SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/3akq...acement-theory

As Nebraska Republicans moved to ban most abortions in their state on Wednesday, one used arguments straight from the racist “great replacement” conspiracy theory to push for the bill’s passage.

Nebraska Sen. Steve Erdman argued that abortion had caused slow population growth in the state over the last half-century—and argued that it had hurt Nebraska economically.

“Our state population has not grown except by those foreigners who have moved here or refugees who have been placed here. Why is that? It’s because we’ve killed 200,000 people. These are people we’ve killed,” Erdman said during debate, after lamenting that if abortion had been illegal that would have resulted in more people who “could be working and filling some of those positions that we have vacancies.”

Ah yes, the racist as fuck "Great Replacement" theory.

Shocking that there's considerable overlap between the crowd of racist shitlords who believe this shit and the crowd that wants the government to have control over girls and women's bodily autonomy.

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/3akq...acement-theory

Ah yes, the racist as fuck "Great Replacement" theory.

Shocking that there's considerable overlap between the crowd of racist shitlords who believe this shit and the crowd that wants the government to have control over girls and women's bodily autonomy.

Not to mention the very next sentence, which is whining that if they had more desperate people, they'd have more unemployment and thus it'd be easier to find people to take shitty-ass abusive and exploitative jobs that nobody actually wants to take, which is essentially waxing poetic about the virtues of wage slavery.

[s_bushido]

Indeed. If we force people to have children, we will have more faces to press to the grindstone. A perfect plan!

[Rasulis]

Justice Department to take abortion pill fight to Supreme Court: Garland

The federal appeals court late Wednesday partially blocked an unprecedented ruling by a single federal judge in Texas last week would reverse the Food and Drug Administration's approval of mifepristone.

The appeals court granted the Justice Department's emergency request to put on hold U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk's decision to suspend the FDA's initial authorization of mifepristone back in 2000, citing the the statute of limitations.

However, the three-judge panel determined that other parts of Kacsmaryk's ruling, which suspends changes the FDA later made to mifepristone's approved use and halts distribution of the drug by mail, could still go into effect at the end of the day Friday.

The Justice Department on Thursday said it would take the fight over an abortion pill to the Supreme Court after an appeals court ruling that would restrict access to the widely-used abortion pill mifepristone.

The appeals court ruling was set to take effect early Saturday morning.

"The Justice Department strongly disagrees with the Fifth Circuit's decision in Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v. FDA to deny in part our request for a stay pending appeal. We will be seeking emergency relief from the Supreme Court to defend the FDA's scientific judgment and protect Americans' access to safe and effective reproductive care," Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement.

We also still have the Eastern Washington court order that the U.S. authorities not to make any changes that would restrict access to the abortion medication mifepristone in 17 Democratic-led states plus D.C. that sued over the issue. It's not getting any coverage in the news, but it is there.

Meanwhile, GOP politicians at national level and in swing states are running scared. Unfortunately, those in states with 70% GOP voters don't give a shit about them and kept pushing for more restrictive bans.

How scared? James Caan level of scared when Kathy Bates was going to break his legs in Misery.

Tim Scott says he would ‘definitely’ support 20-week abortion ban

Which would cover almost 99% of the abortion cases in the US.

[Nymrohd]

Tim Scott says he would ‘definitely’ support 20-week abortion ban

Which would cover almost 99% of the abortion cases in the US.

The thing that drives me crazy is that the extremely few people who have late term abortions (which in the majority of this 1% of cases means late in the second trimester and is by no means "late term") almost always have them because certain diseases are only diagnosed fairly late in a pregnancy. A late abortion is quite likely because the fetus is not viable and will either die soon after birth or live a very limited life while being an enormous emotional and financial drain to its parents (and on a pragmatic level, to society at large since that child will not produce much utility for society while taking out much of the productivity of two adults with it). Or more often there is a significant threat to the life of the mother and abortion is in most cases much safer than delivering a child that has no chance of survival. These are not people who want to have an abortion; they are people who are forced by tragedy to have one.
Or much more rarely they have them because their circumstances in life have suddenly changed dramatically and they no longer feel they can support a child. And more specifically in the US they may well have a later abortion simply because they struggled to find a provider and/or their financial situation made it hard for them to move to the providers' location at an earlier point. I think the smaller percentage is just people who are just not competent to make the decision early on (because they are far too young and have been hiding it out of panic, because of heavy substance abuse or because they live in a violent household and are terrified of their partner/spouse).

But hey, lets bring them to life so they can suffer.

[Mekh]

But hey, lets bring them to life so they can suffer.

It's an Evangelical thing. Birth them, baptize them, let them die to add them to God's army. That's all that counts.

[Nymrohd]

It's an Evangelical thing. Birth them, baptize them, let them die to add them to God's army. That's all that counts.

