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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceVega View Post
    I don't think this has anything to do with "leftists"... no idea where that come from tbh.
    But the artstyle DID change since BfA.
    Sets are getting clunkier. With huge anime style armor pieces (even fpr the allready huge armors in wow since the beginnging) and models get... cutesy.
    Maybe the gave them more freedom in designing or a general change in style.
    Even FF14 looks more serious right now than wow with cuddly hoggers and the new furbolg model.

    Maybe it is this weird sausage hair they tend to use now everywhere. Idk... but everythign shown so far from DF is a longshot from what we had in BfA. Not really serious. Like the MCU who had a few serious topics in the beginning and now is just one pun after another.
    Read through the thread it’s filled with thinly vailed “lgbt and leftist devs are ruining the game” post.

    As to the shift in art post BFA, there just hasn’t been one you can even look at the hyenas and see that they fit in fine with the Gnoll’s. What’s actually happened if that a lot of players have there own ideas of what wow creatures should look like beyond like 5 polygon models we had in classic and they are applying those ideas to what they think the new models should look like while blizzard doesn’t agree.

    Pretty much gnoll’s have always had silly looking models and it’s only the low quaility of classic era models that make people imagine they were ever dark in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    modelling or painting with accurate anatomy helps with the overall art even if some details aren't seen.
    Nothing wrong with it either.
    You don't need to add parts under clothing, how would adding nipples help model a fully clothed character?
    This feels like the half life cinematic mod all over again.
    "Hey I needed to add that because details are important!"

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    Looks like they bleached him like Michael Jackson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    You guys are legit whining over every little changes in the game. No wonder the game is declining harder then any other game jesus fuck.
    The model doesnt even look bad at all...
    Going from brown to white fur color is not a little change.

    The game is declining, because #1 it's old as fuck, and the people that played when they were teens are now hovering around 30, and are growing up, and don't have time for WoW, and #2, because of lack of content, and innovative things. There needs to be something on the level of innovativeness of M+ every expansion, and 4 months tops between major patches.
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  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    Granted, but that's not a reason to change the silhouette so drastically. We could have a high poly model of this weird creature just fine.
    It's miles better. The only gripe people have with it is the eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    I'll take the cardboard cut out over the stuffed kids toy anyway. At least cardboard is threatening enough to cause a paper cut :P

    But as much as I like the gnoll model it isn't a good Hogger model, maybe as one of the more lowbie grunts in game. Hell, the caster gnolls look amazing and more intimidating. :P
    That thing looks like something pulled out of a windows 95 game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    You guys are legit whining over every little changes in the game. No wonder the game is declining harder then any other game jesus fuck.
    The model doesnt even look bad at all...
    Sure, the model looks good. But does it look like Hogger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkyjunky View Post
    Sure, the model looks good. But does it look like Hogger?
    It's likely just the wrong model put on by a mass swap there are already Gnoll's that have the right look to match current hogger.


    also to the thread in general, looking around at beta stuff and the Gnoll's have actual expression now instead of them permanent Snarl of the classic model.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    You guys are legit whining over every little changes in the game. No wonder the game is declining harder then any other game jesus fuck.
    The model doesnt even look bad at all...
    If they become this angry at change in a video game it isn't hard to guess how they deal with change in the real world too. Like oof talk about putting yourself on blast like that, it's like they themselves forgot that there is a person behind their own keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    It's likely just the wrong model put on by a mass swap there are already Gnoll's that have the right look to match current hogger.


    also to the thread in general, looking around at beta stuff and the Gnoll's have actual expression now instead of them permanent Snarl of the classic model.
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    https://twitter.com/valarynn/status/1547931510996553733
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    It's likely just the wrong model put on by a mass swap there are already Gnoll's that have the right look to match current hogger.


    also to the thread in general, looking around at beta stuff and the Gnoll's have actual expression now instead of them permanent Snarl of the classic model.



    https://twitter.com/valarynn/status/1547931510996553733
    These do look good...
    But why the human eyes on everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    These do look good...
    But why the human eyes on everything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post

    Pretty much gnoll’s have always had silly looking models and it’s only the low quaility of classic era models that make people imagine they were ever dark in any way.
    I'm pretty sure their association with DnD Gnolls AND THEM PATCHING THEIR TENTS WITH LITERAL STICHED HUMAN FACES is what attributed to the dark, fearful nature of WoW Gnoll's.

