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    "The police were doing nothing," Angeli Rose Gomez, a parent of two children at Robb Elementary School, told the newspaper. "They were just standing outside the fence. They weren't going in there or running anywhere."

    The Journal reported that Gomez "was one of numerous parents who began encouraging—first politely, and then with more urgency—police and other law enforcement to enter the school sooner."

    "After a few minutes, she said, U.S. Marshals put her in handcuffs, telling her she was being arrested for intervening in an active investigation," according to the Journal. "She said she saw a father tackled and thrown to the ground by police and a third pepper-sprayed. Once freed from her cuffs, Ms. Gomez made her distance from the crowd, jumped the school fence, and ran inside to grab her two children. She sprinted out of the school with them."
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...valde-shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I think a major issue in the US is a lack of caring and honesty from politicians. I think both sides are pretty self-serving, even if I agree with Democratic views.
    Everyone is self serving to a degree. And if you're a professional "decision maker", you will get detached from the emotional side from it. Just like a surgeon better be detached from treating the slab of meat on his table. You don't want emotions, you want professionalism in some jobs.

    It's really hard for me to understand people's constant paranoia about politicians honesty. I don't give a shit if they're honest or not. I want something, they promise to do something, if they don't do it, I won't support them next time around. It's not that frickin' hard. Of course, I'm talking about a population that voted Trump into office. It's so easy to blame politicians lying when the harsher truth is that most Americans are just too.. um, one-dimensional and/or lost in their ideological trench wars to see the big picture. This whole gun debate is a perfect example for that.
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    Conservatives keep trying to spin damage control for these cops, but nothing is going to empower potential school shooters more than seeing a bunch of cops be to cowardly to even stop them. A little more ammo and a little more active of a shooter after 40 minutes means there might not be much of a school left to rescue.

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    Nothing classes up a thread about 21 dead people in a school like someone being an obsessive, angry pedant. Sheesh.
    Apparently there just isn't enough disgusting and shitty behavior surrounding this event.

  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Toronto police fatally shoot man carrying gun by three schools

    ...I can't even, I mean really this guy wanted to suicide or something.
    Dang, even the Canadians are outgunning the US police now... embarassing.
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  6. #586
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    No, that was Sandy Hook. Republicans made it abundantly clear they don't care how many kids die.

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    It's Rafael Cruz's favorite topic: We don't need gun control, we need door control.
    Columbine taught us that lesson long before Sandy Hook.

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    Massive incompetency or something else?...

  8. #588
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Columbine taught us that lesson long before Sandy Hook.
    I'll give America on mulligan on, "Well, just one mass shooting of children isn't enough to shock us." but Sandy Hook made it crystal clear that no amount of dead kids will spur roughly half of this country towards any action.

    Which, ironically, is largely the same half the country screaming about the SANCTITY OF LIFE AND SAVING BABIES.

    I guess once you're outta the womb you gotta get strapped and defend yourself between learning your state capitol and playing wallball at recess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'll give America on mulligan on, "Well, just one mass shooting of children isn't enough to shock us." but Sandy Hook made it crystal clear that no amount of dead kids will spur roughly half of this country towards any action.

    Which, ironically, is largely the same half the country screaming about the SANCTITY OF LIFE AND SAVING BABIES.

    I guess once you're outta the womb you gotta get strapped and defend yourself between learning your state capitol and playing wallball at recess.
    They won't care about a fetus if it gets shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    They won't care about a fetus if it gets shot.
    "The mother and fetus should have moved out of the way of the FREEDOM METAL that was just seeking to bring FREEDOM to more places and LIBERATE the fetus from the unjustified imprisonment in the body of the mother."

    Brought to you by the same folks that unironically tried calling fossil fuels "freedom molecules".

    The conservatives brain trust is down to its last few cells.

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    https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2022...alde-shooting/

    Even Abbott is throwing local cops under the bus.

    “I am livid about what happened,” Abbott said during a news conference in Uvalde, the site of the shooting where a gunman killed 19 students and two adults Tuesday. “The information I was given turned out, in part, to be inaccurate, and I am absolutely livid about that.”
    Yeah, maybe like...don't do shit like this?

    In his first news conference after the shooting, Abbott had praised how police handled the shooting, applauding their "amazing courage."

    “It could have been worse. The reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do,” he said Wednesday.
    Before you have the full information. And also maybe don't go to a fundraiser afterwards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "The mother and fetus should have moved out of the way of the FREEDOM METAL that was just seeking to bring FREEDOM to more places and LIBERATE the fetus from the unjustified imprisonment in the body of the mother."