See the evangelicals are only a minority among the people who virulently oppose abortion. I think for many it is just misogyny; they want people to suffer through an unwanted pregnancy as punishment for having sex. For some it is probably just blind partisanship. And for others it is just that they were raised that way and were swayed by the extremely emotional propaganda and imagery.

[Mekh]

I think for many it is just misogyny; they want people to suffer through an unwanted pregnancy as punishment for having sex.

Not sure that makes sense though, because those late term abortions due to genetic defects and such almost exclusively happen with women who -want- those children, probably already had a name picked and everything.

[Nymrohd]

Not sure that makes sense though, because those late term abortions due to genetic defects and such almost exclusively happen with women who -want- those children, probably already had a name picked and everything.

Two points
a) they don't really care. Targetting the show called late term abortions seems like an easier win with independent voters that lets them both claim to be pro-forced birth and suggest they are "Reasonable" because they have managed to create this idea of people having abortions right before birth. It is very much about political posturing
b) in states with no abortion providers even people who may have decided on an abortion fairly early will still struggle to get one within a reasonable time frame. Someone that is low income and lives paycheck to paycheck can barely afford to take a sick day in order to travel to a neighbouring state so they can have an abortion. This may significantly delay when they have it until they save up or find other financial support and find a provider out of state. That can easily push someone from an abortion at the 10th week to the 20th week.

[Mekh]

Two points
a) they don't really care. Targetting the show called late term abortions seems like an easier win with independent voters that lets them both claim to be pro-forced birth and suggest they are "Reasonable" because they have managed to create this idea of people having abortions right before birth. It is very much about political posturing
b) in states with no abortion providers even people who may have decided on an abortion fairly early will still struggle to get one within a reasonable time frame. Someone that is low income and lives paycheck to paycheck can barely afford to take a sick day in order to travel to a neighbouring state so they can have an abortion. This may significantly delay when they have it until they save up or find other financial support and find a provider out of state. That can easily push someone from an abortion at the 10th week to the 20th week.

I mean, probably you are right and I'm wrong for trying to see a logical flaw in their policy, though deep down we all know there is no logic to begin with.

[Paranoid Android]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3akq...acement-theory



Ah yes, the racist as fuck "Great Replacement" theory.

Shocking that there's considerable overlap between the crowd of racist shitlords who believe this shit and the crowd that wants the government to have control over girls and women's bodily autonomy.

Saw this. Idk where this post should go. Mother Bleep!

Tell me the "both sides" of political parties? This party is about white supremacy. Why don't people get it. Plus I mean Nebraska, ummm yea.

Also besides white replacement he is talking about labor. I mean of course you need labor, but you can't tell me he acknowledges that just making kids if for a cheap labor force. Getting deep here but if Nebraska can't get people into their state for labor maybe fix your pro-labor, pro-living. Also immigration is needed, and sorry you fuckin Nazi' they are not all going to come from Europe to keep your white blood lines going.

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Saw this. Idk where this post should go. Mother Bleep!

Tell me the "both sides" of political parties? This party is about white supremacy. Why don't people get it. Plus I mean Nebraska, ummm yea.

Also besides white replacement he is talking about labor. I mean of course you need labor, but you can't tell me he acknowledges that just making kids if for a cheap labor force. Getting deep here but if Nebraska can't get people into their state for labor maybe fix your pro-labor, pro-living. Also immigration is needed, and sorry you fuckin Nazi' they are not all going to come from Europe to keep your white blood lines going.

This is the same party that was out there arguing that grandma and grandpa needed to sacrifice their lives by going out shopping during the pandemic to save the economy, so is it any surprise some of them also view children as little more than cogs on the economic wheel?

[Paranoid Android]

This is the same party that was out there arguing that grandma and grandpa needed to sacrifice their lives by going out shopping during the pandemic to save the economy, so is it any surprise some of them also view children as little more than cogs on the economic wheel?

Technically not part of this thread but look into the Child Labor laws being dismantled? Pro-Life?

So in large to keep on topic. The right truly does see women as child incubators and children as a tool to the labor force. Oh and that whole Nazi, white replacement thing.

[Varx]

This is the same party that was out there arguing that grandma and grandpa needed to sacrifice their lives by going out shopping during the pandemic to save the economy, so is it any surprise some of them also view children as little more than cogs on the economic wheel?

There's nothing wrong with being concerned about the number of the population, especially when you think about decades down the line.

Another sub issue that is effected by abortion.

Better to bring light to these potential crisis now instead of when it's too late.

We don't need a handmaid tale issue now do we? In regards to the population. Not the forced breeding, obviously.

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There's nothing wrong with being concerned about the number of the population, especially when you think about decades down the line.

Sure, if that's what they were talking about.

But it wasn't. They were specifically talking about the white population. Because they're white supremacist fucks.

Also, if you're including "they're important for the economy" in a discussion about having and raising children then that's kinda uh...fucked up?

