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    Quote Originally Posted by bullseyed View Post
    Countries in Europe ceded their sovereignty to the EU. Europe is therefore a country.
    No we didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    As someone that has played in many, many metal bands, you are painting with way too broad a brush. You can find a great group interview with Rick Beato and a handful of the most accomplished metal guitarists producing new music right now, and all of them say that theory is not the basis for their writing, nor are any of them particularly theory adept. I don't buy into these ideas that theory is useless or bad to learn, as some do, but you can't paint all of metal with that broad a brush.
    Yeah, as a metal singer and drummer myself I agree.

    Music theory doesn't really mean much when it comes to extreme music. It's actually usually considered rather basic or straight up wrong when it comes to standard music theory. I learned some theory when I wanted to study music and even though it explained some stuff, it didn't mean much in long run.

    To me metal was never really complex when it comes to melody and harmony. However it definitely is complex when it comes to rhythm and execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
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    I know of many bands from Europe, like one called Falconer which split up in 2020 which was a folk metal band.

    I also been listening to Nightwish,Blind Guardian,Hammerfall,Rhapsody of fire and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinChan View Post
    It's because America is more diverse. It's nothing complicated.
    Yes, a single country is more diverse than a geographic region of 44-50 countries (depending on how you count). Makes total sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    Yeah, as a metal singer and drummer myself I agree.

    Music theory doesn't really mean much when it comes to extreme music. It's actually usually considered rather basic or straight up wrong when it comes to standard music theory. I learned some theory when I wanted to study music and even though it explained some stuff, it didn't mean much in long run.

    To me metal was never really complex when it comes to melody and harmony. However it definitely is complex when it comes to rhythm and execution.
    That's a great point, especially in the most modern extreme music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    Yeah, as a metal singer and drummer myself I agree.

    Music theory doesn't really mean much when it comes to extreme music. It's actually usually considered rather basic or straight up wrong when it comes to standard music theory. I learned some theory when I wanted to study music and even though it explained some stuff, it didn't mean much in long run.

    To me metal was never really complex when it comes to melody and harmony. However it definitely is complex when it comes to rhythm and execution.
    Yup.

    I have noticed this.

    Play something by say Taylor swift or so, and people are like "you're playing my favorite song"


    Play something by Iron Maiden,Dio, Amon Amarth or such and then people are like "is that supposed to be music?"

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    Ive been listening to Metal for about 25 years, and there is not a SINGLE good band from the US. They...cant, do Metal. Literally, cant. Its like 80% finnish, rest swe, nor, den and germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    Wish I could speak European...
    Theirs like 30 different languages you need to specify lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullseyed View Post
    Countries in Europe ceded their sovereignty to the EU. Europe is therefore a country.
    God is the public school bad in the US. It’s sad to see how dumb the average Joe is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullseyed View Post
    Countries in Europe ceded their sovereignty to the EU. Europe is therefore a country. Leave the EU if you don't like it.

    No different than the States that make up the USA.
    No it did not. Are you dense? They are literally all seperate countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    God is the public school bad in the US. It’s sad to see how dumb the average Joe is.
    The way he threw the word "sovereignty" like that, in relation to EU no less, makes me think he's a Brexiteer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Theirs like 30 different languages you need to specify lmao.
    No Europe is one country, didn't you read the OP? /sarcasm

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    There is a really easy answer to this. America is more diverse, with more options, and likely far more musical styles to be exposed to on a daily basis. There will always be people stuck in the Top40, Japan, Brazil, whatever EU countries may apply are no different.

    I think it's important to recognize that a niche visible market isn't representative of a massive popularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillMcfuu View Post
    There is a really easy answer to this. America is more diverse, with more options, and likely far more musical styles to be exposed to on a daily basis. There will always be people stuck in the Top40, Japan, Brazil, whatever EU countries may apply are no different.

    I think it's important to recognize that a niche visible market isn't representative of a massive popularity.
    I would love to see the data behind it, though. Can you confirm that USA has a more diverse music industry than other countries?
    Because that sure sounds like completely bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axelthefox View Post
    Yup.

    I have noticed this.

    Play something by say Taylor swift or so, and people are like "you're playing my favorite song"


    Play something by Iron Maiden,Dio, Amon Amarth or such and then people are like "is that supposed to be music?"
    Why do you even care? It doesn't really mean much.

    I get it, the music I listen to is intense and not really accessible. I can't really imagine blasting out The Dillinger Escape Plan or Every Time I Die when people just want to have a drink and chill. It's completely understandable.

    Extreme music is special to me because it made sense out of all the emotions I was feeling inside while growing up. You can't really listen to such music while it plays on the background and that's why I love it. It commands attention and it's a cathartic experience.

    I think it requires you to know these songs in order to enjoy them on casual level, otherwise they are simply way too busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    Please refrain from calling Europe a country.
    But Europe is a country, made up of several states such as Germany, Spain, France, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Theirs like 30 different languages you need to specify lmao.
    Wishy washy much? Sounds like the EU need to make up their mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    No it did not. Are you dense? They are literally all seperate countries.
    They are states, maybe one day when they grow up they will be countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    But Europe is a country, made up of several states such as Germany, Spain, France, etc.

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    Wishy washy much? Sounds like the EU need to make up their mind.

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    They are states, maybe one day when they grow up they will be countries.
    Europe is a continent made up of different countries, the U.S.A. is a country made up of different states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    They are states, maybe one day when they grow up they will be countries.
    Ah yes, just like the US might someday grow up and become a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gblSweet View Post
    I would love to see the data behind it, though. Can you confirm that USA has a more diverse music industry than other countries?
    Because that sure sounds like completely bullshit.
    You mean a country with a wildly diverse population from the entire world filled with countless cultures, vs 2 racially homogenous countries and the EU which is made up of pretty much all racially homogenous countries and limited cultures? Do I really need to find data for what is clearly a common sense statement? Brazilians live here, Japanese live here, and all sorts of EU country members live here... in decently great numbers.

    So yeah, common sense statement, in a country with a diverse population, the people in that country will be exposed to an eclectic musical selection. Metal just has more competition here. And honestly Metal had its time in the 80s.

    You are also taking the statement that Metal is more popular or has a wider fanbase in other countries, completely on face value. Have you asked for the statistics to back that up? I've been to a number of metal, rock, etc... shows I've seen nothing indicating there wasn't a healthy mix of people there.

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