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  1. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    It'll be interesting to see if "defund the ____" is suddenly a "good slogan" now that it's serving Republican interests, at least.
    Sure seems it is fine now that almost every Republican has tweeted it or has said it.

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    All of the posters who were vehemently against defund the police are now mysteriously absent from this thread.

    Who'da thunk it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Just came here to remind people that the right has no moral conscious. If they ever try to morally scold you, it's not because they think what you're doing is wrong. Is because it's effective, and want to discourage you from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    All of the posters who were vehemently against defund the police are now mysteriously absent from this thread.

    Who'da thunk it?
    Seems to be as stupid as defund the police is.

  4. #424
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Seems to be as stupid as defund the police is.
    Yes, it surely is - and the US is sliding further backwards, as Trump said 'The Mob takes the 5th'.

    As soon as institutions are perceived (and in some cases fact already are) politicized there's a real danger that it will create a vicious cycle, as in failed states, where people see (imagined or real) injustice and don't want to fix it, but instead ensure that they themselves benefit.

    However, "defund the FBI" will likely soon disappear as a slogan and seems best discussed in the political threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    Yes, it surely is - and the US is sliding further backwards, as Trump said 'The Mob takes the 5th'.

    As soon as institutions are perceived (and in some cases fact already are) politicized there's a real danger that it will create a vicious cycle, as in failed states, where people see (imagined or real) injustice and don't want to fix it, but instead ensure that they themselves benefit.

    However, "defund the FBI" will likely soon disappear as a slogan and seems best discussed in the political threads.
    Yes, it's a shame that the supreme court has been packed with fundie conservative judges who rule based on the "bible" and not the constitution, but at least Trump might face justice. We already got Alex Jones for the terrible things he did.
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    Just came here to remind people that the right has no moral conscious. If they ever try to morally scold you, it's not because they think what you're doing is wrong. Is because it's effective, and want to discourage you from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    All of the posters who were vehemently against defund the police are now mysteriously absent from this thread.

    Who'da thunk it?
    The product of their bad faith arguments coming to bite them in the ass.

    And you have the people on the left who allowed them to control the narrative.

    Hate to see it.

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    We've already established that 'defund the police' is not about abolishing police (unless you want to claim a very small group of people speak for everyone) and that attempts to changer the slogan were made, mainstream media and politicians allowed bad faith actors to steer the ship.

    I don't see many people arguing the true intent of the moment, to reallocate funds for training/new class of responders. We have to beat keep being the "bad slogan" horse that died eons ago. I definitely have not seen any comments that suggest more funding means better law enforcement or that specialized training/divisions will somehow collapse law enforcement.


    Now we have people, people who are actually unhinged, violent, yada yada, talking about ACTUAL ABOLISHMENT AND NOT JUST BAD MARKETING. They using the slogan "reasonable moderates" allowed them warp because those "reasonable moderates" validated the bad faith arguments.

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  8. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    All of the posters who were vehemently against defund the police are now mysteriously absent from this thread.

    Who'da thunk it?
    Because this thread I assume is about your basic police officers, not the FBI. I find the Republicans that have been screaming Defund the FBI to be morons.

  9. #429
    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    Because this thread I assume is about your basic police officers, not the FBI. I find the Republicans that have been screaming Defund the FBI to be morons.
    I think it's pretty obvious that republicans only support the police unless it's getting in their way evidenced by the Jan 6th insurrection and its fallout.

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    No, what stupid idiot would say "defund"?

    No, you need to FUND YOUR DAMN SYSTEM!

    You need to actually demand a longer education, and fill up the needed courses. There should be no badge or service until you've passed a 4+ year education.

    Defunding the police is idiot talk, and does not solve the problem within the force, or within the people of the nation - just makes it worse.

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    The left: Defund the police to make it less militarized in urban areas, and more responsive to the minority communities it serves.

    The right: Defund the police because they're going after our God-King Trump for committing crimes.

    You can't make this stuff up.

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    I don't believe in defuding the Police. I believe in Open Discussion to find the root of problems.

    The system doesn't work. It's a mascerade. They want Laws so the poor and middle people obey, and don't set everything on fire. But they also want the cops and feds to ignore whenever the rich and elite ignore the Law. Proving it ain't real - just one group of people trying to say the other group of people are guilty. Makes you even wonder what the Law actually is - is there any purpose behind it? Or is someone just pulling something out of their ass like a Tyrant? Like who was it? King James saying - My foot is now the measurement of the world" or some crap?

    So they avoid hiring genius cops. You don't want a super cop using super intiuition arresting your bosses and donors.

    So there's this whole LARP and charade - The Lawwww. Justice is blind.

    The Law is what you make of it, personally, to me. The morals you wanna live by. I fear God so I allign my morals with Justice and Do Good, personally.

    I learned that Hate Laws and Cyber Laws - they pulled both of these out of their ass to confuse citizens. It's akin to calling it Super Crimes - acting like regular crime wasn't enough. Have to Up it to Super Level and put it a word from it. Breaking and entering wasn't already illegal with reason, but watch out for that Computer Hacking! Fancy Science words! Be confused, don't research and ask questions! Trust and obey!

    Anyway.

  14. #434
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Not that crazy. It was a police department consisting of 3 individuals and they're just going to contract with the Sheriff's Office for that county for their law enforcement needs from this point forward with the option of re-establishing a local PD in the future. I'm not really sure if they ever really needed a police department in the first place. I supose that, now that it has been disbanded, the residents will be able to evaluate for themselves whether or not they do.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolface330 View Post
    I don't believe in defuding the Police. I believe in Open Discussion to find the root of problems.

    The system doesn't work. It's a mascerade. They want Laws so the poor and middle people obey, and don't set everything on fire. But they also want the cops and feds to ignore whenever the rich and elite ignore the Law. Proving it ain't real - just one group of people trying to say the other group of people are guilty. Makes you even wonder what the Law actually is - is there any purpose behind it? Or is someone just pulling something out of their ass like a Tyrant? Like who was it? King James saying - My foot is now the measurement of the world" or some crap?

    So they avoid hiring genius cops. You don't want a super cop using super intiuition arresting your bosses and donors.

    So there's this whole LARP and charade - The Lawwww. Justice is blind.

    The Law is what you make of it, personally, to me. The morals you wanna live by. I fear God so I allign my morals with Justice and Do Good, personally.

    I learned that Hate Laws and Cyber Laws - they pulled both of these out of their ass to confuse citizens. It's akin to calling it Super Crimes - acting like regular crime wasn't enough. Have to Up it to Super Level and put it a word from it. Breaking and entering wasn't already illegal with reason, but watch out for that Computer Hacking! Fancy Science words! Be confused, don't research and ask questions! Trust and obey!

    Anyway.
    Man this just spiraled into pure lunacy.
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