SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[Varx]

What's a "reasonable time" here? Will rape victims be told this reasonable time? Who is going to tell them? How will this time be determined?

That's up to the law makers. I personally would say before there's brain activity or a heartbeat.

[omeomorfismo]

Well then adoption, and if you practice actuall safe sex it's practically 100%

Condoms, spermicide, pulling out, birth control, and of the condom breaks, plan b.

NO EXCUSES.

ok, but its pretty difficult to adopt a fetus.
and pratically 100% isnt actually 100%, so i prefer to have even the option of abortion, more options are better

[Edge-]

Where do you draw the line then? Cuz would it be okay to kill a fetus 12 hours before it's considered a baby??

Viability outside the womb, which is right around the same measure that most states start banning non-medically necessary abortions.

Jesus christ on a god-damned fuckin stick. Do y'all not bother educating yourself on literally anything regarding this broader discussion?

[Elegiac]

Where do you draw the line then? Cuz would it be okay to kill a fetus 12 hours before it's considered a baby??

So, you do in fact support forced organ and blood donations, then?

[Varx]

This is why we need sex ed in schools.

Guy has no clue.

Schools and parents at home. Regardless ignorance isn't an excuse to committing a crime, that's basic law.

[unfilteredJW]

Yeah cry harder and wear a condom and accept the consequences to your actions

An abortion is dealing with the consequences. Try again.

[Varx]

So, you do in fact support forced organ and blood donations, then?

Lmao what? Of course not. How is that even related.

How is that the same as killing a human being

[jonnysensible]

Viability outside the womb, which is right around the same measure that most states start banning non-medically necessary abortions.

Jesus christ on a god-damned fuckin stick. Do y'all not bother educating yourself on literally anything regarding this broader discussion?

the guy with the matt walsh pic is trolling big surprise. didn't matt walsh just make some weird doc with child porn in it. Wrong un.

[unfilteredJW]

Schools and parents at home. Regardless ignorance isn't an excuse to committing a crime, that's basic law.

No crime committed. You need other classes as well looks like.

[NoiseTank13]

This dude rather have two lives ruined rather than one.

[Varx]

An abortion is dealing with the consequences. Try again.

No an abortion is a bail out at the cost of a life.

The consequences would be to be a parent or at least give them for adoption and a chance at life. Other wise don't have sex, it's a simple as that

[unfilteredJW]

This dude rather have two lives ruined rather than one.

Causing pain is the point.

[omerome]

Good, what's right has come to pass. Outside of the exception to rape (within reasonable time) and the life of the mother being a jeopardy, every baby has the right to live. And this is from someone who's agnostic and for the separation of church and state.

Murder is murder. What's the difference between a baby who crossed the line on a gestation threshold to not allow abortion and one who's a day behind? The entire thing is twisted.

Just practice safe sex people, ffs.

There's other words I want to say right now, but instead, I'm going to just say, kindly kick rocks. If every baby has the right to live according to you, then why isn't every "pro-life" individual championing for medical healthcare for all? Why about properly funded head-start programs? Pre and post natal treatments for not only the individual with the means to do so, but for those who can't. What about common sense gun-regulations so as baby grow into kids, they don't get shot just trying to get an education? Or what about treating our environment so our babies can have a safe place to live as their grow up. You all don't care about the baby once it's born so again, kindly kick rocks trying to justify your hypocrisy to the rest of us.

Besides, the corrupt SCOTUS isn't done with this decision. They want to overturn Griswold which would criminalize contraception. Which would no longer make people "just practice safe sex" anymore. So what now, huh?

[Adam Jensen]

If only Republicans would actually support teaching kids about safe sex and ensuring they have access to contraceptives.

Naw, you're just like the rest of them. Including the states that want to outlaw abortion even in instances of rape or incest. Those are your people. That's who you're arm and arm celebrating with.

Y'all just hate women and want the state to ultimately have control over their bodily autonomy and health care decisions.

The Republicans have spent the 50 years since Roe V Wade doing everything they can to also fight initiatives like contraceptives and sex ed that would lower abortion rates.

It's so fucking stupid.

[Xyonai]

What about autonomy for a baby?

No one forces pregnancy outside a rape.

If you can't afford the baby then don't be a dumbfuck and have unprotected sex.

In the sense that I, with a hypothetical liver issue, cannot compel or force you, a hypothetical liver haver, to give me a chunk of your liver even if my condition is life threatening. It's the same autonomy that guarantees that corpses can't be forcibly harvested for organs unless the deceased gave a pre-mortem go-ahead. It's also why you can't just pull the plug on someone who's comatose and has zero chance of waking back up without going through extensive legal hurdles.

To pair it down into ugly and clinical terms: The baby cannot survive without the mother, but the mother's bodily autonomy does not - should not - compel her to carry that child to term for much the same reasons.

It's really that simple, mate.

[Draco-Onis]

An abortion is dealing with the consequences. Try again.

I wouldn't bother these people are pro life, for the death penalty and pro war being a living oxymoron is the right wing these days. They dream of establishing a theocratic fascist state sharing the same goals as their ISIS brothers.

[Varx]

This dude rather have two lives ruined rather than one.

How do you know what's gonna happen to that baby???

Adoption is an automatic life ruin? Gtfo... Both parties would benefit.

The mother can go on with her life and the baby gets a chance at having one. That's running to you,?

Man that's twisted.

[Elegiac]

Lmao what? Of course not. How is that even related.

How is that the same as killing a human being

Because someone will die if they're denied your organs or blood. You know, the same way a fetus will die if it's denied the use of a woman's organs and blood.

Once again; bodily autonomy does not entitle anyone to the use of someone else's body to sustain their lives even if that use would enable them to survive. You're not even entitled to a corpse's organs or blood.

So what you're doing here is putting women in a position where they have fewer rights than a dead person. Don't bang on about how you love women when you support them being second class citizens.

[Edge-]

the guy with the matt walsh pic is trolling big surprise. didn't matt walsh just make some weird doc with child porn in it. Wrong un.

Oh, so that is Matt Walsh, fuckin lol. Didn't even notice. Well then, that says everything I need to know.

[Adam Jensen]

No an abortion is a bail out at the cost of a life.

The consequences would be to be a parent or at least give them for adoption and a chance at life. Other wise don't have sex, it's a simple as that

A woman couldn't get an abortion, so she instead miscarried and the child came out . . . in pieces.

If abortion had been legal, a trained medical doctor could have taken out the unviable fetus and spared her that agony.