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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Can the forced-mother drop off the hospital bills for the delivery at the same drop box too?
    We have universal health care, so hospital bills is something most people don't encounter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    The idea of having a place to drop off unwanted babies is not that new. But concerning the modern world I've only ever heard of it in the context of incubators outside hospitals who are ready to take care right away, not at a sodding post office.
    Correct, by medieval times Pope Innocent II had "baby barrels" installed at every village monestary/church. Not only to take care of unwanted children. But also to train elite soldiers for italians' fight the ancient enemy, Da Donkey Kong.
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    Texas judge allows Kate Cox to abort fetus with lethal abnormality

    For the first time in at least 50 years, a judge has intervened to allow an adult Texas woman to terminate her pregnancy.

    When Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble handed down the temporary restraining order Thursday, Kate Cox, 31, of Dallas burst into tears. Cox and her husband desperately wanted to have this baby, but her doctors said continuing the nonviable pregnancy posed a risk to her health and future fertility, according to a historic lawsuit filed Tuesday.


    Better be quick. Before some idiot files a stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Texas judge allows Kate Cox to abort fetus with lethal abnormality

    For the first time in at least 50 years, a judge has intervened to allow an adult Texas woman to terminate her pregnancy.

    When Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble handed down the temporary restraining order Thursday, Kate Cox, 31, of Dallas burst into tears. Cox and her husband desperately wanted to have this baby, but her doctors said continuing the nonviable pregnancy posed a risk to her health and future fertility, according to a historic lawsuit filed Tuesday.


    Better be quick. Before some idiot files a stay.
    The Great State of Texas actually arguing in court against the woman's request pretty much show that pro-lifers are uncaring and selfish jerks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    The Great State of Texas actually arguing in court against the woman's request pretty much show that pro-lifers are uncaring and selfish jerks.
    "It's not that they believe that, they're just bound to enforce the laws as they're written."

    Or something. I've still yet to hear a single explanation for why no Republicans have proposed amendments or updates to the laws that are resulting in their states being forced to defend them when women go to court asking for the state to allow them to receive health care they need.

    Update: https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...vis-county-tro

    TX AG Ken Paxton says, "Fuck your court orders, we'll prosecute the shit outta you if we want to and there's nothing you can do about it."

    Well that's sure cash money of him and the "great" state of Texas.

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    Did Paxton take a moment to tap-dance all over Sandra Day-Occonner's grave while on hiw way to mailing his threats to doctors and hospitals.






    Some breath taking Originalism here. /s

    Instead of putting unwanted babies in mail boxes. Women mind as well mail themselves... to California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    TX AG Ken Paxton says, "Fuck your court orders, we'll prosecute the shit outta you if we want to and there's nothing you can do about it."
    Kind puts the lie to the whole "the law doesn't prohibit that situation, the doctors are just saying it does because they're evil lefties who hate us" argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Kind puts the lie to the whole "the law doesn't prohibit that situation, the doctors are just saying it does because they're evil lefties who hate us" argument.
    How about "It's all Democrats scare tactic."

    I also like "We would put forth reasonable policies."

    Or, "No woman will be punished for having abortion."

    Black Ohio woman’s arrest after pregnancy loss begs the question, ‘What do you do after a miscarriage?’

    Never mind. She had a miscarriage. Not an abortion.

    Pregnant, poor and punished: Southern states take the lead in arresting expectant mothers

    Democrats don't need any scare tactics. GOP lawmakers are doing a fine job on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    How about "It's all Democrats scare tactic."

    I also like "We would put forth reasonable policies."

    Or, "No woman will be punished for having abortion."

    Black Ohio woman’s arrest after pregnancy loss begs the question, ‘What do you do after a miscarriage?’

    Never mind. She had a miscarriage. Not an abortion.

