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    Akama, and literally every other Broken that can stealth, all quite clearly prove that yes, you can stealth with hooves. There was precedent for Draenei rogues literally before they were added as a playable race, and I think the Grimtotem rogues were added with Cata.

    It isn't a hoof issue, and the fact that pandaren can be rogues just makes it worse. Male pandaren are quite fat, I don't believe they'd somehow be more stealthy than a Draenei or Tauren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by napoleonmayo View Post
    No tauren or draenei rogues
    You are wrong. Rogues use magic to stealth, everyone can do that. Also we already have Pirate Tauren in lore, that's the outlaw spec. And Rangari for Draenei.

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    Never got this complaint. Magic to silence the sound of movement is basically a staple of fantasy at this point. Rogues already dabble in shadow magic, so I don't see the leap in logic.

    Not to mention the Grimtotem rogue NPCs since at least Cataclysm if not earlier, as well as the Rangari forces of the Draenei from AU Draenor.
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    You people just don't understand.

    A hoofed person could not possibly vanish from sight in an open field with no cover or concealment of any kind, like all the other Rogues do. THAT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE.

    Use your head, geez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    A hoofed person could not possibly vanish from sight in an open field with no cover or concealment of any kind, like all the other Rogues do. THAT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE.
    A person could not possibly vanish from sight in an open field with no cover or concealment of any kind. THAT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE.

    Fixed it for you

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    You guys on the first page must really not have much else to complain about nowadays. What is this?


    Tauren and Draenei should not be rogues because they are bigger races and have hooves? That's what you guys want to go with? I suppose when you throw shit at a wall, eventually something might stick. This ain't it.

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    Satyrs since vanilla had hoofs and rogues :P I think taurens also in Thousand Needles ? I know its funny but still.
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    oh come on, how many people play solely for the lore? I reckon a lot more people would go for meme classes like Tauren rogue just because they can than people who would get tilted over the lore not explicitly supporting Tauren rogues

    Lore isn't really being broken here though. Tauren being rogues somehow isn't going to break things like the person you quoted, such exaggeration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Haven't you been paying attention? The current devs don't care about adhering to the lore. You'll take your stealthy cows and your light wielding Orcs and you'll like it! *pukes*
    I love your posts, you clearly hate the game but still play, I feel a sense of connection. I don't hate the game the connection is from how grumpy you are.

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    Gnome and goblin warriors don't make much sense either
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    And here I thought all these years we were going along with rogues and pretending to not see them for fantasy sake.

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    It's already canon that Rogues use Shadow magic to make themselves stealthier than would be normally possible. They aren't just purely using skill.

    Also, all the other reasons why you're wrong have been stated already in the thread. Just accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    Gnome and goblin warriors don't make much sense either
    Literally anyone can pick up a weapon, get angry, and start fighting. That's what Warriors are.

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    I'm all for it. Throw wide the gates and let people play what they want, come up with their own stories. Why is their orc a paladin? They can come up with their own backstory for it. Player characters are individuals and not every individual conforms to the social norms of their larger society. Just because night elves and draenei don't accept the fel doesn't mean individuals can't deviate from that.

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    It doesn't bother me because blood elf warriors weren't a thing initially, yet somehow gnome warriors were a thing since vanilla. Also having to wait until Cataclysm for troll druids was sort of a travesty as well. Everything being a DK is sort of stupid as well from a visual standpoint, but whatever.

    It doesn't bode well though because Blizzard must have a clause somewhere that states that RMP must remain viable no matter the cost in PvP. With the lack of ideas going forward they probably though opening up every race option might give it the edge they need.

    Really wish that another brand of DHs were created though. Orcs and and draenei are literally shown as being proficient in masking themselves and being pretty much the ultimate embodiments of being infused with fel magics through commanders, or bosses seen throughout the game. They would certainly need a different look, but anybody who tells you that orc and draenei couldn't be a DH for 'reasons' is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by napoleonmayo View Post
    No tauren or draenei rogues
    Well we just stopped Mr Clean from remaking reality so I think we can ignore this issue for now.

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    The BFA Thrall cinematic more or less confirms stealth is simple shadow magic not a physical thing. Seems pretty easy to pick up if youre getting hunted down by Orcs Akama made the swap from pally to rogue pretty quick in WC3.

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    Can hooves cross a bridge? Because you're going to get over it.

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    It's definitionally racist to believe there isn't a single member of a species who could learn a certain skill.

    The idea of racial restrictions at all is beyond dumb, unless there is a very specific lore behind it where the skill has to be taught (aka, gatekept knowledge). There's a good reason tabletop games have moved away from it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Haven't you been paying attention? The current devs don't care about adhering to the lore. You'll take your stealthy cows and your light wielding Orcs and you'll like it! *pukes*
    Because light-wielding undead make more sense than light-wielding orcs, right?

  20. #40
    Until you've seen how quiet a moose can be you have no opinion OP. I am Canadian and I can tell you a moose can walk up right next to you and you wouldn't even know if you weren't looking around.

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