Can we talk about instant cast portals and teleport?????

[Sugani]

• Portal Creates a portal, teleporting group members that use it to a Major City. 4% of Base Mana. 10 sec cast. Instant.

• Teleport Teleports you to a major city. 3% of Base Mana. 10 sec cast. Instant.

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ancient Dalaran portal spoofs are gonna be so much easier to pull off. Portal Roulette?!? This is a dream.


God damn I hope these changes make it to the live game.

[LedZeppelin]

literally makes mages ungankable. terrible change

[Stickiler]

Gonna make a Portal Roulette macro for this, this is such a fantastic change.

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literally makes mages ungankable. terrible change

Nobody gives a shit about your World PvP

[Sugani]

literally makes mages ungankable. terrible change

Sounds fantastic to me!

[Biomega]

For when your M+ key is 2 seconds behind timer.

Love it.

Suck it, BubbleHearth Paladins!

[Nynax]

literally makes mages ungankable. terrible change

Mage's will make up for it by trolling themselves with accidental teleports at really bad times, lol.

[Puri]

Nah, instant seems unlikely. But a change to 3s would be a nice qol change.

[Biomega]

With no cooldown instant cast Teleport, you can technically blink across the entire world.

[TheWorkingTitle]

I don't like this.

Maybe 4 to 5 seconds, but not instant. It takes away from the magnitude of the spell. Too big of a change.

It would be abused to all hell, too.

[Amnaught]

literally makes mages ungankable. terrible change

If paladins can have bubble hearth then mages can have instant teleport

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I don't like this.

Maybe 4 to 5 seconds, but not instant. It takes away from the magnitude of the spell. Too big of a change.

It would be abused to all hell, too.

How would it be abused? How *could* it be abused in a way that isn't equivalent to vanish, feign death, bubble hearth, or similar effects?

[Vakir]

Tooltip weirdness. On the PTR it's the usual cast times.

[TheWorkingTitle]

How would it be abused? How *could* it be abused in a way that isn't equivalent to vanish, feign death, bubble hearth, or similar effects?

Well, people normally have 8-10 seconds to spot a Mage making a portal in a trolling fashion. With this supposed change, that same Mage can now place portals anywhere they want instantly. Right over top of Food buff tables, soul wells, etc.

Or how about right as a Battleground starts such as Alterac Valley. Initially you could open portals before the game started. It was abused for years and finally turned off. Now, right as the game starts Mages can open them up all where people could accidentally click it.

Someone already brought up PvP interactions where a Mage wouldn't normally be able to escape due to the long cast time. With it instant it becomes a bit too powerful.

There's probably more that don't immediately come to mind.

[kenn9530]

Well, people normally have 8-10 seconds to spot a Mage making a portal in a trolling fashion. With this supposed change, that same Mage can now place portals anywhere they want instantly. Right over top of Food buff tables, soul wells, etc.

Or how about right as a Battleground starts such as Alterac Valley. Initially you could open portals before the game started. It was abused for years and finally turned off. Now, right as the game starts Mages can open them up all where people could accidentally click it.

Someone already brought up PvP interactions where a Mage wouldn't normally be able to escape due to the long cast time. With it instant it becomes a bit too powerful.

There's probably more that don't immediately come to mind.

World PvP is not really a main thing in the game, its largely ignored so being able to run away is fine, how is it too powerful that you can escape if you dont want to do combat, most of world PvP is just a group ganking other players.

[TheWorkingTitle]

World PvP is not really a main thing in the game, its largely ignored so being able to run away is fine, how is it too powerful that you can escape if you dont want to do combat, most of world PvP is just a group ganking other players.

Because this change would be as if Mage now has a permanent Presence of Mind buff on their Portal spell. If you can't see how that is too powerful, I don't know what to tell you.

[Mysterymask]

If paladins can have bubble hearth then mages can have instant teleport

How would it be abused? How *could* it be abused in a way that isn't equivalent to vanish, feign death, bubble hearth, or similar effects?

Bubble can be purged and dispelled vanish can be seen

Instant your just gone on the other hand absolutely cannot be countered by anyone..

[kenn9530]

Because this change would be as if Mage now has a permanent Presence of Mind buff on their Portal spell. If you can't see how that is too powerful, I don't know what to tell you.

How is being able to run away from combat too powerful, just because you want to gank that player, once you teleport it could take 5 mins to get back to where the mage was if they still had something to do, its purely a spell to get away from combat, that is not considered powerful. You get next to nothing from killing a player in world PvP as it is anyway.

[Lollis]

Bubble can be purged and dispelled vanish can be seen

Instant your just gone on the other hand absolutely cannot be countered by anyone..

And unless the mage is playing Arcane, you can see the fade icon for invisibility, and dropping combat is not instant.

You cannot cast Portal or Teleport while in combat.

[LedZeppelin]

If paladins can have bubble hearth then mages can have instant teleport

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How would it be abused? How *could* it be abused in a way that isn't equivalent to vanish, feign death, bubble hearth, or similar effects?

2 of those arent even close and bubble hearth is a meme

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And unless the mage is playing Arcane, you can see the fade icon for invisibility, and dropping combat is not instant.

You cannot cast Portal or Teleport while in combat.

sure you cant while in combat... but if you are able to drop combat for .0001 seconds you get away.

[shise]

Nah, instant seems unlikely. But a change to 3s would be a nice qol change.

That is the most likely.

Maybe instant portals, but definitely wont happen with teleportation. The amount of nightmares that would bring is not worth it of implementation :P

[klaps_05]

they tried this change twice in the past, it never made it to live. would be hilarious to spam instant portals in bgs/raids/dungeons/etc.