    Pregnant, poor and punished: Southern states take the lead in arresting expectant mothers

    Democrats don't need any scare tactics. GOP lawmakers are doing a fine job on their own.
    And ofc they are far more likely to move against black women than white ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    And ofc they are far more likely to move against black women than white ones.
    I'm sure they're also believers of the Replacement Theory conspiracy too. Gotta protect the future of white children, or however that racist screed goes. Ugh, these people disgust me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    I'm sure they're also believers of the Replacement Theory conspiracy too. Gotta protect the future of white children, or however that racist screed goes. Ugh, these people disgust me...
    Then they'd be ok with black women not having kids. Nah we have actual functional evidence that Racism is more important to them than Misogyny. What a sad world.

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    Ongoing in: Cruelty and misogyny is the Point


    It’s official — massively corrupt fascist Ken Paxton is seeking a writ of mandamus blocking the restraining order shielding Kate Cox and her doctors:

    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the state Supreme Court to intervene and stop a Dallas woman from having an abortion.

    Paxton’s office petitioned the high court just before midnight Thursday, after a Travis County district judge granted a temporary restraining order allowing Kate Cox, 31, to terminate her nonviable pregnancy. Paxton also sent a letter to three hospitals, threatening legal action if they allowed the abortion to be performed at their facility.
    This is the first time an actively pregnant adult woman has gone to court to get an abortion since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. A similar case was filed in Kentucky on Friday.
    In the petition, Paxton asked the Texas Supreme Court to rule quickly, saying that “each hour [the temporary restraining order] remains in place is an hour that Plaintiffs believe themselves free to perform and procure an elective abortion.”
    […]
    The central question is whether a lethal fetal anomaly qualifies a pregnant patient for an abortion under the narrow medical exception to the state’s near-total abortion ban. Cox’s lawyers argue that continuing this nonviable pregnancy poses a threat to her life and future fertility, thus necessitating an abortion.
    Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble agreed, saying it would be a “miscarriage of justice” to force Cox to continue the pregnancy. The state disagreed, telling the Supreme Court that Guerra Gamble’s ruling “opens the floodgates to pregnant mothers procuring an abortion” beyond the scope of the medical exception.


    “We cannot allow a woman to use the statutory exception because then other women may also use them” is a pretty good summary of what they’re worth. But hey, conservative women keep falling for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Ongoing in: Cruelty and misogyny is the Point


    It’s official — massively corrupt fascist Ken Paxton is seeking a writ of mandamus blocking the restraining order shielding Kate Cox and her doctors:

    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the state Supreme Court to intervene and stop a Dallas woman from having an abortion.

    Paxton’s office petitioned the high court just before midnight Thursday, after a Travis County district judge granted a temporary restraining order allowing Kate Cox, 31, to terminate her nonviable pregnancy. Paxton also sent a letter to three hospitals, threatening legal action if they allowed the abortion to be performed at their facility.
    This is the first time an actively pregnant adult woman has gone to court to get an abortion since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. A similar case was filed in Kentucky on Friday.
    In the petition, Paxton asked the Texas Supreme Court to rule quickly, saying that “each hour [the temporary restraining order] remains in place is an hour that Plaintiffs believe themselves free to perform and procure an elective abortion.”
    […]
    The central question is whether a lethal fetal anomaly qualifies a pregnant patient for an abortion under the narrow medical exception to the state’s near-total abortion ban. Cox’s lawyers argue that continuing this nonviable pregnancy poses a threat to her life and future fertility, thus necessitating an abortion.
    Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble agreed, saying it would be a “miscarriage of justice” to force Cox to continue the pregnancy. The state disagreed, telling the Supreme Court that Guerra Gamble’s ruling “opens the floodgates to pregnant mothers procuring an abortion” beyond the scope of the medical exception.


    “We cannot allow a woman to use the statutory exception because then other women may also use them” is a pretty good summary of what they’re worth. But hey, conservative women keep falling for it.
    Paxton is just trying to maintain Texas #1 position as the worst state to have a baby.