    Brought to you by the same folks that unironically tried calling fossil fuels "freedom molecules".

    The conservatives brain trust is down to its last few cells.
    It's all pretend, because what the modern republican party really boils down to is contrarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ys/9959949002/
    In this everchanging shitshow full of lies and misinformation/disinformation we are now seeing this.


    So the two injured cops seemed to have received grazing wounds.



    That commander needs to be fired pronto, as well as any of the people who knowingly lied to try and cover up this departments mistakes.
    They are going to say they weren't funded to train/arm/respond.

    Worse is that (AFAIK) the various institutions that fund them, from the WH to the city, are letting that rhetoric fly.

    Someone is going to end up preemptively shooting another person because they suspect the person might become a shooter if we can't count on law enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'll give America on mulligan on, "Well, just one mass shooting of children isn't enough to shock us." but Sandy Hook made it crystal clear that no amount of dead kids will spur roughly half of this country towards any action.

    Which, ironically, is largely the same half the country screaming about the SANCTITY OF LIFE AND SAVING BABIES.

    I guess once you're outta the womb you gotta get strapped and defend yourself between learning your state capitol and playing wallball at recess.
    https://www.ranker.com/list/scary-sc.../natalie-hazen

    Not all of them apply really, but in 96 we had a middle school kid shoot up his school. 89 we had a guy use an assault rifle to murder elementary school kids. 88 had an asshole try to do a Sandy Hook, but he only had a .22 pistol. There are others in there. Nothing moves the needle for these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    They are going to say they weren't funded to train/arm/respond.

    Worse is that (AFAIK) the various institutions that fund them, from the WH to the city, are letting that rhetoric fly.
    Cop worship is so strong in the US that even Biden will praise these useless excrements for their "heroism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Cop worship is so strong in the US that even Biden will praise these useless excrements for their "heroism".
    Well of course he has to. We've repeatedly been told by conservatives that if we don't constantly praise and butter up law enforcement for *checks notes* doing the job they're getting paid by taxpayers to do, then they just won't do that job.

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    https://thehill.com/news/3504498-cru...n-nra-address/

    “What stops armed bad guys is armed good guys,” he said, arguing that lawmakers’ proposal to expand background checks on gun sales wouldn’t prevent most mass murders
    Rafael Cruz, speaking at the NRA convention, apparently memory holing that the past three (I believe) mass shootings at schools all included "good guys with guns" who failed to stop the shooters.

    Republicans. Just. Like. Dead. Kids.

    Cruz called for every school to have a single point of entry guarded by multiple armed police officers, or if need be, military veterans. He added that schools should have bulletproof and locking doors to each classroom.
    Ah yes, not a fire hazard at all. Also, I love that the response is to basically militarize our schools.

    Who's gonna pay for all this by the way? Since Republicans won't add new taxes to support spending and all.

    Fuckin immoral, gross, pathetic human beings who love to see dead kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Who's gonna pay for all this by the way?
    Oh no no no no. Hell no. Someone has to volunteer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Oh no no no no. Hell no. Someone has to volunteer.
    Who's gonna volunteer to rebuild the schools with single points of entry? To build the fencing and other barriers? I mean, I'm sure they can find some folks that would be excited to patrol schools with guns on the lookout for shooters, but those are also probably the exact kind of people you do not want armed and around children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Who's gonna volunteer to rebuild the schools with single points of entry? To build the fencing and other barriers? I mean, I'm sure they can find some folks that would be excited to patrol schools with guns on the lookout for shooters, but those are also probably the exact kind of people you do not want armed and around children.
    I'll set up a gofundme right now to own the libs. Almost none some of the proceeds will actually go that and not my private yacht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    [Literally the rest of the world proves this wrong, but again. Republicans just really seem to like dead kids.
    Nah, there really is a much larger issue.

    Specifically, the issue is the continued existence Republican party.

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    https://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...l-human-right/

    NRA head Wayne LaPierre told his group’s members that the Uvalde mass shooting “should never happen again” but rejected gun control proposals, calling gun ownership a “fundamental human right.
    In which the "pro-gun" crowd continues to show how absolutely batshit insane they are, and continue to promote ideologies and policies that will result in more dead Americans, and especially children.

    The conservative movement in the US still seems very pro-dead kids.

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