SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Nymrohd]

How about "It's all Democrats scare tactic."

I also like "We would put forth reasonable policies."

Or, "No woman will be punished for having abortion."

Black Ohio woman’s arrest after pregnancy loss begs the question, ‘What do you do after a miscarriage?’

Never mind. She had a miscarriage. Not an abortion.

Pregnant, poor and punished: Southern states take the lead in arresting expectant mothers

Democrats don't need any scare tactics. GOP lawmakers are doing a fine job on their own.

And ofc they are far more likely to move against black women than white ones.

[The Stormbringer]

And ofc they are far more likely to move against black women than white ones.

I'm sure they're also believers of the Replacement Theory conspiracy too. Gotta protect the future of white children, or however that racist screed goes. Ugh, these people disgust me...

[Nymrohd]

I'm sure they're also believers of the Replacement Theory conspiracy too. Gotta protect the future of white children, or however that racist screed goes. Ugh, these people disgust me...

Then they'd be ok with black women not having kids. Nah we have actual functional evidence that Racism is more important to them than Misogyny. What a sad world.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Ongoing in: Cruelty and misogyny is the Point


It’s official — massively corrupt fascist Ken Paxton is seeking a writ of mandamus blocking the restraining order shielding Kate Cox and her doctors:

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the state Supreme Court to intervene and stop a Dallas woman from having an abortion.

Paxton’s office petitioned the high court just before midnight Thursday, after a Travis County district judge granted a temporary restraining order allowing Kate Cox, 31, to terminate her nonviable pregnancy. Paxton also sent a letter to three hospitals, threatening legal action if they allowed the abortion to be performed at their facility.
This is the first time an actively pregnant adult woman has gone to court to get an abortion since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. A similar case was filed in Kentucky on Friday.
In the petition, Paxton asked the Texas Supreme Court to rule quickly, saying that “each hour [the temporary restraining order] remains in place is an hour that Plaintiffs believe themselves free to perform and procure an elective abortion.”
[…]
The central question is whether a lethal fetal anomaly qualifies a pregnant patient for an abortion under the narrow medical exception to the state’s near-total abortion ban. Cox’s lawyers argue that continuing this nonviable pregnancy poses a threat to her life and future fertility, thus necessitating an abortion.
Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble agreed, saying it would be a “miscarriage of justice” to force Cox to continue the pregnancy. The state disagreed, telling the Supreme Court that Guerra Gamble’s ruling “opens the floodgates to pregnant mothers procuring an abortion” beyond the scope of the medical exception.

“We cannot allow a woman to use the statutory exception because then other women may also use them” is a pretty good summary of what they’re worth. But hey, conservative women keep falling for it.

[Rasulis]

Ongoing in: Cruelty and misogyny is the Point


It’s official — massively corrupt fascist Ken Paxton is seeking a writ of mandamus blocking the restraining order shielding Kate Cox and her doctors:

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the state Supreme Court to intervene and stop a Dallas woman from having an abortion.

Paxton’s office petitioned the high court just before midnight Thursday, after a Travis County district judge granted a temporary restraining order allowing Kate Cox, 31, to terminate her nonviable pregnancy. Paxton also sent a letter to three hospitals, threatening legal action if they allowed the abortion to be performed at their facility.
This is the first time an actively pregnant adult woman has gone to court to get an abortion since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. A similar case was filed in Kentucky on Friday.
In the petition, Paxton asked the Texas Supreme Court to rule quickly, saying that “each hour [the temporary restraining order] remains in place is an hour that Plaintiffs believe themselves free to perform and procure an elective abortion.”
[…]
The central question is whether a lethal fetal anomaly qualifies a pregnant patient for an abortion under the narrow medical exception to the state’s near-total abortion ban. Cox’s lawyers argue that continuing this nonviable pregnancy poses a threat to her life and future fertility, thus necessitating an abortion.
Travis County District Judge Maya Guerra Gamble agreed, saying it would be a “miscarriage of justice” to force Cox to continue the pregnancy. The state disagreed, telling the Supreme Court that Guerra Gamble’s ruling “opens the floodgates to pregnant mothers procuring an abortion” beyond the scope of the medical exception.

“We cannot allow a woman to use the statutory exception because then other women may also use them” is a pretty good summary of what they’re worth. But hey, conservative women keep falling for it.

Paxton is just trying to maintain Texas #1 position as the worst state to have a baby.

Why Texas Is the Worst State to Have a Baby

Texas ranks dead last in the country in caring for soon-to-be and new mothers. The high cost of care in North Texas, the nation’s worst health insurance rate, and a high infant mortality rate make the Lone Star State 50th for access to quality prenatal and maternal care.

Now we can add women have to go to the State Supreme Court for abortion due to the mother's health risk.

[Mekh]

And now we'll never see any of those pseudo-moderate "I'm pro-life, except when the mother's life is at stake"-posters in this thread ever again either.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Daily reminder that cruelty and control of women's bodies is the point.

