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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    That'll surely make protecting the health of the mother and baby during delivery so much easier.

    Maybe Republicans should think of like, narrowing the language on these kinds of laws to prevent this kind of thing from happening elsewhere?
    Meanwhile, the maternal mortality rate in the US is getting worse.


    Per CDC, it grew by 38% in 2021.

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    Republican politicians -- So pro-life their polices result in the death rate of pregnant women going up 38%. That needs to be put on a T-shirt, coffee mug, key chain, and a massive billboard throughout the Red States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    Republican politicians -- So pro-life their polices result in the death rate of pregnant women going up 38%. That needs to be put on a T-shirt, coffee mug, key chain, and a massive billboard throughout the Red States.
    S.C. Republicans propose bill that could subject women who have abortions to the death penalty

    So pro-life, they'll kill you!

    Fucking clown show. Except it's not funny, at all, it's horrifying because these asshats are making policies to support their fucked up ideology.

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...lp-it-00087688

    Legislatures in Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Missouri, North Dakota, Ohio and Oklahoma are debating bills this session that would hike the filing fees, raise the number of signatures required to get on the ballot, restrict who can collect signatures, mandate broader geographic distribution of signatures, and raise the vote threshold to pass an amendment from a majority to a supermajority. While the bills vary in wording, they would have the same impact: limiting voters’ power to override abortion restrictions that Republicans imposed, which took effect after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year.

    After watching the pro-abortion rights side win all six ballot initiative fights related to abortion in 2022 — including in conservative states such as Kansas and Kentucky — conservatives fear, and are mobilizing to avoid, a repeat.
    A consequence of Republicans discovering that their extremist position on this topic is very unpopular when the voters actually get a say in the matter?

    Make it harder for the voters to get a direct say in the matter. And consequently, any matter hereon out.

    Republicans continue their long, proud tradition of complaining about how unfair democracy is that it doesn't favor their minority interests and positions and continue to do everything possible to circumvent or ignore it at nearly every turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...lp-it-00087688

    A consequence of Republicans discovering that their extremist position on this topic is very unpopular when the voters actually get a say in the matter?

    Make it harder for the voters to get a direct say in the matter. And consequently, any matter hereon out.

    Republicans continue their long, proud tradition of complaining about how unfair democracy is that it doesn't favor their minority interests and positions and continue to do everything possible to circumvent or ignore it at nearly every turn.
    I'm genuinely mystified as to why they think doubling down on an issue that very likely helped cost them a red wave last year is going to pay political dividends.

    Then again, we are talking about the same party who is actively courting another government shutdown despite the fact it has never, ever worked out for them electorally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I'm genuinely mystified as to why they think doubling down on an issue that very likely helped cost them a red wave last year is going to pay political dividends.

    Then again, we are talking about the same party who is actively courting another government shutdown despite the fact it has never, ever worked out for them electorally.
    I mean, it lines up. Republicans consistently hold/pass majority/plurality unpopular positions/bills while Democrats hold/pass majority/plurality popular position/bills. Republicans just benefit from a lot of things like having a whole-ass news channel that exists to do their PR/messaging for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I mean, it lines up. Republicans consistently hold/pass majority/plurality unpopular positions/bills while Democrats hold/pass majority/plurality popular position/bills. Republicans just benefit from a lot of things like having a whole-ass news channel that exists to do their PR/messaging for them.
    Even then, the messaging doesn't seem to be particularly effective in this case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I'm genuinely mystified as to why they think doubling down on an issue that very likely helped cost them a red wave last year is going to pay political dividends.
    Because if they fuck the system thoroughly enough, they don't have to worry about what voters actually want...and can cling to power regardless of how wildly unpopular everything they stand for is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Because if they fuck the system thoroughly enough, they don't have to worry about what voters actually want...and can cling to power regardless of how wildly unpopular everything they stand for is.
    They don't even have to fuck it thoroughly. All they have to do is screw it up enough and then refuse to do anything when Democrats get into power and then folks like tehdang and tentim will scream "but both sides are bad".
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  10. #6030
    Elevated Access recruits hobby pilots to fly abortion patients out of states with bans.

    For people trying to get to an abortion appointment several states away — maybe with just a few days’ notice — private flights can be game-changing.

    They can turn a multi-day drive into just a couple of hours, and they can take off much closer to a passenger’s home than a commercial airport. Elevated Access makes the flights free to passengers, who won’t have to purchase an expensive, last-minute plane ticket.

    And they’re virtually anonymous. Pilots only know a passengers’ first name and weight (to avoid exceeding small aircraft weight limits).

    “We don’t check ID because that’s not part of private aviation. There’s no ticketing or TSA or anything like that,” said Mike (not to be confused with Michael), the founder of Elevated Access. “If somebody feels like they need to use a fake first name, they can definitely do that.”

