SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Captain N]

Ah I see someone's sock puppet has come to chum the waters.

[jonnysensible]

Ah I see someone's sock puppet has come to chum the waters.

3rd world incel white supremacist. Anyone who uses the term 'sexual marketplace' is a nonce for sure.

[Endus]

You create a market and of course more women will be human trafficking. Sex and porn industry have NEVER been such a big industry in the entire history of human being. You cannot truly differentiate them.

You keep making up bullshit and acting like I should believe it, when your few sources are laughably incoherent nonsense.

The fact is all the nations that legalize the sex work ending up with higher sex trafficking statistically. You are a liberal and an SJW of course you refuse to accept reality.

Literally just not a fact at all; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking

You're openly lying about the facts.

Do not sex first.

Taking abortion is not responsible. The fact is that the single mom increases from 6% in 1960s to 40% today (some nations like France even have 60%). That means statically abortions and the pill do not prevent single motherhood at all.

Why would I entertain puritanical religious extremist nonsense? You're not making an argument, you're just being openly ridiculous and misogynistic.

[hseetomuth]

3rd world incel white supremacist. Anyone who uses the term 'sexual marketplace' is a nonce for sure.

lol. i am not a white and neither incel. But sexual marketplace is very real. You refuse to accept there is a market does not mean it does not exist.

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Why would I entertain puritanical religious extremist nonsense? You're not making an argument, you're just being openly ridiculous and misogynistic.

I am an atheist and I never know anything about religion. So no, you are wrong.

[Endus]

I am an atheist and I never know anything about religion. So no, you are wrong.

There's no other reason to oppose premarital sex and the like. That's a religious conceit, entirely. You've lied about a lot of shit already, why would I believe you're not lying to my face here, too?

[hseetomuth]

That blog is literally a crazy-ass white supremacist conspiracy nutbar's blog. Full on anti-vaxxer "the global elites are coming to kill me" level conspiracy nut.

Anti-vaxxer. lol. I am not anti-vaxxer at all. I have taken 4 covid vaccines. And my last one was the biovalent booster shot with flu shot before January. Anti vaxxer lol.

I am all for science and statistics

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There's no other reason to oppose premarital sex and the like. That's a religious conceit, entirely. You've lied about a lot of shit already, why would I believe you're not lying to my face here, too?

Yes there is a lot of reasons to oppose premartial sex and extra material sex besides religious reason. First, there are tons of statistics shows the number fo sexual partners of women will only lead to unhappiness of marriage. Women are less likely to be unattached from sex due to evolutionary background.

The problem with premartial sex is that they randomly create children and that is a big problem to the society as a whole. That is why historically all human civilizations would focus on women being a virgin before marriage.

Also premartial sex and extramaterial sex spread sex diseases like HIV. Sex also comes with potential sexual violence against women. None of those reasons are religious reasons.

[Endus]

Anti-vaxxer. lol. I am not anti-vaxxer at all.

I didn't say you were an anti-vaxxer. I said the blog you linked to was run by an anti-vaxxer, since like half his articles about making up crazy-ass nonsense about the vaccine being used to control people and bring about a new world order.

I am all for science and statistics

You haven't pointed to any scientific basis for anything and none of your statistical claims hold up to the most basic scrutiny.

Yes there is a lot of reasons to oppose premartial sex and extra material sex. There are tons of statistics shows sexual partners of women will only lead to unhappiness of marriage.

Nah. At best, you're talking about women who have no idea how much better their relationship could be, and that's enforcing ignorance to control women, and that's not okay.

The problem with premartial sex is that they randomly create children and that is a big problem to the society as a whole. That is why historically all human civilizations would focus on women being a virgin before marriage.

This is both categorically false on the historical facts, and systemically wrong in the idea that having kids outside of marriage is a "problem for society" in any way whatsoever.

Most of those societies which expected virginity in women before marriage did so by treating those women as a tradeable commodity where virginity was a value factor. It was just pure misogyny and oppression of women, not a positive feature in any way whatsoever.

[hseetomuth]

I didn't say you were an anti-vaxxer. I said the blog you linked to was run by an anti-vaxxer, since like half his articles about making up crazy-ass nonsense about the vaccine being used to control people and bring about a new world order.



You haven't pointed to any scientific basis for anything and none of your statistical claims hold up to the most basic scrutiny.

I would like to see which one you are talking about. But again, all the statistics I get (not just from the US but from many other nations like china) shows that less than 1% of abortions come from rape and etc. Single motherhood also increases and that is also another undisputable fact.

[s_bushido]

Varx finally getting tired of the bans and resorting to alt accounts, I see.