[s_bushido]

Man...if the shit with Israel hadn't happened, I'd be so optimistic for 2024 because the GOP continues to saw off its own foot with this garbage. What do they honestly think they're accomplishing by demonstrating how malicious their """""pro-life""""" policies are over and over again? Is it really just to reassure their base that they're stopping the murder of babies? Because when you're talking about fetal non-viability and a threat to mother's life if the pregnancy continues...that ship has long since sailed. Especially since those are the exemptions they say they support when they're pretending to be reasonable.

[Shkar]

Texas Supreme Court has now granted a stay. The pregnant woman has to wait to get an abortion.

Texas Supreme Court temporarily blocks pregnant woman from emergency abortion

It is worth noting, the statements in Chonogo's quote are from the attorneys of the lady, not the Supreme Court. Just in case that seemed like an odd response to anyone else.

[RampageBW1]

I am just going to say it, "Pro-Life" isn't really pro-life, especially when they prioritize a non-viable fetus over the life and health of the supposed mother. It's, as George Carlin said, Anti-Women. They want to inflict consequences on to women for women daring to have and enjoy sex, regardless if that sex is to create life or not.

I've been starting to believe for a while now that pro-choice is the real pro-life.

As having a choice to have access to birth control and abortion respects the autonomy of the person choosing to use them. Pro choice respects their mental health as the woman should have the choice to not have a baby as the result of rape and/or incest. Pro choice respects their physical health as sometimes a pregnancy is non-viable and can harm or even kill the pregnant woman in question if an abortion is not performed (IE the above case, or any ectopic pregnancy, miscarriage that doesn't flush out of the body). And pro choice respects the financial stability of the woman if they believe their current financial situation isn't stable enough to bring life in to the world and be able to take care of it.

[Jastall]

I am just going to say it, "Pro-Life" isn't really pro-life, especially when they prioritize a non-viable fetus over the life and health of the supposed mother. It's, as George Carlin said, Anti-Women. They want to inflict consequences on to women for women daring to have and enjoy sex, regardless if that sex is to create life or not.

I've been starting to believe for a while now that pro-choice is the real pro-life.

As having a choice to have access to birth control and abortion respects the autonomy of the person choosing to use them. Pro choice respects their mental health as the woman should have the choice to not have a baby as the result of rape and/or incest. Pro choice respects their physical health as sometimes a pregnancy is non-viable and can harm or even kill the pregnant woman in question if an abortion is not performed (IE the above case, or any ectopic pregnancy, miscarriage that doesn't flush out of the body). And pro choice respects the financial stability of the woman if they believe their current financial situation isn't stable enough to bring life in to the world and be able to take care of it.

I'll maybe catch some flak here but I do think a lot of "pro-life" people are genuine in their belief that it's for the best, in one way or another. I have a couple friends who don't like abortions or think it should be a bit more restricted (I'm Canadian, it's practically unregulated here). A lot of their arguments hinge mostly on late-term abortions, or ye old life is sacred stuff. I don't agree with them and make it clear, yet all but one are OK with the practice being legal and not really regulated as they also think it's too much of a personal choice to leave it to the authorities.

But I think the people who have those beliefs and don't necessarily want to impose them unto others aren't represented much by the Republican higher-ups. They're either extremists on the subject who want abortion to stop as a practice altogether, or (more commonly IMO) beholden to donors and a particularly active voter base that wants to stop it. It's a policy driven in very large part by the party's extreme social conservatives. That's why it goes so far in so many instances and why Roe was needed; give an inch, and the religious nuts will most definitely take an arm if they can, because for them there's no way abortion can ever be OK as they view it as murder.

[Karreck]

Ongoing in: Cruelty and misogyny is the Point

It always was.

[Xyonai]

At this point it feels like they're fishing for another Supreme Court hearing so they can try and get even more restrictions put on it nation wide.

But I'm 100% open to the idea that they're just being cruel for the sake of their shitty ideological purity and to virtue signal to the deplorables that vote for them.

[Twdft]

I'll maybe catch some flak here but I do think a lot of "pro-life" people are genuine in their belief that it's for the best, in one way or another. I have a couple friends who don't like abortions or think it should be a bit more restricted (I'm Canadian, it's practically unregulated here). A lot of their arguments hinge mostly on late-term abortions, or ye old life is sacred stuff.

A woman being denied an abortion of a fetus that will not survive no matter what... for whom exactly do your friends think this is the best?

[RampageBW1]

I'll maybe catch some flak here but I do think a lot of "pro-life" people are genuine in their belief that it's for the best, in one way or another. I have a couple friends who don't like abortions or think it should be a bit more restricted (I'm Canadian, it's practically unregulated here). A lot of their arguments hinge mostly on late-term abortions, or ye old life is sacred stuff. I don't agree with them and make it clear, yet all but one are OK with the practice being legal and not really regulated as they also think it's too much of a personal choice to leave it to the authorities.

But I think the people who have those beliefs and don't necessarily want to impose them unto others aren't represented much by the Republican higher-ups. They're either extremists on the subject who want abortion to stop as a practice altogether, or (more commonly IMO) beholden to donors and a particularly active voter base that wants to stop it. It's a policy driven in very large part by the party's extreme social conservatives. That's why it goes so far in so many instances and why Roe was needed; give an inch, and the religious nuts will most definitely take an arm if they can, because for them there's no way abortion can ever be OK as they view it as murder.

