Ah I see someone's sock puppet has come to chum the waters.
Ah I see someone's sock puppet has come to chum the waters.
“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
I watch them fight and die in the name of freedom. They speak of liberty and justice, but for whom? -Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor Kenway)
You keep making up bullshit and acting like I should believe it, when your few sources are laughably incoherent nonsense.
Literally just not a fact at all; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_traffickingThe fact is all the nations that legalize the sex work ending up with higher sex trafficking statistically. You are a liberal and an SJW of course you refuse to accept reality.
You're openly lying about the facts.
Why would I entertain puritanical religious extremist nonsense? You're not making an argument, you're just being openly ridiculous and misogynistic.Do not sex first.
Taking abortion is not responsible. The fact is that the single mom increases from 6% in 1960s to 40% today (some nations like France even have 60%). That means statically abortions and the pill do not prevent single motherhood at all.
lol. i am not a white and neither incel. But sexual marketplace is very real. You refuse to accept there is a market does not mean it does not exist.
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I am an atheist and I never know anything about religion. So no, you are wrong.
Anti-vaxxer. lol. I am not anti-vaxxer at all. I have taken 4 covid vaccines. And my last one was the biovalent booster shot with flu shot before January. Anti vaxxer lol.
I am all for science and statistics
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Yes there is a lot of reasons to oppose premartial sex and extra material sex besides religious reason. First, there are tons of statistics shows the number fo sexual partners of women will only lead to unhappiness of marriage. Women are less likely to be unattached from sex due to evolutionary background.
The problem with premartial sex is that they randomly create children and that is a big problem to the society as a whole. That is why historically all human civilizations would focus on women being a virgin before marriage.
Also premartial sex and extramaterial sex spread sex diseases like HIV. Sex also comes with potential sexual violence against women. None of those reasons are religious reasons.
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I didn't say you were an anti-vaxxer. I said the blog you linked to was run by an anti-vaxxer, since like half his articles about making up crazy-ass nonsense about the vaccine being used to control people and bring about a new world order.
You haven't pointed to any scientific basis for anything and none of your statistical claims hold up to the most basic scrutiny.I am all for science and statistics
Nah. At best, you're talking about women who have no idea how much better their relationship could be, and that's enforcing ignorance to control women, and that's not okay.Yes there is a lot of reasons to oppose premartial sex and extra material sex. There are tons of statistics shows sexual partners of women will only lead to unhappiness of marriage.
This is both categorically false on the historical facts, and systemically wrong in the idea that having kids outside of marriage is a "problem for society" in any way whatsoever.The problem with premartial sex is that they randomly create children and that is a big problem to the society as a whole. That is why historically all human civilizations would focus on women being a virgin before marriage.
Most of those societies which expected virginity in women before marriage did so by treating those women as a tradeable commodity where virginity was a value factor. It was just pure misogyny and oppression of women, not a positive feature in any way whatsoever.
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I would like to see which one you are talking about. But again, all the statistics I get (not just from the US but from many other nations like china) shows that less than 1% of abortions come from rape and etc. Single motherhood also increases and that is also another undisputable fact.
“There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”
And?
Abortion exists to end unwanted pregnancies. Not just pregnancies due to rape. I don't care if a girl had a wild night out at the bar and had sex with three random dudes and got pregnant and now wants an abortion; she should be able to get that abortion. Trying to disallow that is just misogyny and nothing more.
And single motherhood is a complex subject that is often misrepresented. For example; if you're conflating "unmarried women with children" with "single mothers", you're wrong and you either have no clue what you're talking about or are intentionally manipulating the facts. Single motherhood's also increased because women are free to work for themselves now, and don't need a man just for survival. That's a good thing. Single motherhood's also increased because women are empowered to leave shitty relationships with abusive dingdong shitheads; this is also a good thing. We quite likely need to do more to support single parents, but the rise of single mothers is not a negative thing overall. It's the natural result when women aren't forced into and barred from leaving unhappy marriages.
“There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”
It is not. There is no evidence for any nations that abortion will make women less choosy. Japan and China have legalized abortion and guess what? The standard of women went to roof. China has 15 million abortions and the rape cases reported by police are only 20k per year.
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Subjugate women lol. Said by same people who believe men and women have no differences. The biological differences decide the society to put more social pressures on women on birth. You can never get rid of that.
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Oh, there are differences. They're not as immutable as people pretend, though, and there's no reason for any of those differences to have any legal relevance whatsoever.
If you're pushing to restrict or ban abortions, you're pushing to restrict women's ownership over themselves. That's an attack on women's rights and freedoms and only serves to subjugate them to some extent or another. There isn't an alternative interpretation; that's just a fact.
Then there is a reason why society needs to restrict women on their sexual behavior. You cannot use the argument of "freedom" to be against your responsibility. Considering the low birth rate of the west, you are going to face demographical collapse due to that, it is very safe to say "freedom" argument is biologically wrong.
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Economy? Abortion and the pill and the sex industry are big capitalists industries.