Oh, is it Varx? I've been pretty successfully avoiding the bullshit he posts, so I'm not familiar with the style/talking points...

[Mekh]

Oh, is it Varx? I've been pretty successfully avoiding the bullshit he posts, so I'm not familiar with the style/talking points...

Varx is a big Andrew Tate fan and uses the same talking point yeah. Calls him "Top G" unironically.

[Endus]

I would like to see which one you are talking about. But again, all the statistics I get (not just from the US but from many other nations like china) shows that less than 1% of abortions come from rape and etc. Single motherhood also increases and that is also another undisputable fact.

And?

Abortion exists to end unwanted pregnancies. Not just pregnancies due to rape. I don't care if a girl had a wild night out at the bar and had sex with three random dudes and got pregnant and now wants an abortion; she should be able to get that abortion. Trying to disallow that is just misogyny and nothing more.

And single motherhood is a complex subject that is often misrepresented. For example; if you're conflating "unmarried women with children" with "single mothers", you're wrong and you either have no clue what you're talking about or are intentionally manipulating the facts. Single motherhood's also increased because women are free to work for themselves now, and don't need a man just for survival. That's a good thing. Single motherhood's also increased because women are empowered to leave shitty relationships with abusive dingdong shitheads; this is also a good thing. We quite likely need to do more to support single parents, but the rise of single mothers is not a negative thing overall. It's the natural result when women aren't forced into and barred from leaving unhappy marriages.

[hseetomuth]

Varx is a big Andrew Tate fan and uses the same talking point yeah. Calls him "Top G" unironically.

I do not watch andrew tate at all and I do not care. I am not Varx and I do not know what he does

[Ivanstone]

I would like to see which one you are talking about. But again, all the statistics I get (not just from the US but from many other nations like china) shows that less than 1% of abortions come from rape and etc. Single motherhood also increases and that is also another undisputable fact.

The majority of abortions are for married women who already have at least one kid. Raising kids is expensive and difficult to manage.

[hseetomuth]

The majority of abortions are for married women who already have at least one kid. Raising kids is expensive and difficult to manage.

Again, abortion is not the solution to your problem. Married women may use abortions for sex-selection and that is a big issue in nations like China and India.

In general, it is very safe to say abortion is overused.

[Endus]

Again, abortion is not the solution to your problem.

It literally is a solution to that problem. A pretty darned perfect one. There's no valid argument against that which does not boil down to a personal desire to subjugate women.

[Mekh]

Again, abortion is not the solution to your problem.

It's a solution to yours. Women can be less choosy if they don't run the risk of having to raise a child by someone as retarded as you. Suddenly, even you could stand a chance.

[hseetomuth]

It's a solution to yours. Women can be less choosy if they don't run the risk of having to raise a child by someone as retarded as you. Suddenly, even you could stand a chance.

It is not. There is no evidence for any nations that abortion will make women less choosy. Japan and China have legalized abortion and guess what? The standard of women went to roof. China has 15 million abortions and the rape cases reported by police are only 20k per year.

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It literally is a solution to that problem. A pretty darned perfect one. There's no valid argument against that which does not boil down to a personal desire to subjugate women.

Subjugate women lol. Said by same people who believe men and women have no differences. The biological differences decide the society to put more social pressures on women on birth. You can never get rid of that.

[Endus]

Subjugate women lol. Said by same people who believe men and women are no differences.

Oh, there are differences. They're not as immutable as people pretend, though, and there's no reason for any of those differences to have any legal relevance whatsoever.

If you're pushing to restrict or ban abortions, you're pushing to restrict women's ownership over themselves. That's an attack on women's rights and freedoms and only serves to subjugate them to some extent or another. There isn't an alternative interpretation; that's just a fact.

[Mekh]

It is not. There is no evidence for any nations that abortion will make women less choosy.

Imagine how much you gotta suck to not get any in this economy lol.

[hseetomuth]

Oh, there are differences. They're not as immutable as people pretend, though, and there's no reason for any of those differences to have any legal relevance whatsoever.

If you're pushing to restrict or ban abortions, you're pushing to restrict women's ownership over themselves. That's an attack on women's rights and freedoms and only serves to subjugate them to some extent or another. There isn't an alternative interpretation; that's just a fact.

Then there is a reason why society needs to restrict women on their sexual behavior. You cannot use the argument of "freedom" to be against your responsibility. Considering the low birth rate of the west, you are going to face demographical collapse due to that, it is very safe to say "freedom" argument is biologically wrong.


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Imagine how much you gotta suck to not get any in this economy lol.

Economy? Abortion and the pill and the sex industry are big capitalists industries.