    “There are tons of little airports like this dotted all over,” Michael says. “I try to avoid the big airports. Usually, we fly into one that’s closer to where they live.”

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    This is probably one reason why states whom want total ban on abortions also want to prevent women from leaving the state if they are pregnant. Not that they have any business doing so, because what a woman does with her body is no one's business but her own.

    But I imagine this is gonna become an expensive service once enough people start taking them up on the offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    This is probably one reason why states whom want total ban on abortions also want to prevent women from leaving the state if they are pregnant. Not that they have any business doing so, because what a woman does with her body is no one's business but her own.

    But I imagine this is gonna become an expensive service once enough people start taking them up on the offer.
    The service is free of charge. I think it will stay that way. I am just not sure if they'll be able to keep up with demand.

    More than anything, this illustrates the difficulty of banning something which is legal in half the US states.

    Here is another one.

    California bill to protect doctors who mail abortion pills

    Here is a company that ship abortion pills worldwide. Including places where they are illegal. it is a non-profit based in Canada. Yes. They'll ship to Texas.

    https://www.womenonweb.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Here is a company that ship abortion pills worldwide. Including places where they are illegal. it is a non-profit based in Canada. Yes. They'll ship to Texas.

    https://www.womenonweb.org/
    There's only one thing to be done then, open all Texans mail to make sure it doesn't contain abortion pills. Obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    There's only one thing to be done then, open all Texans mail to make sure it doesn't contain abortion pills. Obviously.
    It's to protect society from the dangers of immoral behavior! And since this is from an obscenity law, let's throw away anything found that could be used as a sex toy. Anything that can be inserted into your body; gone. Chocolate and seafood contain aphrodisiacs, those are gone. Veggies can be used as sex toys. Those are gone. Gotta make sure society is as safe as possible you know! The Bible talks about incest; that's out as well. People have sex in cars out of wedlock, so no more buy cars from out of state!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...lp-it-00087688



    A consequence of Republicans discovering that their extremist position on this topic is very unpopular when the voters actually get a say in the matter?

    Make it harder for the voters to get a direct say in the matter. And consequently, any matter hereon out.

    Republicans continue their long, proud tradition of complaining about how unfair democracy is that it doesn't favor their minority interests and positions and continue to do everything possible to circumvent or ignore it at nearly every turn.
    I love Democracy!

    Change the law through legislation that may not be popular if put to a general election, then make a law that will make it harder for the law to ever get changed as a ballot measure.

    Anyways all the states names are F*cked for life. I do always caution that people really better not sleep on this. My state is all blue and kicking ass with progressive laws right now. But still a possibility we could go red and get effed just like these states. Minus I still believe in all my heart that one day they will do a Federal national ban.

    Sometimes being a single issue voter of pro-choice is worth going out to vote.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    I am waiting with bated breath for the picture of an OB/Gyn in handcuffs for aborting a fetus to save a woman's life to be splashed across the nation's newspapers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    I am waiting with bated breath for the picture of an OB/Gyn in handcuffs for aborting a fetus to save a woman's life to be splashed across the nation's newspapers.
    Read a story from a fairly hardcore "pro-lifer" who apparently needs to travel out of state to get reproductive health care since the fetus she's carrying has a genetic defect meaning that its brain won't develop properly and it is not viable.

    Because due to the laws in her state, she can't get the necessary health care there. And honestly, for these kinds of folks, I'm fairly indifferent to their physical and emotional suffering. Welcome to the consequences of your own actions and beliefs, fuckos.

  18. #6038
    Quote Originally Posted by Taifuu View Post
    It's to protect society from the dangers of immoral behavior! And since this is from an obscenity law, let's throw away anything found that could be used as a sex toy. Anything that can be inserted into your body; gone. Chocolate and seafood contain aphrodisiacs, those are gone. Veggies can be used as sex toys. Those are gone. Gotta make sure society is as safe as possible you know! The Bible talks about incest; that's out as well. People have sex in cars out of wedlock, so no more buy cars from out of state!
    You know gunplay is a fairly widespread kink. And I'm sure even moreso in Texas. Maybe ban guns as well?

  19. #6039
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    That's a fair point: If they're unaware they are pregnant and say, only pay for one fare on the train, can the train company come after them to collect the second fare after they find out they're now carrying a passenger, themselves?
    The new policy is that all women are presumed pregnant unless they are willing to submit to an on the spot pregnancy exam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    Imagine that, finding a idoit on Twitter riveting stuff that.
    People who fail to concretely define woke are a daily thing. Just a day ago McCarthy cried about the woke mob. It's become a meaningless buzz word that activates conservative monkey brain neurons when they see it. They hear "woke" and just immediately think it's something out to hurt them and their families. That's how brainwashed they are.

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