49 Agree that women have the right to decide for themselves. 51 Disagree.
It is ruled that women's wombs are the property of the US government.
RIP Genn Greymane, Permabanned on 8.22.18
Your name will carry on through generations, and will never be forgotten.
Senate voted to codify and was defeated 51-49. Manchin voted with the Republicans.
I just hate this dog and pony show. Feckless Dems pulling this shit with no chance of winning. Oh btw the typical passive, aggressive Dems using this as "we got them on record" and lets vote and fundraise against it is week. Effin Dems!
Murkowski and Collins voted "No" with Republicans. Shocking! They supposedly did their own water downed bill. Manchin too stated that the Dem bill gave tooooooo much leniency on abortion.
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”
-Isaac Asimov
Manchin bending Manchin...but Murkoswki and Collins can both kill themselves...in Minecraft!
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Well, she's still blocking the filibuster reform. So her doing her little act to show her empathy for the plebs of the Districts rings a wee bit hollow.
Manchin is the roadblock he was predicted to be years ago...big surprise.
I just wonder what his game is, since his favored Republican candidates locally (the ones he endorses) seem to get their asses handed to them by voters choosing the Trump pick.
But I guess being a fence-sitting shitlord is just way more profitable for him and his family right now. Shame West Virginia keeps electing dogshit candidates.
No effort from Schumer to preserve current law under Roe in order to get a "messaging" bill 52 votes. He gets 49. The bill fails outright, no failure to overcome filibuster, no "blocked by evil Republicans and evil filibuster," just fails to get a majority in a procedural vote.
Schumer: Wait guys, we have Senate Republicans on record ... as a bipartisan majority defeats the bill.
He's giving Pelosi a run for her money in worst person on Democratic leadership on the Hill.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
Or 5, or any time under Obama, both Bush's, Reagan, Carter, Ford or Nixon.
Regardless, no one has any fucking right to tell another human what they can or cannot do with their own body, even suicide. Thise that want to control bodily autonomy have no right to claim muh freedumz ever.
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Funny how it's a bipartisan majority with 1 Democrats, but you guys love to not accept a bipartisan majority saved the ACA with 1 Republican vote, or any other time a few pubes crossed rank.
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It's not about that and killing the filibuster wouldn't have made a difference in this case. This is something Dems can campaign on especially since the vast majority of states that house these GOP senators have kill Switch laws that go into effect making it felony murder to abort. Which is something an overwhelming amount of Dems and Indies and a large share of repubs are very concerned over. This could be a big deal in some Senate races especially since gerrymandering doesn't matter for senate races and some GOP senators have openly stated they would consider coming for contraception, gay and interracial marriage.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
This. You'd be hard pressed to call any of the ACA flips "Democrats with an R next to their name".
Then again, considering tehdang's dishonest hyperfocusing on the exceeding minority of abortions done in the late term I'm not surprised he's trying to claim this as a victory for his depraved views.
holy shit, we actually have the nofly list. holy fucking bingle. what?! :3
He's not. He's a Democrat. But we all know he's a very, very, very conservative Democrat. He's a shit, but that's the only Democrat WV was going to send to the Senate. And without him there wouldn't be an infrastructure bill or the ARA. I ain't praising him for this, so power down weapons, but it's just a reality.
If Manchin were a Republican with a little typo, McConnell would be majority leader, and this bill might be a laugh line in a subcommittee. It matters that Manchin is a Democrat. Your personal distaste for his Democrat-In-Name-Only is beside the point.
He's actually the most liked Democratic Senator in your entire damned caucus, if we poll Senators within their state.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
Wait what? This seems like a weirdly specific poll. You got a link? Not that I doubt you, but more that I'm just curious who would commission such an oddly specific poll with such limited value in it. And to see what the other poll numbers are like.
Edit: Unless you're wording "he's popular with voters in his state" weirdly - https://www.wboy.com/news/west-virgi...west-virginia/
Though if you go to the poll it appears that Patrick Leahy is actually the most popular Democratic Senator with voters in his home state, and if we actually take the disapproval rating into the final number then Manchin would also be behind Ed Markey (-2% positive approval, but also -7% to disapproval, resulting in Markey coming out with a +5 over Manchin).
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