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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Unlimited Power View Post
    Have the first movie end with Arthas murdering his father. I think that'd work as a fairly self-contained story with potential for a sequel.
    I think WC story works better as a series. There are clear points where the story breaks that they can be used as high point episode endings (Malganis leaving Arthas in a smoldering Stratholme, Arthas killing his father, Arthas destroying the Sunwell, etc.)

  2. #142
    If this happens, i'll be excited.

    I really liked the 2016 film. They really nailed the whole orc storyline with characters, visuals, battles, interactions. The human storyline was a bit cringe, and needed some improvements.

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    The problem with the 2016 movie was that it had like 8 different main characters which resulted in awful pacing
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Any investors funding this deserve the losses they would incur. What a ridiculous idea. The first movie was a disaster, and with the decline in the game (and in Blizzard) since then this would be far worse.
    Despite being a domestic failure, the movie didn't really suffer major financial losses. I think total losses was reported to be around $15m, which really isn't that much when we're talking about hundreds of millions spent on production and marketting.

    They did poorly in the US box office, but made up for it in the overseas market. It's still considered the highest grossing videogame movie. The only difference now is that the overseas market is unreliable, especially with China and Russia's contribution to box office taking quite a hit from recent politics. They would have to make a better overall this time around.
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  5. #145
    Can't see them trying a movie again when all the other game developers are pushing animated series.

    And speaking of which, whatever happened to supposed Diablo and OW ones on Netflix? They were announced like 4 or 5 years ago...

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    I just hope they get a good human cast. Thats what honestly hurt the first film the Orc side was great but the actors they got for the humans (and Garona) were terrible.

    Best thing they could do is make it animated.
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    I just hope they get a good human cast. Thats what honestly hurt the first film the Orc side was great but the actors they got for the humans (and Garona) were terrible.

    Best thing they could do is make it animated.
    Any human is going to look ridicilous next to those orcs

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Unlimited Power View Post
    Have the first movie end with Arthas murdering his father. I think that'd work as a fairly self-contained story with potential for a sequel.
    TBH they could make a movie of the Human campaign's cutscenes, not change much of the dialog, add a bunch of action sequences in stead of the gameplay (skirmish against the Orcs early on, then big battle in Hearthglen, massacre in Stratholme, final big battle in Northrend after he gets the sword) and you have a solid script as it is. Hell if they wanna be even more dramatic end the movie by breaking canon a bit and having Uther duel Arthas outside of the burning capital or somewhere suitable. But really having the finale be Terenas's murder works too.
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    Focus on Thrall and Grom Hellscream. A young Varian in Lordaeron having survived off screen past events (Gul'dan and Orcs successfully sacking Stormwind.) Make it about Terenas, Genn and the Alliance helping re-take Stormwind and defeat the Orcs. Ends with Orcs and Thrall being imprisoned in Durnholde. Hint at Arthas having been away training with the Silver Hand, the Legion and Ma'ganis.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    Any human is going to look ridicilous next to those orcs


    "Be feared, or be fuel.."

    Works just fine in this scene though, no? So why here, and not other scenes is what they have to get down.

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Well, sonuvabitch...I actually enjoyed watching that.
    Thank you!
    The acting is more convincing.
    The only cringe part is "For Azeroth!", which needs to be dropped. Your average human fights for Stormwind or the Alliance, not "Earth".

  12. #152
    I didnt HATE the movie, but it really didnt work as a movie. The pacing was terrible, and the story really convoluted for the casual, non-wow playing viewers. The visuals were actually pretty awesome, but Garona was bloody terrible. There were moments i wished they had just gona full cgi, which isnt good.
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  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    Focus on Thrall and Grom Hellscream. A young Varian in Lordaeron having survived off screen past events (Gul'dan and Orcs successfully sacking Stormwind.) Make it about Terenas, Genn and the Alliance helping re-take Stormwind and defeat the Orcs. Ends with Orcs and Thrall being imprisoned in Durnholde. Hint at Arthas having been away training with the Silver Hand, the Legion and Ma'ganis.
    Aaaaand you fall into the same trap as the first movie; too many plots lines, fluff, and characters to follow.

    That's what makes the Arthas story a good one to adapt. It's a fairly simple story that follows one central protagonist through a fully realized character arc. Only five other primary characters to keep track of (Uther, Jaina, Muradin, Kel'Thuzad, and Mal'Ganis) all of whom serve the main plot and the central protagonist's journey. You don't need to know the history of Lordaeron, the First or Second Wars, or all the connections between the Scourge, Ner'Zhul, or the Legion. No need to drag in the whole Alliance/Horde thing where you have two warring factions but neither one is "the good guys" or "the bad guys".
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  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by elderu View Post


    "Be feared, or be fuel.."

    Works just fine in this scene though, no? So why here, and not other scenes is what they have to get down.
    No I don't think it does. The humans are ridiculously small compared the orcs, that is not the case in the game(s).

    All the fight scenes in the movie look hilarious as a result. It's as if they cast midgets to fight bodybuilders.

