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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    This is your brain on right wing American politics (and probably coke).
    Honestly, it's a pretty common talking point among pro-birth shitbags that "If you have the right to murder your baby in the womb, why not let people murder them after they're born?! Checkmate, libruls!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Looks like he needed a mid-speech bump.

    But this is hardly the first time a Republican has made it clear that they have absolutely zero understanding of human biology and reproductive systems. These are the type of folks that claim the female orgasm is a myth because they've literally never actually pleased their partner in their lives.

    This is big, "Where is the clitoris?" energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    This is your brain on right wing American politics (and probably coke).
    Ok, that just brings back memories of South Park where Cartman's mom is wanting to abort him asking for something like a 43rd trimester abortion.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    This is your brain on right wing American politics (and probably coke).


    The crowd during this speech.

    Here is another angle: https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1631703815228407808

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    Damn, I guess finding out the organizer likes to grope young men did some considerable damage.

    Shame that's what it took, but hey, it's nice to see it dwindling in popularity even if it's just for a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Damn, I guess finding out the organizer likes to grope young men did some considerable damage.

    Shame that's what it took, but hey, it's nice to see it dwindling in popularity even if it's just for a year.
    I like how groping this one guy is what did it, and not the groping/fucking of children for many of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Damn, I guess finding out the organizer likes to grope young men did some considerable damage.

    Shame that's what it took, but hey, it's nice to see it dwindling in popularity even if it's just for a year.
    Just goes to show. It's not what you grope (children), it's who you grope (an adult).
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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post


    The crowd during this speech.

    Here is another angle: https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1631703815228407808
    Biggest crowd ever. No one has ever had a bigger crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Damn, I guess finding out the organizer likes to grope young men did some considerable damage.

    Shame that's what it took, but hey, it's nice to see it dwindling in popularity even if it's just for a year.
    Wat

    /10wats

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Pretty sure Liberals exist in the US because Conservatives aren’t trying to get rid of them. That would in and of itself be pretty un-Conservative. Pretty un-Liberal too but that’s neither here nor there.
    Conservatives are pro birth. Not at all, ever, pro life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Conservatives are pro birth. Not at all, ever, pro life.
    Have you seen the maternal and infant death rates in red states? The only thing they're pro for in regards to pregnancy is huge medical bills.

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    Walgreens said it won't distribute abortion pills in states where Republican officials have threatened legal action — including some places where abortion is still legal and available.
    https://twitter.com/NPR/status/16329...Z5DJhYShA&s=19

    Hmm? Didn't see this until now.

    Idk why Walgreens would even want to go here. Once again pro choice is popular. Blue states have financial pill here. California already stopped business.

    I guess the decided the hit was minimal or worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post

    Idk why Walgreens would even want to go here.
    Because money > all. It's why conservatives pissing themselves in outrage over "woke corporations" is, and always will be, utter dogshit. A company will do what they think will benefit their bottom line the most. In this case, it's probably much easier to simply stop selling a product than have to worry about paying lawyers to fight a legal battle over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Because money > all. It's why conservatives pissing themselves in outrage over "woke corporations" is, and always will be, utter dogshit. A company will do what they think will benefit their bottom line the most. In this case, it's probably much easier to simply stop selling a product than have to worry about paying lawyers to fight a legal battle over it.
    Gotta figure the profit margins on those particular pills aren't spectacular, so just not selling them is such a marginal hit to their overall margins that it's completely insignificant. And this way, they avoid possible legal complications.

    Because they're an utterly soulless corporation. Most capitalist will gladly work with people who enslave children in unsafe conditions, you think the Republicans will give them a moment's pause?


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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Because money > all. It's why conservatives pissing themselves in outrage over "woke corporations" is, and always will be, utter dogshit. A company will do what they think will benefit their bottom line the most. In this case, it's probably much easier to simply stop selling a product than have to worry about paying lawyers to fight a legal battle over it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Gotta figure the profit margins on those particular pills aren't spectacular, so just not selling them is such a marginal hit to their overall margins that it's completely insignificant. And this way, they avoid possible legal complications.

    Because they're an utterly soulless corporation. Most capitalist will gladly work with people who enslave children in unsafe conditions, you think the Republicans will give them a moment's pause?
    Well I'm just Woke and all about the Cancel Culture I guess. My thoughts on if people were going to take their business elsewhere, not on the profit of the abortion pill itself.

    Oh damn I'm also a Classical Liberal too, thinking that maybe people who do business but see this as infringement would hurt Walgreen's enough to make this a bad news. I'm with both of you they made that calculation. Back to my Cancel Culture or Liberalism here, I just warn and sadly this falls on women they are playing with fire but letting companies take their rights away bit by bit. People thinking that they sorta won even if Dobbs ruled is silly. Good luck I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    https://twitter.com/NPR/status/16329...Z5DJhYShA&s=19

    Hmm? Didn't see this until now.

    Idk why Walgreens would even want to go here. Once again pro choice is popular. Blue states have financial pill here. California already stopped business.

    I guess the decided the hit was minimal or worth it.
    As someone who knows folk who have to deal with Walgreens' bullshit when it comes to addiction meds, this honestly doesn't surprise me lmao. They already allow their employees to refuse to provide prescriptions based on their personal beliefs, so them cow-towing to republican virtue signalling just seems par for the course.
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    https://apnews.com/article/women-sue...a55274cd097fa9

    Five women who said they were denied abortions even when pregnancy endangered their lives are suing Texas over its abortion ban, the latest legal fight against state restrictions since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade.

    The lawsuit filed Monday in state court said the Texas law, one of the strictest in the country, is creating confusion among doctors, who are turning away some pregnant women experiencing health complications because they fear repercussions.

