SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Nymrohd]

All of this abject suffering could be avoided if Republicans actually gave a shit about tightening up the language and actually trying to protect life.

I don't think you can even tighten the language up though. It is just not possible to fully document all the different scenarios and make choices for every medical decision involved. Which is why pretty much every nation that has abortion restrictions with exceptions in threat of life/health explicitly TRUST doctors to make those decisions. Beyond a war against women this is and has always been a war against the medical profession, a war against science, a testament to idiocracy born of a deeply seated religious belief that knowledge and truth are only possible through a version of god.

[Edge-]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-abo...177f88172ce7b8

One woman had to carry her baby, missing much of her skull, for months knowing she’d bury her daughter soon after she was born. Another started mirroring the life-threatening symptoms that her baby was displaying while in the womb. An OB-GYN found herself secretly traveling out of state to abort her wanted pregnancy, marred by the diagnosis of a fatal fetal anomaly.

All of the women were told they could not end their pregnancies in Texas, a state that has enacted some of the nation’s most restrictive abortion laws.

Now, they’re asking a Texas court to put an emergency hold on some abortion restrictions, joining a lawsuit launched earlier this year by five other women who were denied abortions in the state, despite pregnancies they say endangered their health or lives.

More examples of the pointless, unnecessary physical, psychological, and emotional trauma Republicans are forcing women and girls to be subjected to. Even when they genuinely want to have a child but something goes horribly wrong during the pregnancy.

It's a great way to so thoroughly traumatize these women that many might never consider pregnancy again.

Once again given the lack of any action by Republicans despite these being stories that have been regularly popping up for months, the cruelty and intentional suffering of girls and women seems to be the point of Republican legislation on the subject.

[Rasulis]

After Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced he was investigating the clinic for providing gender-affirming care to trans teenagers, in a move that can only be described as awful, Dell Children’s hospital in Texas has closed its adolescent medicine department and fired all staff who were providing gender affirming care.

Unfortunately, the same specialists also provide care for autism, menstrual disorders, eating disorders, depression, etc.

After doctors left Dell Children’s adolescent clinic, Austin teens and their families are scrambling to find specialty care

There are currently no doctors practicing adolescent medicine within a 50-mile radius of Austin.

[Teriz]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-abo...177f88172ce7b8



More examples of the pointless, unnecessary physical, psychological, and emotional trauma Republicans are forcing women and girls to be subjected to. Even when they genuinely want to have a child but something goes horribly wrong during the pregnancy.

It's a great way to so thoroughly traumatize these women that many might never consider pregnancy again.

Once again given the lack of any action by Republicans despite these being stories that have been regularly popping up for months, the cruelty and intentional suffering of girls and women seems to be the point of Republican legislation on the subject.

They're not pro-life, they're anti-woman.

[Edge-]

After Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced he was investigating the clinic for providing gender-affirming care to trans teenagers, in a move that can only be described as awful, Dell Children’s hospital in Texas has closed its adolescent medicine department and fired all staff who were providing gender affirming care.

Unfortunately, the same specialists also provide care for autism, menstrual disorders, eating disorders, depression, etc.

After doctors left Dell Children’s adolescent clinic, Austin teens and their families are scrambling to find specialty care

There are currently no doctors practicing adolescent medicine within a 50-mile radius of Austin.

I'm beginning to think that Republicans genuinely don't care about children at all except as political cudgels, actually.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/presid...t-abortion-ban

Newly minted Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott is asked about his position on a 12-week abortion ban and response by saying the issue is working its way through courts before blaming Democrats for wanting late-term abortions for literally any reason (this remains a lie, btw) before oddly pivoting to China and North Korea. He notably didn't answer the question.

Then asked about a federal ban on abortions before complaining about how people keep talking about extremes and then complaining about Janet Yellen's comments on the topic during a hearing in regards to labor force participation. And then twists her words dishonestly.

He notably doesn't answer that question, either.

It's almost as if Republicans don't actually want to talk about their position on the issue or something because they know their positions are wildly unpopular even in many deep red states?

[Rasulis]

I'm beginning to think that Republicans genuinely don't care about children at all except as political cudgels, actually.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/presid...t-abortion-ban

Newly minted Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott is asked about his position on a 12-week abortion ban and response by saying the issue is working its way through courts before blaming Democrats for wanting late-term abortions for literally any reason (this remains a lie, btw) before oddly pivoting to China and North Korea. He notably didn't answer the question.

Then asked about a federal ban on abortions before complaining about how people keep talking about extremes and then complaining about Janet Yellen's comments on the topic during a hearing in regards to labor force participation. And then twists her words dishonestly.

He notably doesn't answer that question, either.