Another sub issue that is effected by abortion.

It's absolutely not. If you're going to take the economic approach to this topic - which y'all usually recoil in horror from - the economics absolutely support bodily autonomy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/art...across-the-us/

Especially given the lack of support for social programs from the "pro-life" crowd that would actually result in longer term economic gains and reduced childhood poverty and suffering.

Better to bring light to these potential crisis now instead of when it's too late.

There's no crisis. Unless you're a white supremacist who is dedicated to keeping America white.

We don't need a handmaid tale issue now do we? In regards to the population. Not the forced breeding, obviously.

I mean...nice new PFP bro (lol the dude wants to fuck teenagers), but the fact that you think the handmaid tale issue is coming from anywhere other than the Republican party then I have many bridges to sell you at a steep discount, basically free!

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Sure, if that's what they were talking about.

But it wasn't. They were specifically talking about the white population. Because they're white supremacist fucks.

Also, if you're including "they're important for the economy" in a discussion about having and raising children then that's kinda uh...fucked up?



It's absolutely not. If you're going to take the economic approach to this topic - which y'all usually recoil in horror from - the economics absolutely support bodily autonomy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/art...across-the-us/

Especially given the lack of support for social programs from the "pro-life" crowd that would actually result in longer term economic gains and reduced childhood poverty and suffering.



There's no crisis. Unless you're a white supremacist who is dedicated to keeping America white.



I mean...nice new PFP bro (lol the dude wants to fuck teenagers), but the fact that you think the handmaid tale issue is coming from anywhere other than the Republican party then I have many bridges to sell you at a steep discount, basically free!

Good luck proving MW wants to fuck teenagers. Don't hold your breath.... Libs will try and try again to stain great MW's name and fail miserably each and every time.


And the guy NEVER said anything about white population.

He was specifically talking about natural born citizens vs foreigners. There's nothing there about white supremacists, lmao

[Poopymonster]

But hey, lets bring them to life so they can suffer.

It's an Evangelical thing. Birth them, baptize them, let them die to add them to God's army. That's all that counts.

According to sadist Mother Teresa, that brings them closer to the lord.

[Shadowferal]

Billionaire Harlan Crow Bought Property From Clarence Thomas. The Justice Didn’t Disclose the Deal

The transaction marks the first known instance of money flowing from the Republican megadonor to the Supreme Court justice. The Crow company bought the properties for $133,363 from three co-owners — Thomas, his mother and the family of Thomas’ late brother, according to a state tax document and a deed dated Oct. 15, 2014, filed at the Chatham County courthouse.

The purchase put Crow in an unusual position: He now owned the house where the justice’s elderly mother was living. Soon after the sale was completed, contractors began work on tens of thousands of dollars of improvements on the two-bedroom, one-bathroom home, which looks out onto a patch of orange trees. The renovations included a carport, a repaired roof and a new fence and gates, according to city permit records and blueprints.

A federal disclosure law passed after Watergate requires justices and other officials to disclose the details of most real estate sales over $1,000. Thomas never disclosed his sale of the Savannah properties.

The disclosure form Thomas filed for that year also had a space to report the identity of the buyer in any private transaction, such as a real estate deal. That space is blank.

“He needed to report his interest in the sale,” said Virginia Canter, a former government ethics lawyer now at the watchdog group CREW. “Given the role Crow has played in subsidizing the lifestyle of Thomas and his wife, you have to wonder if this was an effort to put cash in their pockets.”

Ethics law experts said Crow’s intentions had no bearing on Thomas’ legal obligation to disclose the sale.

The justice’s failure to report the transaction suggests “Thomas was hiding a financial relationship with Crow,” said Kathleen Clark, a legal ethics expert at Washington University in St. Louis who reviewed years of Thomas’ disclosure filings.

revelation of a direct financial transaction between Thomas and Crow casts their relationship in a new light. ProPublica reported last week that Thomas has accepted luxury travel from Crow virtually every year for decades, including private jet flights, international cruises on the businessman’s superyacht and regular stays at his private resort in the Adirondacks. Crow has long been influential in conservative politics and has spent millions on efforts to shape the law and the judiciary.

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Fucker broke the law. Put him in a cell next to Trump.

[Paranoid Android]

The Florida House has approved a bill that would ban most abortions after six weeks, one of the nation's most restrictive. The bill now goes to Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has indicated his support.

RIP to Florida but possibly they will be our martyr on the national level. If(?) DeSantis gets the nomination should should be a huge blow and should be mentioned every time in any debate. I yearn that this will stick with voters and never sleep that this is a direct connection of Florida to a National Ban.

By Pew Research Florida by 56% favors abortion legal in all/most cases.. So once more right wing legislation against popular support.

[SoulForge]

So once more right wing legislation against popular support.

Shocking to no one. Abortion has like a 70% approval across the country? They don't give a shit. They have never cared about what people want.