    “Nobody should have to wait until they are at death’s door to receive health care,” said Nancy Northup, CEO of the Center for Reproductive Rights, which is providing legal representation for the women.

    Similar legal challenges to abortion restrictions have arisen in states across the country since the Supreme Court overturned the landmark 1973 decision establishing a constitutional right to abortion. As clinics have shuttered in Republican-dominant states with strict abortion bans, some patients have had to cross state lines.

    According to the Texas suit brought by the five women and two doctors, one woman, Amanda Zurawski, was forced to wait until she developed blood poisoning before being provided an abortion. The four others had to travel out of state to receive medical care for pregnancy-related complications after doctors recommended an abortion because of the deteriorating condition of the woman, the baby or a twin — care that could not be legally provided in Texas.

    “My doctor could not intervene as long as her heart was beating or until I was sick enough for the ethics board of the hospital to consider my life at risk and permit the standard health care I needed at that point,” Zurawski said Tuesday at a news conference, recalling her pregnancy after 18 months of fertility treatment with a baby she named Willow.

    The group wants clarification of the law, which they say is written vaguely and has made medical professionals wary of facing liability if the state does not consider the situation a medical emergency.

    In an email Tuesday, a spokesman for Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is “committed to doing everything in his power to protect mothers, families, and unborn children, and he will continue to defend and enforce the laws duly enacted by the Texas Legislature.”

    Doctors in the state now face felony criminal charges if they perform an abortion in all but limited cases in which the life of the patient is in danger.

    John Seago, president of the anti-abortion group Texas Right to Life, said the lawsuit dealt with very specific medical situations, two of which were cases that the existing law would have protected as a medical emergency. In those cases, he said he would consider the lack of intervention medical malpractice.

    “These doctors should not have waited,” Seago said, adding that Texas law does not require doctors to wait until a patient is near death.

    Seago said the other three cases, dealing with disabilities of the fetus or a recommendation from a doctor to abort one fetus to give a twin a better chance of survival, would have been prohibited from an abortion. He said there seems to be a disconnect with medical practitioners regarding what is permissible and providing clarification is important.

    Doctors in Texas are afraid to speak publicly about the situation for fear of retaliation, Dr. Damla Karsan said in the lawsuit, and “widespread fear and confusion regarding the scope of Texas’s abortion bans has chilled the provision of necessary obstetric care, including abortion care.”

    At the news conference, Anna Zargarian described how she flew from Texas to Colorado to get an abortion after her water broke prematurely. Doctors told her she could become dangerously ill and the fetus would likely not survive.

    “An already extremely difficult situation had an extra layer of trauma because of medical decisions that were made by lawmakers and politicians and not by me or based on best medical practice,” Zargarian said.
    Regardless of your position on the broader subject, it seems clear that the overly vague legislation Republicans keep passing consistently results in women being forced to endure suffering because hospitals are rightfully terrified of violating state law in these murky situations. For the sake of pregnant girls and women who face complications and the health care providers who may want to provide the necessary care but find themselves in a position where they are not sure they can do so lawfully, I hope Republicans at the very least take action to make these laws far more explicit and clear.

    Because the alternative is that these Republican legislatures are perfectly fine with the suffering as long as it achieves their goals of de-facto outlawing aspects of reproductive health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://apnews.com/article/women-sue...a55274cd097fa9



    Regardless of your position on the broader subject, it seems clear that the overly vague legislation Republicans keep passing consistently results in women being forced to endure suffering because hospitals are rightfully terrified of violating state law in these murky situations. For the sake of pregnant girls and women who face complications and the health care providers who may want to provide the necessary care but find themselves in a position where they are not sure they can do so lawfully, I hope Republicans at the very least take action to make these laws far more explicit and clear.

    Because the alternative is that these Republican legislatures are perfectly fine with the suffering as long as it achieves their goals of de-facto outlawing aspects of reproductive health care.
    I don't know if there is a political organization that hates women more than Republicans. And Republicans are going out of their way to make it more difficult to address abortion rights from a state ballot because they know they'll lose the referendums.

    https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/...t-initiatives/

    But recent abortion rights victories on ballot measures in six states — including conservative Kansas, Kentucky and Montana — have raised the stakes. Abortion rights supporters, emboldened by those victories, are gearing up to put more measures on the ballot. By requiring supermajorities and tightening signature rules, Republicans hope to make the task tougher.

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    “My doctor could not intervene as long as her heart was beating or until I was sick enough for the ethics board of the hospital to consider my life at risk and permit the standard health care I needed at that point,” Zurawski said Tuesday at a news conference, recalling her pregnancy after 18 months of fertility treatment with a baby she named Willow.

    This is the sad truth of the majority of late stage abortions, as demonstrated in Canada where it's just outright legal end of story. The women getting them are largely people who really wanted the child. They named them, they probably did prep work like setting up a room and getting clothing and bottles and toys and whatnot. They're already HUGELY traumatized by the fact that it's something they have to face at all, and it only gets worse when the local politician says "You're not dying hard enough yet. We know you won't get better, but we need to see you in some serious torture porn pain before we allow it, just in case."

  19. #5959
    Walgreen's trying to cover its ass.



    https://twitter.com/Walgreens/status...390721024?s=20

    Problem here is there is already a response by Kansas AG, who the voters voted back in August is saying that Walgreens will comply with some stupid 1873 indecency law that you can't distribute through the mail.



    https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status...762113029?s=20

    Walgreen's full of shit here. The caving to states who protected the right of women for fear or power having Republicans on their side.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    That's unfortunate as they were my go-to pharmacy. I myself will never personally be impacted by this decision, but I will still avoid going to their locations going forward.

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