It's almost as if Republicans don't actually want to talk about their position on the issue or something because they know their positions are wildly unpopular even in many deep red states?

It's crazy.

For many families in the Austin area, Monge and her team had the answers they didn’t even know they needed as they dealt with unexpected complications of puberty and adolescence.

Dolina Logan Faulk was nervous about her daughter getting her first period, because she’d had difficult experiences with menstruation herself. But almost immediately, her daughter’s period was unlike anything she’d ever seen.

“It was like a biblical plague,” Logan Faulk said. “I couldn’t believe there was that much fluid in her body, and it just wouldn’t stop.”

Her 11-year-old daughter bled constantly for weeks while their pediatrician tried everything to stop it. Eventually, they sent the family to Dell Children’s adolescent health clinic.

There was more than a monthlong wait list at the time, but when they finally got in to see Dr. Mai-Anh Tran Ngoc, the doctor walked into the room in Hello Kitty tennis shoes with a whiteboard in hand.

“She’s just a fantastic human being,” Logan Faulk said. “She just drew us pictures and talked us through all of it, and was just so lovely and dear during the whole thing.”

They got her daughter on an intense regimen of hormonal birth control to try to stop the bleeding while they figured out what was going on. Logan Faulk said she had the nurses on speed dial, and they were in constant communication with the doctor.

And most important, the whole staff made sure her daughter didn’t feel any stigma or shame about what was happening with her body. Eventually, her daughter was diagnosed with a bleeding disorder called Von Willebrand disease, and they were able to figure out a treatment plan.

“I don’t know where we would be right now without them,” Logan Faulk said. “If this happened when my daughter was bleeding for five months, and there were suddenly no doctors, it kind of makes me cry a little bit to even think about.”

The sudden shakeup has thrust many families into immediate crisis mode. Hamand can hear the ticking clock: Her daughter has four months of birth control on hand, and then she’ll need to have another provider lined up to renew the prescription.

Dell Children’s referred her to their adolescent gynecology department, but with so many families looking for new doctors, she’s already worried about the waitlist. And that’s not even taking into account the relationship she’d cultivated with Tran and the whole staff.

“She was just so amazing,” Hamand said. “It was just easy. One thing about this was easy.”

She’s still waiting for more answers from Dell Children’s about what exactly led to this upheaval. And she’s disappointed to see the way these political debates are impacting the lives of Texans.

“I always thought the part about being more right-leaning is that the government stays out of your business,” she said. “That’s not at all what we’re doing anymore. It’s very much like, I know what’s best for your child.”

[The Stormbringer]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-abo...177f88172ce7b8

More examples of the pointless, unnecessary physical, psychological, and emotional trauma Republicans are forcing women and girls to be subjected to. Even when they genuinely want to have a child but something goes horribly wrong during the pregnancy.

It's a great way to so thoroughly traumatize these women that many might never consider pregnancy again.

Once again given the lack of any action by Republicans despite these being stories that have been regularly popping up for months, the cruelty and intentional suffering of girls and women seems to be the point of Republican legislation on the subject.

Inb4 Texas Republicans try to make it illegal for people to sue for this sort of thing. Because of course they won't learn their lesson, and will instead double down on being authoritarian assholes.

[Edge-]

“I always thought the part about being more right-leaning is that the government stays out of your business,” she said. “That’s not at all what we’re doing anymore. It’s very much like, I know what’s best for your child.”

In which people are just admitting they've never paid attention to what the Republican party does until it starts affecting them personally.

On the one hand I feel for her and her daughter and the family. Even under normal circumstances that's a scary ordeal to go through.

I'll never feel otherwise about the daughter, but the mother and maybe other adults if they've been voting Republican? Yeah, very conflicted. It's hard to feel bad for the, "I got mine, fuck everyone else." crowd when suddently they're part of the "everyone else" and thinking people should feel bad for them.

Big "I never thought the leopards would come to eat my families faces!" energy.

[Poopymonster]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-abo...177f88172ce7b8



More examples of the pointless, unnecessary physical, psychological, and emotional trauma Republicans are forcing women and girls to be subjected to. Even when they genuinely want to have a child but something goes horribly wrong during the pregnancy.

It's a great way to so thoroughly traumatize these women that many might never consider pregnancy again.

Once again given the lack of any action by Republicans despite these being stories that have been regularly popping up for months, the cruelty and intentional suffering of girls and women seems to be the point of Republican legislation on the subject.

The Texas line of thought goes something like this: The doctor could have aborted. It was their choice not to. Sound like you have a lawsuit.

Ignoring the rules are so intentionally nebulous that even with Lady Luck and Admiral Awesome on the medical team, the hospital would get sued.

[The Stormbringer]

The Texas line of thought goes something like this: The doctor could have aborted. It was their choice not to. Sound like you have a lawsuit.

