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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    White Supremacist in Buffalo kills 10 people with a manifesto writing about the "Great Replacement".

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...event/3687999/
    Glad you put the correct name in the title and not 'domestic shooter' or 'troubled man'. Definitely a white supremacist and a terrorist at that
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    How do people like this get elected?

    Arizona GOP Legislator Wendy Rogers Suggests Buffalo Shooter Was a Fed in Deranged Conspiracy Theory

    It’s a terrible but sadly all-too-familiar tale of an angry young man whose hate allegedly festered online before devolving into deadly violence.

    But for Rogers, it’s an opportunity to spread the kind of fetid nonsense that indicates she should switch out her red MAGA hat for one constructed of tin foil.

    “Fed boy summer has started in Buffalo,” she posted shortly before 10:00 pm ET on Saturday, implying that the gunman was some sort of government agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Even the claim that overall crime is declining is extremely questionable. It was declining, but that upticked back in the mid-2010s, settled back in, and then spiked significantly in mid-2020 and on. Most of the graphs that go around when people talk about crime declining end in 2019 or 2020. I don't think they're being deliberately misleading, the decline was a very real trend for decades and there's plenty of supporting data for it, but that stagnated a decade ago and sharply reverse in the last couple years. Obviously there are extenuating circumstances that it make it unclear what to expect going forward, but it's not at all unreasonable to be concerned about the thousands of excess murders in the past couple years relative to previous years.
    I don't think it's particularly useful to look at single-year aberrations over the overall pattern. It's the same statistically misleading approach climate change deniers use when they point to an unusually high global temperature in one year, and then an unusually low global temperature in some later year, and pretend the climate isn't warming at all.


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    I'd throw pandemic crime rates right out the window, tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    I'd throw pandemic crime rates right out the window, tbh.

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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    This seems to be the popular theory for the far-right. It was a "false flag" and was actually done by Biden because something BLM and midterms something. I've seen a few variations on this theme already and jesus christ Alex Jones has been mainstreamed within the Republican party, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    This seems to be the popular theory for the far-right. It was a "false flag" and was actually done by Biden because something BLM and midterms something. I've seen a few variations on this theme already and jesus christ Alex Jones has been mainstreamed within the Republican party, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    It's a way to waive culpability for the culture that they're creating.

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    Having watched the vid its seems very similar to the new Zealand attack probably because of the go pro angle but still looked like he also wrote stuff on the rifle.

    Death or life in prison for that dude.
    Do you hear the voices too?

  10. #90
    Why the hell would you watch the livestreamed murder of actual people. Don't answer that - there's no good answer.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Why the hell would you watch the livestreamed murder of actual people. Don't answer that - there's no good answer.
    I didnt watch it live but curiosity i guess to see what people are capable off and how people react so it's not like i enjoy it i dont.
    Last edited by ParanoiD84; 2022-05-16 at 05:55 PM.
    Do you hear the voices too?

  12. #92
    https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news...s-aaron-salter

    Aaron Salter, the security guard at the store who attempted to stop the shooter, is a real G, though.

    Shame civilians in the US have easy access to all kinds of firepower and things like body armor to protect themselves before going on a shooting spree. Just like that time a few guys in CA knocked over a bank while wearing full body armor and the LAPD had to go to some local gun stores for some higher powered weapons because their service weapons were completely ineffective.

    Maybe like...ye average civilian doesn't need access to body armor. Or at least we wouldn't if getting shot in the US wasn't an apparently commonplace thing. Maybe I should look into a few comfy ones to start wearing around just in case some deeply inadequate white supremacist decides to go on a shooting spree in my neck of the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    I didnt watch it live but curiosity i guess to see what people are capable off and how people react so it's not like i enjoy it i dont.
    You wanted to see people's reactions to terror? To being shot? This is not a thing to be curious about. Please be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Because democrats are pussies and won’t confront obvious racism and insanity. They’re still playing by some “gentlemen’s rules” that the republicans trashed years ago.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Oh you do. Mass shootings can happen anywhere. There might be less of a chance, but they can still happen. There are too many guns in the world. And not all smugglers can be stopped.
    Not saying they are 100% non existent elsewhere, but this mass shooting frenzy is mostly just a "US thing".

    ...unless you are talking about havens such as Brazil or Mongolia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Because democrats are pussies and won’t confront obvious racism and insanity. They’re still playing by some “gentlemen’s rules” that the republicans trashed years ago.
    its more "you cant shame the shameless"
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
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  17. #97
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...sacre-1354190/

    Decent article on how easy access to body armor likely enabled the shooter to survive being shot by security guard Aaron Salter, or at least not have it interrupt his shooting very much. And how there have been attempts to limit easy access to this kind of equipment that have previously failed.

    Such a body armor ban, had it been in effect, may have provided a level of deterrence to the gunman, who complained bitterly in his manifesto of the state’s “cucked” firearms restrictions and his inability to shop for a better rifle online.
    This is some omega-cringe from literal fuckin neo-nazi's. Can't be bothered to go out to the store to pick up supplies for their planned mass shooting, they need it delivered to their front doors alongside the doordash driver dropping off some chicken tendies.

    Love right wing losers still being absolutely obsessed with cucks and cuckoldry, especially since they're truly the biggest cucks around.

    I mean, neo-nazi Nick Fuentes is out there arguing that dating women is get and that he, a dateless incel who just jerks off to who knows what kinda porn, is the pinnacle of heterosexual masculinity.

    I'm sorry y'all, but if you're a guy dating a woman that's apparently pretty gay. Having heterosexual sex is also pretty gay. The only way to be straight is to be an incel - https://twitter.com/KelgoreTrout/sta...11771858952192

    There's a video of him saying these things on video.

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    "...letter is a rambling pastiche (SAT word!) of slogans and internet memes, some of which flatly contradict one another."

    Like...Tucker...bro...that's literally the American conservative movement to a T right now. I don't think you could have explained it any better.

    "The document is not recognizably left wing, or right wing. It's not really political at all."

    I mean...it is. It very much is. It's very much in-line with many of the other far-right extremists we've seen over the years.

    Carlson just out there continuing to create a fictional version of reality for his viewers who can't be bothered to check objective reality themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "...letter is a rambling pastiche (SAT word!) of slogans and internet memes, some of which flatly contradict one another."

    Like...Tucker...bro...that's literally the American conservative movement to a T right now. I don't think you could have explained it any better.

    "The document is not recognizably left wing, or right wing. It's not really political at all."

    I mean...it is. It very much is. It's very much in-line with many of the other far-right extremists we've seen over the years.

    Carlson just out there continuing to create a fictional version of reality for his viewers who can't be bothered to check objective reality themselves.
    It's also coming out that he probably just straight-up plagiarized whole sections off earlier shooters, like the Christchurch shooter's manifesto, meaning these words aren't even accurately an expression of the Buffalo shooter's personal views, really.

    https://www.wivb.com/news/buffalo-su...cement-theory/

    A document being incoherently political does not make it not political, it just means the author was incoherent and probably ignorant as fuck about basic terminology and definitions.


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