    Why Texas Is the Worst State to Have a Baby

    Texas ranks dead last in the country in caring for soon-to-be and new mothers. The high cost of care in North Texas, the nation’s worst health insurance rate, and a high infant mortality rate make the Lone Star State 50th for access to quality prenatal and maternal care.


    Now we can add women have to go to the State Supreme Court for abortion due to the mother's health risk.
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    And now we'll never see any of those pseudo-moderate "I'm pro-life, except when the mother's life is at stake"-posters in this thread ever again either.
    “There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”

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    Man...if the shit with Israel hadn't happened, I'd be so optimistic for 2024 because the GOP continues to saw off its own foot with this garbage. What do they honestly think they're accomplishing by demonstrating how malicious their """""pro-life""""" policies are over and over again? Is it really just to reassure their base that they're stopping the murder of babies? Because when you're talking about fetal non-viability and a threat to mother's life if the pregnancy continues...that ship has long since sailed. Especially since those are the exemptions they say they support when they're pretending to be reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    Texas Supreme Court has now granted a stay. The pregnant woman has to wait to get an abortion.

    Texas Supreme Court temporarily blocks pregnant woman from emergency abortion
    It is worth noting, the statements in Chonogo's quote are from the attorneys of the lady, not the Supreme Court. Just in case that seemed like an odd response to anyone else.

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    I am just going to say it, "Pro-Life" isn't really pro-life, especially when they prioritize a non-viable fetus over the life and health of the supposed mother. It's, as George Carlin said, Anti-Women. They want to inflict consequences on to women for women daring to have and enjoy sex, regardless if that sex is to create life or not.

    I've been starting to believe for a while now that pro-choice is the real pro-life.

    As having a choice to have access to birth control and abortion respects the autonomy of the person choosing to use them. Pro choice respects their mental health as the woman should have the choice to not have a baby as the result of rape and/or incest. Pro choice respects their physical health as sometimes a pregnancy is non-viable and can harm or even kill the pregnant woman in question if an abortion is not performed (IE the above case, or any ectopic pregnancy, miscarriage that doesn't flush out of the body). And pro choice respects the financial stability of the woman if they believe their current financial situation isn't stable enough to bring life in to the world and be able to take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    I am just going to say it, "Pro-Life" isn't really pro-life, especially when they prioritize a non-viable fetus over the life and health of the supposed mother. It's, as George Carlin said, Anti-Women. They want to inflict consequences on to women for women daring to have and enjoy sex, regardless if that sex is to create life or not.

    I've been starting to believe for a while now that pro-choice is the real pro-life.

    As having a choice to have access to birth control and abortion respects the autonomy of the person choosing to use them. Pro choice respects their mental health as the woman should have the choice to not have a baby as the result of rape and/or incest. Pro choice respects their physical health as sometimes a pregnancy is non-viable and can harm or even kill the pregnant woman in question if an abortion is not performed (IE the above case, or any ectopic pregnancy, miscarriage that doesn't flush out of the body). And pro choice respects the financial stability of the woman if they believe their current financial situation isn't stable enough to bring life in to the world and be able to take care of it.
    I'll maybe catch some flak here but I do think a lot of "pro-life" people are genuine in their belief that it's for the best, in one way or another. I have a couple friends who don't like abortions or think it should be a bit more restricted (I'm Canadian, it's practically unregulated here). A lot of their arguments hinge mostly on late-term abortions, or ye old life is sacred stuff. I don't agree with them and make it clear, yet all but one are OK with the practice being legal and not really regulated as they also think it's too much of a personal choice to leave it to the authorities.

    But I think the people who have those beliefs and don't necessarily want to impose them unto others aren't represented much by the Republican higher-ups. They're either extremists on the subject who want abortion to stop as a practice altogether, or (more commonly IMO) beholden to donors and a particularly active voter base that wants to stop it. It's a policy driven in very large part by the party's extreme social conservatives. That's why it goes so far in so many instances and why Roe was needed; give an inch, and the religious nuts will most definitely take an arm if they can, because for them there's no way abortion can ever be OK as they view it as murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
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    It always was.
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