Ignoring the rules are so intentionally nebulous that even with Lady Luck and Admiral Awesome on the medical team, the hospital would get sued.

Ah yes, more unnecessary medical confusion and lawsuits, something that will doubtlessly drive up the costs of health care and health insurance in the region, thus making it harder for more people to actually get said health care without going completely fucking broke.

But of course, as we know, the cruelty is the point. It's not about helping babies or anything like that, otherwise they'd actually give a shit about helping families. These misogynistic fucks are just still butthurt that they can't practically force a woman to live with them, take care of the cleaning, cooking, and have sex whenever they the men want it. Their fragile little egos can't stand competing against women in the market, or hate having to listen to women at their jobs, you name it. They're disgusting, pathetic worms and I hope and pray that they all get what's coming to them.

[Rasulis]

Ah yes, more unnecessary medical confusion and lawsuits, something that will doubtlessly drive up the costs of health care and health insurance in the region, thus making it harder for more people to actually get said health care without going completely fucking broke.

On that note.

Texans are collectively carrying the highest amount of medical debt in the country, a new report has revealed. The state's $14.6 billion in medical debt is far higher than Florida, which ranked second with $8.2 billion, according to the study by medication access company NiceRx.

And there is this.

Tarrant and Dallas Counties are the top two in the nation for medical debt per capita.

[The Stormbringer]

On that note.


And there is this.

Tarrant and Dallas Counties are the top two in the nation for medical debt per capita.

Ah yes, being broke just because you wanna fucking live. THE AMERICAN DREAM! Just the way god intended! Truly Texas is the most blessed state in this union.

[s_bushido]

but the mother and maybe other adults if they've been voting Republican? Yeah, very conflicted.

I'm not conflicted. Not anymore.

Maybe someone who had been hiding under a rock for the past few decades had plausible deniability. But with the million Covid deaths overseen by Republicans who refused to believe it was real and that the medical solutions to it were valid, and now doctors abandoning entire swathes of the population because reprehensible lawmakers are passing abhorrent laws... Well, how does the phrase go? "They are without excuse."

If these people want to actually have access to science-based medicine, they're going to have to choose between voting for a party that would happily see them dead if it means they get to stroke their pathetic religious boner, and voting for literally anyone else.

[Rasulis]

In reality, all the horror stories that we have heard about women almost losing their lives due to lack of access to abortion barely scratched the surface. Medical professionals providing that type of care can’t even talk publicly about what it means for their patients and themselves. Physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners, midwives, physician assistants, social workers, and other health care workers who provide obstetrics care in abortion ban states have been gagged by the hospitals and clinics they work for when it comes to abortion and the impact the bans are having on their patients.

The University of California, San Francisco’s Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health research program stepped into the breach, giving providers the ability to speak out through this anonymous survey. The research program released its first report from the survey.

It is pretty grim reading. Some snippets.

“I meet her 2 days later in the ICU. She was
admitted from the ER with severe sepsis…and
bacteremia. Her fetus delivers; she is able to
hold [the fetus]. We try every medical protocol
we can find to help her placenta deliver; none
are successful. She is now on 3 pressors and
in [disseminated intravascular coagulopathy].
The anesthesiologist cries on the phone when
discussing the case with me—if the patient
needs to be intubated, no one thinks she will
make it out of the OR. I do a D&C.”

Continuing to describe the case, the physician noted
that, unlike in a typical D&C, the patient “bleeds
from everywhere.” Miraculously, the patient did not
die. But even after this harrowing experience, the
patient expressed fear that she has broken the law
by ending her pregnancy. The physician recounted,
“She asks me: could she or I go to jail for this? Or
did this count as life threatening yet?”

“Anesthesiology colleagues refused to provide
an epidural for pain. They believed that
providing an epidural could be considered [a
crime] under the new law. The patient received
some IV morphine instead and delivered a
few hours later but was very uncomfortable
through the remainder of her labor. I will
never forget this case because I overheard
the primary provider say to a nurse that so
much as offering a helping hand to a patient
getting onto the gurney while in the throes of a
miscarriage could be construed as ‘aiding and
abetting an abortion.’ Best not to so much as
touch the patient who is miscarrying… A gross
violation of common sense and the oath I took
when I got into this profession to soothe my
patients’ suffering.”

