Right, it's not that LFG itself is wrong, but design behind one, which moved at wrong direction.
If in fact, then of course search was in WotLK, this "scamp" already knew how to form cross-realm groups, and that was bad, but it didn’t teleport anyone anywhere, which is good... I see here a little different problem, they don't have that "old one" seach, and new one is too different (has to be cut at least in half of all, that belong to it).
...but since I don't play either Classic or BC Classic and I don't think I'll play WotLK Classic (well, I don't like their layers, they "nervous" me, but they probably won’t change their decision regarding it), I guess I don't have right to vote for anything.
As for destruction/politeness of community, this is separate theme, and it's quite clear that LFG-tool alone is something insufficient for its destruction, and here we should first of all talk about organization of game world in general and servers in particular. But, as I already said, we can talk about last a lot and for a long time and preferably in another topic, this one is too narrow.
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for LFG: simple, no one gives a f8ck anymore about anyone, u are no longer a human player, but a random npc to do dungeon and done, if they tomorrow morning give actual ai companion half of ppl won't notice because how souless dungeon runs are now
for token: literally blizz own employees (I think was vice manager of wow or something) was selling boosts in his twitch stream, again now u are expected to be already high geared ready to do anything, by buying boosts from blizz higher ups using tokens
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how exactly is ur answer contributing anything, if it isn't just pure insult?
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and u played entire 3.3? most ppl didn't
for me i did but because mid it a lot of rl friends decided to play wow and i had to guild manage everything, if they didn't decide to play i'd mostly stopped after done icc and some pvp
The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
Thrall
http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
im leveling a warlock in classic BC right now. From the dungeons i've done, its been toggling myself on the tool+spam chats. After the runs, everyone goes each on theyre own.
But - out in the world? I group up all the time with people and stay in party with them for a long time. Often it starts with helping out or clear 1 quest, before you know it we have done lots of quests throughout a zone. We do quests we both have, we help eachother with quests only one have etc.
I think the world, especially classic EK/K, and how its buildt up does a much greater job in bringing people together than dungeons do. And I think we forget that.
how exactly is something 100% personal related to something 100% social!?
if u walk or fly in-game u using ur own toon, u not using anyone else, heck ppl can and do fly around u while u aren't while lvling for example
on other hand, to go a dungeon u actually need other ppl, u can't do that solo, so LFG effecting how u do dungeon is something out of UR control
easy example back in TBC some hcs required flying to go to stone, since it costed a lot many ppl (specially alts) didn't have flying but as long just 2 in ur team have it u can do the dungeon np
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agree, u expressed it better than me
The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
Thrall
http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
[QUOTE=gunnmen01;53759461]Exactly this
this crowd is very vocal, these forums are filled with them
They have this unreasonable fantasy that they want blizz to cater to.
I guarantee you most of them have severe mental health disorders, because no normal person will ask constantly for stuff on a forum for a video game.
"stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
-ynnady
What idea? If WotLK truly is for the old school mmo crowd, then dont have dual spec there. Or several other QoL features.
Also, again, those that want to play WotLK doesnt automatically want to play classic or bc. I bet theres lots of ppl out there who have waited for wotLK and couldnt give a rats ass about classic or bc.
The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
Thrall
http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
LFD used to be known as the sit in Stormwind/Orgrimmar all day and queue for dungeons MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE RP GAME
Please gief Dungeon Finder , ty BB ! U can still make your LFG groups even with dungeon finder and reserve all your stuff . I dunno what the fuss is about. If u dont like Dungeon Finder just don't que on it and make your group on LFG or World or whatever to reserver stuff.
All I remember before LFD is ppl whispering me 24/7 to tank for them. Not sure that made me feel like I was playing an "MMO RPG".
We raided 10m and 25m so that was the closest to MMO, not the dungeon experience.
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I remember in Wrath, later on, ppl jumped at gear score because it was an efficient way to judge you and make things fast. You can be social if you want, you won't be social if you don't want.
M+ is living proof of this on retail. Ppl have to make their own groups. But how many ppl befriend others after a run? Almost nobody wants that and I myself don't understand why. Those who do, do, no matter the tools.
This is one of the most silly, asinine posts ive ever read on MMO-Champ rofl!
You do realize that a majority of classic players raid log right? The raids are piss easy. There is nothing to do. We log on, clear SSC / TK, we log til the next week. We log on, clear MT / Hyjal then we log til next raid. There is nothing hardcore about classic at all. Classic is about as casual as it gets my friend.
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You'd be incorrect. Im on Mankrik and there are struggles getting full groups. Go try to do a BRD lol. There are like 1-2 groups of each dungeon going max and Mankrik has over 10k players.
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This is a very uninformed take. LFD didnt ruin the game. LFR and the watered down raid pool did. Once LFR was introduced, there was hardly a reason to be in a guild anymore. That was the transition line of being in a community of like minded players to just being able to sit around , hit a button, and get in a raid (even if it was dogshit easy). Then follow this up with WoWs current tool where you could queue up, people could invite you based on ilvl, and that was a wrap. The only thing you really needed a guild for was mythic and thats the .0001% of players.
Im really glad blizz is leaning towards putting in some sort of system. What they put in will be better than Bulletin LFG.
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Youre arguing semantics. A majority of people , including the devs, use the word classic to describe the old era which is Vanilla Classic, TBC Classic, and now Wrath Classic. Don't be obtuse man.
Sure, and those people will play for two weeks and leave. Nostalgia players don't stick around. If Classic or TBC Classic didn't interest you, WoTLK isn't going to hold your attention either. You'll have a couple of weeks of a good time and then the servers will be left to the crowd that likes old school MMOs.
"stop puting you idiotic liberal words into my mouth"
-ynnady
If someone doesnt want RDF, go vanilla era and leave Wotlk for Wotlk fans.
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