    There's also the problem that imo all the human armor looks like plastic, for some reason.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    I'm surprised this flew under the radar. (not really surprised actually, lol)


    https://www.thathashtagshow.com/2022...n-development/





    I wonder who could play an adult Thrall realistically. Perhaps it's time for Metzen to dust off his acting chops once more.


    Events of the film: during the Second War?


    EDIT: Was thinking... maybe it's not such a bad idea to incorporate elements from the lore that isn't the basic, foundational "orcs versus human" era of Warcraft history. The first movie was heavy that, but with the "evil magic of the fel" and the imagery of Medivh becoming a demon. True fans knew what it alluded to, but not run-of-the-mill movie goers. Perhaps maybe taking place during the Third War but more focused on the rise of the Scourge?
    It should just be Thrall's story

    Thrall's story for Lord of the Clans, along with Arthas's story are probably the two most universally liked stories in Warcraft.
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  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    i am far more interested, besides your 2 facts (yes, what you said are objective facts, not an opinion), for what target audience this movie is made for.

    1)
    the 10 ppls that never heard of wow, but that are not interested anyway ?

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    the 1000 ppls still being a wow die hard fan wanting a great movie ?

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    the 10000000 ppls that left wow for good, were disapointed by first movie and completely lost interest in wow the last few years ? not sure you will make much money these days with them.

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    14 year old kids in 2022 that go „what is wow?“ or „a movie about a 17 year old game. great.“

    so, that said: doing a wow movie in the next 5 years sounds like suicide to me tbh.
    This sums it up. They were kinda late even with the original movie, WoW was already diving and making one now when the game is all but dead would make no sense.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    This sums it up. They were kinda late even with the original movie, WoW was already diving and making one now when the game is all but dead would make no sense.
    I never really understood this argument. How culturally relevant is League of Legends? Tons of people play it, sure, but outside of those, it's a relatively unknown franchise whose characters hadn't trascended the game at all. And even within the gaming community, there's an entire generation of kids playing online games (Minecraft, Fornite) who haven't touched it.

    And yet Arcane was a massive hit.

    That means that a good story and an engaging medium are all a franchise needs to find an audience, regardless of how popular or how old the source material is.

    So the argument shouldn't be "Warcraft isn't as big anymore, they shouldn't make movies/shows about it", it should be "Warcraft isn't as big anymore, they are going to need to work hard and do things right to get people into it, because they can't rely on their playerbase alone".

    Now, whether Blizzard, Universal or whoever ends up behind this are willing to commit the resources and effort it needs, is an entirely different thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Man, if they're gonna do a reboot just do the fucking Arthas arc and get it over with.
    After what they did with Arthas in Shadowlands, I can't help but think "I hope they leave Arthas fucking alone. Haven't they done enough to ruin his story already?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    An arthas movie wouldn't work out, since the "Arthas" arcs doesn't just cover him, but other characters as well. It'd need to be a series that covers the events of Warcraft 3 as a whole.
    Not really. The human campaign from WC3 in and of itself works pretty well as a standalone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    A Warcraft movie needs to be an original story, not an adaptation of the games. A 2 hour movie isn't going better tell the story of a 40 hour long game.
    That's the thing, though. The game doesn't have "40 hours of story". At best, in those 40 hours, we have 2 hours of story, 38 hours of gameplay, of us making our bases, mining gold and harvesting lumber, then building a small army, then upgrading our army's weapons and armor, then making better troops, attacking our enemies, etc, etc, rinse and repeat 6-7 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    This sums it up. They were kinda late even with the original movie, WoW was already diving and making one now when the game is all but dead would make no sense.
    yes, heavily agree.

    i can’t imagine who is pumping money into it (that much money, that it is at least same or better than first movie) after all what happened in the last 2 years at Blizz (wow player count, MS deal, harassments). foremost, as you said, at such a late point in time, in regards to wow‘s age. which investors are interested in a second movie wave of a 17 year old video game?

    even when ATVI Blizz „needs“ a movie as some franchise advertising, to keep wow alive. nah, this will not work well. foremost not together with some rather straight, simple, „nothing special“, standard xpac like DF. if the next xpac would be a Legion‘esque revival xpac or some „here we go again“ hyped xpac marketing, with a xpac centering around stuff ppls long awaited or a massive amount of new features, or when pumped a lot of effort and money into it, well… then maybe. but DF (as good as it maybe will become) not fits that and more looks like a dumpster fire, standard or filler xpac. nothing to link a giant movie with, in a giant marketing campaign, to make wow great again.

    tbh: i have a rather hard time to imagine who would invest money (even Blizz) in another wow movie in the next few years.
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  20. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    The acting is more convincing. The only cringe part is "For Azeroth!", which needs to be dropped. Your average human fights for Stormwind or the Alliance, not "Earth".
    Good point.
    Beyond that some thought was given in the use of language though. When she latched on the word "mundane" she reacted as if the word was strange...which made sense in a fantasy world. (That had to be Vanessa vanCleef at the end bursting through the doorway)

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