“A [patient] came today seeking an abortion.
She traveled on an airplane for the first time
ever [from a state with an abortion ban], using
her whole paycheck to buy tickets, rent a hotel.
She left our clinic today by [emergency medical
services], transported to the local [emergency
department (ED)] for suicidal ideation. She
was raped two months ago. Each episode
of morning sickness causes [post-traumatic
stress disorder (PTSD)] so intense she tried
to take her life yesterday. If abortion was
legal in her home state, several things would
be different 1) she could have accessed an
abortion more promptly 2) perhaps therefore
she wouldn’t have had an escalation of PTSD
such that she tried to kill herself, [and] 3) she’d
have more money in her bank account, super
important given she’s a single parent and her
family who doesn’t support abortion even in
cases of rape, just kicked them both out. She
did not get her abortion in our clinic today
because she felt she was too emotionally
unstable, that she wanted to go to the ED first.
I fully support her decision to know herself
best, and to decide for herself. I fear for her
life, the ongoing pregnancy, her young child. I
fear she won’t have money to return and get
her abortion. I fear she could kill herself first.”

The whole damn thing is one horror story after another.

[Mekh]

In reality, all the horror stories that we have heard about women almost losing their lives due to lack of access to abortion barely scratched the surface. Medical professionals providing that type of care can’t even talk publicly about what it means for their patients and themselves. Physicians, nurses, nurse practitioners, midwives, physician assistants, social workers, and other health care workers who provide obstetrics care in abortion ban states have been gagged by the hospitals and clinics they work for when it comes to abortion and the impact the bans are having on their patients.

The University of California, San Francisco’s Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health research program stepped into the breach, giving providers the ability to speak out through this anonymous survey. The research program released its first report from the survey.

It is pretty grim reading. Some snippets.


The whole damn thing is one horror story after another.

It's what @tehdang gets off to. Fuck knows why. It's like nukes are for YUPPIE or crippling policy decisions for dribbles.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Wyoming abortion ban has failed days after being passed thanks to an amendment in their constitution made back in 2012 in response to Obamacare. The amendment, passed by Republicans, is basically "Competent adults get to make their own medical decisions".

Small government motherfuckers.

[s_bushido]

Wyoming abortion ban has failed days after being passed thanks to an amendment in their constitution made back in 2012 in response to Obamacare. The amendment, passed by Republicans, is basically "Competent adults get to make their own medical decisions".

Small government motherfuckers.

Honestly, the best part about that is their argument that "abortion isn't healthcare" in that law, and their argument that it is in the law about the abortion pill...

[The Stormbringer]

Wyoming abortion ban has failed days after being passed thanks to an amendment in their constitution made back in 2012 in response to Obamacare. The amendment, passed by Republicans, is basically "Competent adults get to make their own medical decisions".

Small government motherfuckers.

Inb4 they use this to try and force pregnant minors to carry pregnancies to term, no matter what...

[Edge-]

Wyoming abortion ban has failed days after being passed thanks to an amendment in their constitution made back in 2012 in response to Obamacare. The amendment, passed by Republicans, is basically "Competent adults get to make their own medical decisions".

Small government motherfuckers.

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions rearing their ugly head once again.

Damn man, it's a shame they're so incapable of critical or longterm thinking as a party that the end up with self-owns like this. Actually not a shame, it's wonderful since the consequences are beneficial for the people of Wyoming.

[Rasulis]

Wyoming abortion ban has failed days after being passed thanks to an amendment in their constitution made back in 2012 in response to Obamacare. The amendment, passed by Republicans, is basically "Competent adults get to make their own medical decisions".

Small government motherfuckers.

Temporary stay for now. Heading to the State Supreme Court. All GOP appointees. Are there any providers left in Wyoming? Even with the temporary stay, the law may have effectively cut off access to abortion in Wyoming.

Doctors ARE leaving abortion ban states.

Abortion bans drive off doctors and close clinics, putting other health care at risk

The concern about repercussions for women's health is being raised not just by abortion rights advocates. One recent warning comes from Jerome Adams, who served as surgeon general in the Trump administration and is now working on health equity issues at Purdue University in Indiana.

In a recent tweet thread, Adams wrote that "the tradeoff of a restricted access (and criminalizing doctors) only approach to decreasing abortions could end up being that you actually make pregnancy less safe for everyone, and increase infant and maternal mortality."

This year, Americans United for Life and Democrats for Life of America put out a joint position paper urging policymakers to "make birth free." Among their suggestions are automatic insurance coverage, without deductibles or copays, for pregnancy and childbirth; eliminating payment incentives for cesarean sections and in-hospital deliveries; and a "monthly maternal stipend" for the first two years of a child's life.

"Making birth free to American mothers can and should be a national unifier in a particularly divided time," says the paper. Such a policy could not only make it easier for people to start families, but it could address the nation's dismal record on maternal mortality.

But a make-birth-free policy seems unlikely to advance very far or very quickly in a year when the same Republican lawmakers who support a national abortion ban are even more vehemently pushing for large federal budget cuts in the debt ceiling fight.