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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    I do not remember Apexis rewarding heroic raid loot, I remember it awarding extremely inferior loot. I remember you could choose between a total of 2 (!) oh so amazing daily quests, where you filled up a bar in some part of some zone and you could get a bunch of crystals, which awarded laughably bad gear, or a bunch of recolored boars and wolves.

    Anything that doesn't lead to meaningful character progression or isn't intrinsically fun is not content. Sure you could kill random npcs in Frostfire Ridge for no point whatsoever and claim it was content. But to the vast majority of sane players it was not.

    Therefore Warlords was an insanely unpopular, content-light expansion, made for raidloggers only and is remembered as the low point of WoW to this day.
    It was trash rewards until the final oatch. With that is had some things for some alts and that was about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    No it was pretty damn good gear I used a few pieces progressing through early mythics. Some of the stats were not ideal but it was hardly garbage. Still why are you fixated on rewards when it comes to judging the quality of content?

    Would mage tower be less fun if it had no rewards?
    Baleful gear was gear for alts and and not much else. In rare cases the trinkets were okay for a few specs. It certain wasn't what you would want to do to go into heroics or mythics
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by bullseyed View Post
    You obviously don't play WoW. Go log in to retail and you'll be limited to 25 quests.
    You never distinguished that you were talking about the main quest log. The way you worded your post with "world quests" and "25 limit" implied you were talking about the daily quest limit which was 25 until Patch 5.0.4 went live a decade ago like I pointed out.

    It might be "silly" to still have it be 25, but there's a reason for it. You're talking code the goes all the way back to 1.x. Ever hear them talk about expanding the Backpack? But simpletons thought all they had to do was go in and modify some code in there. It doesn't work that way. You have no idea what all that old code looks like or what it's tied to. If you played long enough, you might remember the keyring that we had in Patch 1.11 until 4.2? Yeah, they took that away and repurposed that section of the code for Void Storage which, while big in appearance, was simply a list of item IDs. That's why all reforging/gems/enchantements/etc. were stripped on deposit and why no unique items (e.g. Legendaries), stackable items, etc. could not go in.

    Not to mention Blizzard sometimes will simply design around a limitation that it cannot directly change, or one that they feel should not be changed. Currencies, for the most part, are no longer physical items to carry. Neither are mini pets and mounts. The transmog system was upgraded so that you no longer had to have the item somewhere, simply have it bound to you. Before then Void Storage was a great place to store transmog gear like old tier sets and such.

    So tell me, why are you hitting the limit in your quest log? How many old quests do you have rotting in your log? Complete them or drop them if it's such a problem. When you're leveling, doing end-game activities, etc., there is no possible way that you will fill up your quest log with everything in a zone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myradin View Post
    You obviously missed what he's taking about. He's not talking about the quest log size.

    Pre-mop there was a cap on how many dailies you could do a day.
    Yup... and that limit was.... 25.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Alvito View Post
    It was trash rewards until the final oatch. With that is had some things for some alts and that was about it.

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    Baleful gear was gear for alts and and not much else. In rare cases the trinkets were okay for a few specs. It certain wasn't what you would want to do to go into heroics or mythics
    Was talking about apexsis the currency everyone was constantly getting but no one remembers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soikona View Post
    Its a fantastic battle royal game, so maybe see WoW go action combat??
    Why would they need to buy a company to completely fuck up their game's combat mode?
    And yeah, action combat would cause the biggest drop of subs ever. It's too big of a change in the most important part of the game and action combat is crap anyway.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Tentim View Post
    Was talking about apexsis the currency everyone was constantly getting but no one remembers.
    Which you bought Baleful gear with. Besides that it had no in game value. Nobody remembers it, because the quests were as worthless as the rewards and a colossal waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvito View Post
    Which you bought Baleful gear with. Besides that it had no in game value. Nobody remembers it, because the quests were as worthless as the rewards and a colossal waste of time.
    If it had no value why were people doing farm raids in order to gain them? You could buy bonus rolls for them which ensured that the crystals had value. 3,500 for all 3 bonus rolls. You had pets and other stuff as well that could be bought with them. It is silly to claim they had no in-game value. You might not have cared about those things but that doesn't mean they didn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    If it had no value why were people doing farm raids in order to gain them? You could buy bonus rolls for them which ensured that the crystals had value. 3,500 for all 3 bonus rolls. You had pets and other stuff as well that could be bought with them. It is silly to claim they had no in-game value. You might not have cared about those things but that doesn't mean they didn't exist.
    Bonus roles were not added until the end and the claim was heroic level loot which was not true. As for cosmetics you pointed out those do not change how people play so no in game value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvito View Post
    Bonus roles were not added until the end and the claim was heroic level loot which was not true. As for cosmetics you pointed out those do not change how people play so no in game value.
    Bonus rolls existed for Apexis from the start of WoD. It was not the only way to acquire them but it is again silly to claim they didn't exist. You seem to be ignoring anything that doesn't fit your viewpoint rather then dealing in just facts.
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