Well, when I say Pro life, I mean the politicians that usurped the phrase to use as a weapon against the pro-choice movement.

[Rasulis]

March of Dimes 2023 Report Card.

• 8 states and Puerto Rico earned an “F” (Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, West Virginia)
• 4 states earned a “D-” (Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas)
• 5 states earned a “D” (Delaware, Indiana, Nevada, Ohio, Tennessee)
• 6 states earned a “D+” (Florida, Kansas, Michigan, North Carolina, South Dakota, Wyoming)
• 5 states and Washington D.C. earned a “C-” (Iowa, Maryland, New Mexico, North Dakota, Wisconsin)
• 6 states earned a “C” (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Montana, Virginia)
• 7 states earned a “C+” (Connecticut, Maine, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Utah)
• 3 states earned a “B-” (California, Massachusetts, Rhode Island)
• 4 states earned a “B” (Idaho, Oregon, Vermont, Washington)
• 1 state earned a “B+” (New Hampshire)
• **No states earned an “A”

Some states are not even trying.

New Texas maternal mortality report shows disparities persist
The Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee report, delayed by more than three months, estimates that up to 90% of the deaths may have been preventable. Severe complications from pregnancy and childbirth also increased significantly.

They kept trying.

Missouri Republicans propose legislation to allow women who receive abortions to be charged with murder

So which states have tried to do the same so far.

But identical legislation to allow women to be charged for having an abortion was introduced earlier this year in Missouri and similar bills were introduced in other states, including Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Kentucky and South Carolina, although none were advanced by a legislative committee.

Except for Colorado, the rest are F or D- grade states.

[Jastall]

A woman being denied an abortion of a fetus that will not survive no matter what... for whom exactly do your friends think this is the best?

I don't want to speak for them or get into too many specifics on behalf of people who aren't me. As I said I don't agree with their arguments in the first place.

[The Stormbringer]

I don't want to speak for them or get into too many specifics on behalf of people who aren't me. As I said I don't agree with their arguments in the first place.

Ah, so they're just stupid. Understandable, I'd say everyone has some stupid friends.

[Rasulis]

What we are seeing in Texas, and the South in general, is the future that women in the United States will face if Republicans have full control of abortion rights.

A future where a woman and her doctor, and her husband also, have to ask a judge's PERMISSION to get an abortion of an unviable fetus for health reason. When the permission is granted, a MAN seated in the state attorney's general office, with no medical background, says "No." Then the state's high court put everything on hold while the woman and her family suffer in fear and uncertainty.

They won't stop there either.

Republican Lawmaker Rants About Contraception Going Against Nature

On Wednesday, the Wisconsin State Assembly voted 82-11 in a bipartisan fashion to allow statewide pharmacists to prescribe contraceptive patches and self-administered oral hormonal contraceptives without a doctor's prescription. Current state law only allows women to obtain most birth control through a prescription written by a doctor or advanced practice nurse.

Wisconsin state Representative Chuck Wichgers, one of the 11 Republicans who voted against the bill, said Wednesday prior to the bill's passing that contraception leads to infidelity, a "proliferation of STDs," and is unnatural.

These are the people US constituents elected to office.

"

It opens up the door to marital infidelity, and it did," Wichgers said, referencing unknown religious leaders. "The government might force contraceptives upon married couples; that's happened in other countries. So, the government gets to have a role—they get to play 'supreme ruler.'"

After being booed by some members for his remarks, Wichgers continued on, saying that contraception increases disrespect by men towards women who "have to control the natural reproductive course of the body."

"Nature has an intention and when you have that act—when pregnancy naturally occurs, that's nature doing what nature does. The woman then has to counter nature by taking something that is highly systemic and highly invasive, according to the documents and the books that people that are pro the pill stated in their books," the Republican representative said.

Wichgers continued: "That's a science. We would begin to see ourselves as the ultimate masters of nature, so when nature does something it's supposed to do and then we say, 'Let's not do that'—we're talking not about getting a pimple if you eat Doritos and eat chocolate; that would be contrary to a health movement or nature."

Yeah. Not much to comment on. Next the US current speaker of the house.

Fox News Host Confronts Mike Johnson on Birth Control Access

While appearing on Fox News Sunday, Bream noted that Johnson had been accused of being "wildly out of step" with Americans on birth control, in which 92 percent of Americans say it's morally acceptable, according to a 2022 Gallup poll.

"He supported bans that would not only criminalize abortion, but ban IVF treatments and common forms of birth control and that you voted against access to contraception," Bream said, quoting EMILYs List, a political action committee aimed at electing women who support abortion rights. "Is that an accurate assessment of where you are? Because that's not in step with the American people."

[Edge-]

Glasses and contacts lenses go against nature. Artificial hair color goes against nature. Clothing goes against nature.

These people are dangerous extremists who haven't actually spent a second critically thinking in their lives, apparently.