As I already have, for my own position.

    They can go on being factually and irrationally wrong, and that's not ever going to convince me to believe anything they say. Nor does it mean anyone should listen to them; because until they can rationally defend their position, they don't have a valid argument.

    And I've already demonstrated there aren't "more of them than there are of us". That's just objectively false, by all polling accounts, as I've already demonstrated.

    You don't get to make up your own "facts" and pretend they're reality.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    Issue is there are more of them then you.
    This is objectively not true. Abortion has enjoyed a majority support for decades, Republicans have been so unable to get Anti-Abortion ballet measures passed in their Red states that they've decided to just ignore their own voters and pass the measures anyway.

    Unless this is the same 'silent majority' who was going to usher in a slamdunk election win for Trump.

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    Also if there were 'more of them than us', then the last Midterms wouldn't have been such a flop, they wouldn't have lost the popular vote in the last four presidential elections, and they wouldn't need to keep (badly) cheating to win their elections. Republican policies are objectively, factually, and utterly unpopular by most of the voting population.

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    Pro lifers have not offered up a single original argument in the last 60 years. It's all the same two toned BS. It's either religion based, or some arbitrary "feeling" about who does and doesn't deserve specific rights. If a pro lifer offered an ORIGINAL argument that wasn't the same two tired old lines, it might be worth considering for a moment. But not a single one has an original thought in their head.

    But that's ultimately what all right wing positions boil down to: Lack of originality, vomiting up someone else's words. The right says the left can't meme, but the only right wing memes all boil down to the same old insult repeated ad nauseum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Yeah well, you'll probably be surprised to hear that abortion is still illegal in Germany. We do have a lot of exceptions so pretty much nobody is actually thrown into jail for it. Still sad and to be quite honest irritating as hell.
    It pretty much is how it works in much of the developed world. Tons of exceptions but no actual universal right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    It's still considered a crime, even if the abortion is performed under the exemptions listed? Just, a crime without any penalties?

    No, that can't be. The wording used in the exemptions states "is not unlawful if..."
    "not unlawful" means that while the act is still a crime there are circumstances that vindicate you doing it anyway. Legal language is tricky.

    §218a (2), (3) and (4) are exemptions for medical reasons and rape.

    But, here comes the kicker, §218a (1) baysically says "so you want to terminate the pregnancy and have been counselled by a physician, got the certificate about it and the termination is performed by a physician within 12 weeks of conception... yeah, well, hun... that's not an abortion."

    Our law's fucked up in my opinion. §218 needs to be repealed.

    This is one of the very few things East Germany got right btw, the start of its abortion law read "Equal rights for women in education and work; Marriage and family require that the woman can decide for herself about the pregnancy and whether to carry it to term. The realization of this right is inextricably linked to the growing responsibility of the socialist state and all its citizens for the constant improvement of women's health protection, for the promotion of the family and the love of children."

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wS2bd5y2tNc

    Love how young people are still fighting the fight.

    Funny how when you confront libbies on their flimsy logic they either A. Get hostile or B. Walk away with their tails between their legs.

    Keep spreading awareness so that the removal of rvw doesn't end there. Wasnt that long ago when I was a die hard liberal, thinking that loss of abortion rights would lead to a handmaid's tale dystopian future. LOL good times.


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    Only 10 pages is being optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeatBlast View Post
    This nonsense again? Can it just be nipped in the bud early instead of turning into another 10 page shitfest?
    Saving innocent lives is nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Saving innocent lives is nonsense?
    Let us know when killing the mother by not allowing abortions is saving lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    If caring for the unborn makes me close minded then I lost those keys years ago. Now I say GOOD NIGHT SIR
    When you Conservatives start caring as much about the born as you care about the unborn maybe your arguments will hold more fucking weight.

    Fund school lunch programs, healthcare for pregnant women and children, etc. Children are starving, dying of preventable diseases, women are dying during childbirth. Conservative states have incredibly poor healthcare outcomes in general, high infant mortality rates, etc. Your fucking public policies are killing countless people.

    Of course looking at your post history it's clear you've never had an ounce of compassion for living people. Much easier to blather on about abortions, because the unborn don't make any demands. Once they're born you can look away and bury your head in the sand and blame their parents for the crimes of having sex or being poor.

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    And with that the thread falls into another deathly calm, until either the 'totally not my alt' low post count guy comes back or we get to hear the delightful(/s) news of yet another tragic incident that could've been assuaged by access to abortion and/or affordable reproductive medical care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Saving innocent lives is nonsense?
    When guns are heavily regulated or banned I'll take the right seriously when they pretend to care about innocent lives.

    Only reason the US hasn't turned into Handmaid's Tale is because of the liberals. If the GOP had their way unbarred, women would all be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. It's why the GOP is trying so hard to get rid of liberals, they can't have their fascist utopia when more than half the nation opposes their radical views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    And with that the thread falls into another deathly calm, until either the 'totally not my alt' low post count guy comes back or we get to hear the delightful(/s) news of yet another tragic incident that could've been assuaged by access to abortion and/or affordable reproductive medical care.
    Or when yet another pro-lifer is arrested for being a pedo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Only reason the US hasn't turned into Handmaid's Tale is because of the liberals.
    I'll once again take this opportunity to remind readers that Missouri adopted a dress code requiring women to cover their shoulders and elbows - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...over-shoulders

    Which was never actually a problem to begin with. Though I guess some dudes down there are just incapable of focusing on their very serious legislative work if those sluts are distracting all the men with those scandalous shoulders and elbows.

    Remember how Jeff Bridges character in RIPD (of course you don't, nobody remembers that movie) had a thing for ankles? Same shit, yo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wS2bd5y2tNc

    Love how young people are still fighting the fight.

    Funny how when you confront libbies on their flimsy logic they either A. Get hostile or B. Walk away with their tails between their legs.

    Keep spreading awareness so that the removal of rvw doesn't end there. Wasnt that long ago when I was a die hard liberal, thinking that loss of abortion rights would lead to a handmaid's tale dystopian future. LOL good times.


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    LOL, fucking morons from Students for Life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    LOL, fucking morons from Students for Life?
    Students for Life because they'll never fucking graduate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    LOL, fucking morons from Students for Life?
    They're students for life because they aren't smart enough to ever graduate.

    EDIT: Apparently we both had that same thought.

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