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  1. #61
    I think they would only make sense as Orc Demon Hunters. Like, if Akama's been using Illidan's teachings to help the Fel Orcs at the Black Temple (and potentially Eredar too), regain their mortal minds.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    I think they would only make sense as Orc Demon Hunters. Like, if Akama's been using Illidan's teachings to help the Fel Orcs at the Black Temple
    1. Illidan's training in the novels was norotiously kept secret.
    2. Why would Akama want to help the same orcs who turned millions of his people into a road?

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Caerule View Post
    I think they would only make sense as Orc Demon Hunters. Like, if Akama's been using Illidan's teachings to help the Fel Orcs at the Black Temple (and potentially Eredar too), regain their mortal minds.

    Oooh, this is an interesting one.
    Demon hunters are close to the only example of fel corrupted creatures retaining some semblance sanity, or as you aptly put it "a mortal mind".

    It could definitely work that way.
    This is a signature of an ailing giant, boundless in pride, wit and strength.
    Yet also as humble as health and humor permit.

    Furthermore, I consider that Carthage Slam must be destroyed.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Mic_128 View Post
    Different levels of the same thing. Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 are still Super Saiyan.
    Then, normal Draenei and Lightofrged Draenei wouldn't differ.

    We're talking about magic and demonic corruption. You think the action of desecrating the corpse of a demon wouldn't have an affect?

    Or hell, look at it at a basic level. Hook yourself up to someone and get a blood transfusion. Then, hook yourself up to a corpse that's been dead a week, see if there's any worse effects from that.
    This isn't real life. It's a game.
    The blood of the pitlord still has corruptive porperties in Hellfire peninsula after it was killed at the pools of Aggonar.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Then, normal Draenei and Lightofrged Draenei wouldn't differ.
    Two totally different things. Draenei have a minor blessing by the Naaru, which at this point is basically part of their inherent biology. Lightforged need to go through an external ritual, where they're infused with the Light.

    The blood of the pitlord still has corruptive porperties in Hellfire peninsula after it was killed at the pools of Aggonar.
    ...and? The argument wasn't that a dead pitlord has no corruptive properties, the argument was that the corruptive properties gets worse when consumed from a demon's corpse.

  6. #66
    I think it would be a really cool aesthetic to have playable, and I never really bought that Gorefiend was permadead given what we've seen in the past, so I'd be up for it. It could be framed as the Horde extending aid (similar to the tauren and Forsaken), with varying degrees of success. Also, fel orcs would look really nice with a model update.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkoms View Post
    Well the Forsaken still exist thanks to the Val'kyrs and I'm not sure if there are new worgen, but I don't think finding a demon is a big deal.
    RE: Worgen, Blizzard confirmed the curse is not hereditary, and the new worgen being made from existing worgen's blood were being created to resist the val'kyr's reanimation capability. Given that the val'kyr are now dead, and given the way the worgen heritage questline went (i.e. being worgen isn't important to being worgen), I would expect all worgen to be gone once the current generation die off. We might see a wolf cult forming to keep them around (not unlike what we saw in Grizzly Hills), but I expect it would be far rarer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    They're already in:
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Horde_Portal-Sentry

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    They were added as NPCs to the Dark Portal in the aftermath of TBC.

    Honestly, though, I'd rather see Dragonmaw Orcs as an Allied Race. Chaos Orcs would work well enough as a basic Orc customization.
    Huh, hadn't noticed the red-skinned orcs in the Horde before. Cool!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    We already have 2 types of playable orcs why not one more...

    Or just make them a skin for the Mag'Har
    We have three types of humans as three distinct racial options (Stormwindian, Gilnean, Kul'tiran), so why not three orcs?

  7. #67
    Teron Gorefiend, the guy who tricked and backstabbed us, or Teron GOREFIEND, the guy who turned into a hulking soul abomination and we had to kill him?
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  8. #68
    well after the events of TBc i think they are not many of them left, they dont even have a soild leadership anymore

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Aresk View Post
    Huh, hadn't noticed the red-skinned orcs in the Horde before. Cool!
    It's just specifically those two npcs, and Bliz has never confirmed that it wasn't a bug.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mic_128 View Post
    Two totally different things. Draenei have a minor blessing by the Naaru, which at this point is basically part of their inherent biology. Lightforged need to go through an external ritual, where they're infused with the Light.
    Different stages of light influence.

    ...and? The argument wasn't that a dead pitlord has no corruptive properties, the argument was that the corruptive properties gets worse when consumed from a demon's corpse.
    And, this is based on what exactly? Lore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    We already have 2 types of playable orcs why not one more...

    Or just make them a skin for the Mag'Har
    Why Mag'har?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mic_128 View Post
    It's just specifically those two npcs, and Bliz has never confirmed that it wasn't a bug.
    That would be an incredibly strange bug to have lasted for well over a literal decade and through a couple zones revamps. Might as well say that Taunka having bison heads instead of normal tauren heads is a bug. Because they never confirmed that it wasn't!

  12. #72
    I would love that. Kargath was wasted. The Fel Horde should have been the playable Horde from the beginning. Not the group of self loathing hippies lead by Thrall.

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    I know the term "felsworn" has been used as a name for specific groups that have sworn allegiance to the Burning Legion, but to use the term as any race or group that swears allegiance to the Burning Legion and subsequently becomes a "fel _____" variation of their race have shown time and time again not to be very... sane, or smart in their allegiances.


    Felskorn vrykul in Stormheim, Felborne elves in Suramar, and the Feltotem tauren are 3 most recent examples. Fel orcs are just an older example.


    That being said, I do hope in the inevitable "cosmic war" expansion (even if it's focused on Light vs Void) I do hope we get a similar allegiance system where you get to pledge your allegiance to a specific cosmic force and become an "infused variation" of your playable race. That would be cool.
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  14. #74
    Horde alrdy have some Chaos Orc (fel) in the faction.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Mic_128 View Post
    2. Why would Akama want to help the same orcs who turned millions of his people into a road?
    Why, because the message for anyone the Horde has stomped into the dirt the past twenty years has been "The victim shouldn't seek justice."

    Of course, now we know WHY they've been pushing that message.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
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    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

  16. #76
    Could see them as a Orc demon hunter skin if they're ever expanded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    Why, because the message for anyone the Horde has stomped into the dirt the past twenty years has been "The victim shouldn't seek justice."

    Of course, now we know WHY they've been pushing that message.

    Bro are you capable of posting anything that isn't a derail into "Hordie" bashing? Lmao, holy shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    Bro are you capable of posting anything that isn't a derail into "Hordie" bashing? Lmao, holy shit
    Bro, are you capable of understanding I didn't say one word about Horde fans?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

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