Poll: Do you think Delaryn and other Forsaken night elves will ever rejoin the Alliance?

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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    Blizzard doesn't do undead in the alliance.
    Because despite that we have seen, that the alliance WOULD be willing to reconnect with relatives it will never be talked about again.

    Also for some reason people who got ressurected into undeath get a 100% personality change... even if it has only been like 5 minutes unless you are resurrected into undeath by a Naaru....
    You HAVE to be emo and only wear black/purple/brown if you are undead. Also you suddenly like to work with the people who literally killed you and nearly all of your people...
    And somehow being “bitter and angry” only applies to your friends and comrades in arms but not against those who killed and/or tortured you mere minutes or hours before. No, with them you will be super polite and obedient. But its totes not mind control.

    God, Blizz really fucked up when they tried to cram two entire antithetical versions of undead into one.

  2. #102
    Honest answer? No not at all. Delaryn will stay Horde for now.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by VladlTutushkin View Post
    And somehow being “bitter and angry” only applies to your friends and comrades in arms but not against those who killed and/or tortured you mere minutes or hours before. No, with them you will be super polite and obedient. But its totes not mind control.

    God, Blizz really fucked up when they tried to cram two entire antithetical versions of undead into one.
    Oh well to be fair the normal non light undeath did not make sense even without the light undeath....

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    Oh well to be fair the normal non light undeath did not make sense even without the light undeath....
    Neither of these should have ever been written, no more that most of BFA and Shadowlands.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    Oh well to be fair the normal non light undeath did not make sense even without the light undeath....
    Oh i meant the “evil necromancers raise your friends against you” trope and “free will above all” tropes.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Eosia View Post
    So whereas Tyrande met Thalyssra with scorn, accusations, and ultimately rejection, Lady Liadrin and the other High Elves met them with empathy and compassion. Who is to say that these Forsaken Night Elves won't get the same treatment? No matter what mitigating circumstances may exist, there will always be some who will reject them for siding with Sylvanas even if only briefly.
    Literally the only time they see each other he treats them well and asks them to come back.
    Under your logic they should join the Alliance right away. Both Tyrande and Maiev treated them well.

    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    Blizzard doesn't do undead in the alliance.
    Because despite that we have seen, that the alliance WOULD be willing to reconnect with relatives it will never be talked about again.

    Also for some reason people who got ressurected into undeath get a 100% personality change... even if it has only been like 5 minutes unless you are resurrected into undeath by a Naaru....
    You HAVE to be emo and only wear black/purple/brown if you are undead. Also you suddenly like to work with the people who literally killed you and nearly all of your people...
    You mean the death knights?

    And that the Kaldorei accepted the 3 things they would never accept.
    The racism that the Kaldorei and the Alliance should have. They dont have it.
    Last edited by geco; 2022-07-05 at 03:26 PM.

  7. #107
    It's not like the Forsaken needs them. They're just some extra flavor for the faction, would make more sense to add that flavor to the night elves. Far more interesting to have undead individuals in a society that practically worships life than having them hanging around Horde-aligned undead. Undead who are all probably wondering why Del and her posse are still there.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    It's not like the Forsaken needs them. They're just some extra flavor for the faction, would make more sense to add that flavor to the night elves. Far more interesting to have undead individuals in a society that practically worships life than having them hanging around Horde-aligned undead. Undead who are all probably wondering why Del and her posse are still there.
    “We only needed them as disposable fodder for the battle cause we had not enough troops and also to create another war crime for the sake of psychological warfare… Why the fuck are they still hanging around?”

    “Dude i dont know, like, they should be tearing my eyes out at any second but its like they all went dumb and dont see that we just needed them as scary disgusting footsoldiers for a war that is over while people who may still care about them and their whole culture and legacy are behind the ocean on Kalimdor.”

    “Weird shit dude.”

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by VladlTutushkin View Post
    “We only needed them as disposable fodder for the battle cause we had not enough troops and also to create another war crime for the sake of psychological warfare… Why the fuck are they still hanging around?”

    “Dude i dont know, like, they should be tearing my eyes out at any second but its like they all went dumb and dont see that we just needed them as scary disgusting footsoldiers for a war that is over while people who may still care about them and their whole culture and legacy are behind the ocean on Kalimdor.”

    “Weird shit dude.”
    Funnily enough this describes night elf alliance relations as well XD

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Funnily enough this describes night elf alliance relations as well XD
    Night Elves in Alliance rather than being their own faction has never been explained (that I'm aware of), and the reasons are real world.

    - The devs wanted "playable Scourge" and thought they fit more with the monster races of the Horde. Therefore, they needed another race for Alliance.
    - They couldn't figure out how to have more than two factions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    Night Elves in Alliance rather than being their own faction has never been explained (that I'm aware of), and the reasons are real world.

    - The devs wanted "playable Scourge" and thought they fit more with the monster races of the Horde. Therefore, they needed another race for Alliance.
    - They couldn't figure out how to have more than two factions.
    The night elves likely lost a huge part of their power with Cenarius and many other nature beings killed during the Third War, plus Nordrassil got nearly wiped out and they also lost their immortality. Post-W3 night elves were literally no match for the combined forces of the orcs, tauren and trolls, who also got Sylvanas and her Forsaken further bolstering them.
    "You see, there is balance in all things. Wisdom etched in our very fur: Black and white. Darkness and light. When the last emperor hid our land from the rest of the world, he also preserved...our ancient enemy, the mantid. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They are not strong despite one another; they are strong BECAUSE of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness. Do you see this?"

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by OwenBurton View Post
    The night elves likely lost a huge part of their power with Cenarius and many other nature beings killed during the Third War, plus Nordrassil got nearly wiped out and they also lost their immortality. Post-W3 night elves were literally no match for the combined forces of the orcs, tauren and trolls, who also got Sylvanas and her Forsaken further bolstering them.
    Like one thing that comes to mind and many confuse.
    It's just that the people don't want the Kaldorei to conquer Ogrimar or the desert.

    They want them to be able to defend their forest and only their forest. Because the forest literally fights alongside them against the Horde.

    If the lore were correct almost all the NPCs that live in the Kaldorei Forests would have to be on the side of the Kaldorei even the animals XD.

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