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  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by Starfals View Post

    Funny cus everyone that i know thinks Cata is one of the best expansions, right next to Wrath. Me and my friends never understood the whole - "Cata feels meh, its not a great expansion, or its boring" kind of thinking.

    The zones, the music, the story, the whole world was remade... literally WOW 2.0... and new races. It had it all. I never had more fun in PVP either. Cata and Pandaria had the most fun PVP for me. PVE was a ton of fun too, but not my favorite of all the expansions. Still, overall... its way up there (quality wise)
    Ultimately, in hindsight, Cata was a great expansion. I freely admit that. But the general consensus before release was not good. Dragonflight feels much the same. The community seems really against what's been presented so far and in knowing how poorly received Cata was pre-launch, my kneejerk reaction to everyone saying it feels rushed, or feels like it has little content, is just to be patient.

    MoP had similar uphill battles with convincing the community it was worth playing as the Pandaren race/lore was entirely based on a joke. The critics back then were just as ruthless. But ultimately it succeeded and was a good time. Probably my second favorite overall.
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  2. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by mgvsquared View Post
    Ultimately, in hindsight, Cata was a great expansion. I freely admit that. But the general consensus before release was not good. Dragonflight feels much the same. The community seems really against what's been presented so far and in knowing how poorly received Cata was pre-launch, my kneejerk reaction to everyone saying it feels rushed, or feels like it has little content, is just to be patient.

    MoP had similar uphill battles with convincing the community it was worth playing as the Pandaren race/lore was entirely based on a joke. The critics back then were just as ruthless. But ultimately it succeeded and was a good time. Probably my second favorite overall.
    This is an insightful post.
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    Makes sense considering how much work they're saving with one of the big features being the "talent rework", which consists of stripping out baseline abilities and passives while and slapping in some legendary powers or old set bonuses to fill in the gaps. Talent recycling is a more appropriate term for what they're doing with the talent tree, cause it sure as hell isn't being made from anything "new".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    I wouldn't. I suspect the weight of such an item is why we got the shoddy book(s) with BFA instead of one of the larger art books.
    There are plenty of free space there. I don't think that the reason why we're getting books with lower count of pages are the bonus items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgvsquared View Post
    Ultimately, in hindsight, Cata was a great expansion. I freely admit that. But the general consensus before release was not good. Dragonflight feels much the same. The community seems really against what's been presented so far and in knowing how poorly received Cata was pre-launch, my kneejerk reaction to everyone saying it feels rushed, or feels like it has little content, is just to be patient.

    MoP had similar uphill battles with convincing the community it was worth playing as the Pandaren race/lore was entirely based on a joke. The critics back then were just as ruthless. But ultimately it succeeded and was a good time. Probably my second favorite overall.
    No sorry, it wasn't. But they did the same with Cata WoD and SL (ironically not for BfA); they cut the game down by 1 Patch and moved on to the next expansion. Sorry, but every dum dum screaming here for "THIS EXPANSION IS RUSHED" have absolutely no idea. They already said that they are actually ahead on the expansion and i believe it.

    Simply because this time we don't have a convenant, azerite armor, soulbinds or something like this that require massive testing and balancing. There are no temporary powers that can interact with the class, instead we get the basics (FINALLY) and flying and an new ui for professions. Sorry, but really, what do people think needs months and monts of testing. The answer is: new stuff that are the first time in an expansion. And really, testing how to fly does not take months, test if the ui for professions work does not take months and REALLY, the TALENT TREES?

    We had a small thing called CLASSIC WOW. Do people think that the devs that work there live in their classic-bubble. Nope. Because the difference between Talents in Classic and the one in Shadowlands is actually the UI, that's all.

    Dear "RUSHED"-Screamers: please tell me honestly what would take MONTHS to test, PLEASE.

    And sorry, but i don't doubt that the game will be good; there hasn't been a SINGLE wow-expansion where leveling wasn't good, the singleplayer-endgame is the biggest issue of wow, but not the leveling.

  6. #386
    Does anyone actually think 10.0 is this year? Or did Blizz just throw out the date so they can start taking preorders to boost WoW's income numbers for the quarter?

  7. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Velerios View Post
    No sorry, it wasn't. But they did the same with Cata WoD and SL (ironically not for BfA); they cut the game down by 1 Patch and moved on to the next expansion. Sorry, but every dum dum screaming here for "THIS EXPANSION IS RUSHED" have absolutely no idea. They already said that they are actually ahead on the expansion and i believe it.

    Simply because this time we don't have a convenant, azerite armor, soulbinds or something like this that require massive testing and balancing. There are no temporary powers that can interact with the class, instead we get the basics (FINALLY) and flying and an new ui for professions. Sorry, but really, what do people think needs months and monts of testing. The answer is: new stuff that are the first time in an expansion. And really, testing how to fly does not take months, test if the ui for professions work does not take months and REALLY, the TALENT TREES?

    We had a small thing called CLASSIC WOW. Do people think that the devs that work there live in their classic-bubble. Nope. Because the difference between Talents in Classic and the one in Shadowlands is actually the UI, that's all.

    Dear "RUSHED"-Screamers: please tell me honestly what would take MONTHS to test, PLEASE.

    And sorry, but i don't doubt that the game will be good; there hasn't been a SINGLE wow-expansion where leveling wasn't good, the singleplayer-endgame is the biggest issue of wow, but not the leveling.
    Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on which expansions we think were good, though the glaring lack of the Abyssal Maw still stings.

    But you're right. Not much will need testing. Even if there's a mission style system, ala Garrisons, Order Halls, BfA, or Shadowlands, it's usually been a streamlined version of the iteration that came before, I suppose except for the Covenant Command Table, but if we see anything like that in Dragonflight, it's already been pretty well worked out on how it'll operate...not much testing to be done. They can and probably have tested much of the quest content in house. So what, we'll get an extended beta for the playerbase to work out bugs and kinks.

    Though I do wonder if we'll get some kind of Covenant-style pledging to a Dragonflight. Still so much they haven't shown us.
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  8. #388
    Yeah, i actually still wanna see the Abyssal Maw It was such a cool idea. The Azshara patch in BFA kind of gave me what I want, but I'm sure it wasn't going to be 1-1. Its a whole other story for starters. Still, I got my fix with that patch, so its not all too bad. What I really wanted was an Nzod zone + a 5 man dungeon during BFA. Argus style of a patch, not just redoing old zones, which was cool but not as cool as it could have been.

  9. #389
    Last day of the year lmao nah they obviously gonna delay it guys calm down. Probably want some good news for the share holders after the shit show

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    Holy shit this is going to be super rushed
    It's going to be a short expac.
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    Cata hmm, changed my mind somewhat in regards to it. I consired it a total disaster but I moved to thinking it could have been great but they blew it on two points.
    The big thing was revamping and to be honest, half of the zones seems like the had half the time budget they needed, they were unpolished.
    And the last raid, Deathwing... that was a clusterfuck.

    Apart from that I look back with fond memories on for example the dungeons that I thnk overall were great and some other bits. Sadly it still cant carry the two very important letdowns for me.
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  12. #392
    I don't trust this release date at all,just sound like a super rush expansion or last money grab by Bobby Kotick till microsoft take over

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