In the real world, deer are one of the stealthiest creatures on the planet. They have hooves. So it's not out of the question.
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
If we're going from a technical perspective...
Why can rogues; health themselves with a health pot that isn't a health pot, use magic to cloak themselves and stave off damage, vanish in front of people with nothing to help out, move faster for no reason and take less damage from falling, get imaginary combo pts where one of them makes you attack faster for no reason and my personal best... use an ability so that all of your damage turns into threat that goes to someone else...
And you're worried about "hooves" eh?
Daggers can't take out Demolishers either. So much for things making sense.
which have fuck all to do with my point that hiding one big person is easier than 40, yet you consider the easier thing absurd...
please share with us where in vanila it was said that rogues stealth is non-magical, bcs if you cant then its just your ASSUMPTION, not a fact, you should look up difference...
again, you just ASSUME (and at this point incorrectly) the stealth is nonmagical, it might have been originaly (if you can prove it, i dont remember it being said anywhere in the game) but rogues use shadow magic all the time, why would they use non-magical stealth, surely magical would be harder to detect...
and sure, shroud needs mastery of stealth, to hide FORTY people, (39 of which currently can be tauren or drenei btw), yet hiding ONE does not require such high skill, as we already know, as there are taurens and drenei rogues in lore and ingame, just not playable...
luckily, world doesnt revolve around you, so your expectations are moot point, tauren and EVERY other rogue can use magical stealth only, no need for "regular" sneaking other than you being stuck in the past (in which we didnt even know if stealth was non-magical, you just assumed that and stick to it as if its canon)...
seriously, your whole argument is "i think this is fact hence anything else is absurd"...
you are free to have that opinion, however you are wrong, and proofs are all over the lore and ingame, as mentioned about hundred times in this thread
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im 100% sure by now all people claiming tauren cant be rogues due to hooves and size NEVER EVER seen a cow irl, they are massive, they have hooves yet they can be sneaky as hell
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Not what I said. I said that there was no indication that rogues originally used magic hence there needs to be a non-magical explanation for their stealth. Again, you're working your way backwards. You use a powerful late game ability to make an argument that anyone can become a rogue when prerequisite for learning this ability is being sneaky to begin with (which 8 foot tall cows are not).
Please name a single classic rogue spell or talent that mentions the use of magic.
You need to demonstrate why the assumptions is wrong. Is it wrong or unreasonable to assume that a warrior would have to learn how to hold a sword before he can blade storm? Same goes for basic sneaking -> advanced stealth magic especially when there used to be nothing magical about rogues in earlier versions of the game.
The game actually also distinguishes mechanically between stealth and a mage's invisibility. On a side note: do feral druids use shadow magic to sneak as well? And can they only use that shadow magic while transformed into a cat?
The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?
Taurens being able to become Rogues has ruined my enjoyment of this game, this was the FINAL STRAW SHAME ON YOU BLIZZARD. UNBELIEVABLE
Ghostly Strike.
Seems a bit weird to limit it to "classic" though, and this
Is objectively wrong when TBC had rogues teleporting and able to use cloak of shadows to cancel out magic, or enveloping shadows to avoid AoE.there used to be nothing magical about rogues in earlier versions of the game.
In the vanilla manual, the entry for the [Stealth] ability says: "Places the rogue in stealth mode, Cannot be used in combat. White stealthed, the rogue turns transparent, and can sneak around enemies with a lower chance of being detected." Like, the fact that your rogue turns see-through when in stealth should have been a pretty big clue that stealth was something involving some sort of magic. That combined with the outright magic in ghostly strike should have told you rogues weren't just operating on skill alone, as if that made any sense AT ALL lorewise, when you have large groups of rogues in groups like the Wastewander bandits, stealthing in the middle of open deserts in direct sunlight.
moose move thru woods with little to no sound. having over a 4 foot wide rack on their head doesnt help them at all. yet they seem to do it like its instincts......so why cant a highmountain tauren stealth?
Yeah but can they sneak into crates and throw smoke bombs? I don't see meese in the woods able to do triple backflips, vault rooftop to rooftop, and escape hordes of soldiers trying to catch them. The moment a Tauren tries to vault to a nearby rooftop they will fall through the roof and into the rooms below...
Yeah it’s really sad. I Remember the old days when they would only introduce new classes to races, they would try to find a way to justify it in lore. And if they couldn’t, it wouldn’t happen. Much like how we never got Draenei warlocks. It would have been the dumbest thing in the world.
The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?