    Edited to add image for reference - https://i.redd.it/i68qn13254f31.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celvira View Post
    I'm pretty sure their association with DnD Gnolls AND THEM PATCHING THEIR TENTS WITH LITERAL STICHED HUMAN FACES is what attributed to the dark, fearful nature of WoW Gnoll's.

    Edited to add image for reference - https://i.redd.it/i68qn13254f31.jpg
    I mean sure Gnoll's have some darker stuff hidden around them but there model it self was never dark they were always silly looking hyena people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkyjunky View Post
    Sure, the model looks good. But does it look like Hogger?
    Hogger looked like a generic gnoll but was given a name. That's all that made Hogger stand out, full stop.

    The meme of people getting rocked by Hogger made him popular, which ultimately allowed him to become a character in HoTS, but that character has absolutely nothing in common with 'Generic NPC w/ Name' and considering they did nothing to make Hogger in WoW look like Hogger in HoTS, prior to this graphical update, the fact people are so up at arms about this when the named NPC was *Never* uniquely modeled, is absolutely fucking mindboggling.

    Like, do people wake up and and decide not to use a lick of common sense or logic when making these arguments?

    (Rhetorical question, of course not.)
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    I can sort of understand the hate. Even if Hogger was nothing but a generic model, he was iconic for many players, and became a cherished, nostalgic memory. Even if the remodel was widely-praised as a success, people would still be heartbroken over the loss of the old, clunky model.

    Honestly, I would have died if they kept Hogger in his current low-poly state, but converted the rest of the Gnoll's to use the new models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    Look how they massacred my boy!



    Seriously, I usually love when they update models. The WoD/Legion demons, the updated kodo mounts, the new nightsabers..... what were they thinking turning the gnolls into fucking Disney puppies???

    This guy eat bones, man, not Scooby Snacks!
    Who the heck kills Hogger at this point in the game's lifespan? He was worth killing from vanilla thru Wrath when he was actually a challenge and players in Northshire zone would spam 1) General for Hogger raids.

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    I agree, he should look like this.


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    To quote the late TotalBiscuit..
    "Beta is beta."

    Relax. It's the first Alpha build. And Hogger is a unique and iconic character that's featured in a lot of properties. I'm pretty sure Hogger will get a unique model before launch day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    Look how they massacred my boy!



    Seriously, I usually love when they update models. The WoD/Legion demons, the updated kodo mounts, the new nightsabers..... what were they thinking turning the gnolls into fucking Disney puppies???

    This guy eat bones, man, not Scooby Snacks!
    Yeah man, WoW used to be Samwise Metzen Metal. They're going for "cute" over "badass" lately and it's really hard to relate to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molvonos View Post
    Hogger looked like a generic gnoll but was given a name. That's all that made Hogger stand out, full stop.

    The meme of people getting rocked by Hogger made him popular, which ultimately allowed him to become a character in HoTS, but that character has absolutely nothing in common with 'Generic NPC w/ Name' and considering they did nothing to make Hogger in WoW look like Hogger in HoTS, prior to this graphical update, the fact people are so up at arms about this when the named NPC was *Never* uniquely modeled, is absolutely fucking mindboggling.

    Like, do people wake up and and decide not to use a lick of common sense or logic when making these arguments?

    (Rhetorical question, of course not.)
    Yes, it was a generic model. But how does it invalidate my question? And why didn't you just answer it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkyjunky View Post
    Yes, it was a generic model. But how does it invalidate my question? And why didn't you just answer it
    It very clearly answered your question, whether or not you want to believe it and instead finagle your way through whatever mental gymnastics needed to keep being upset about stupid shit is on you.

    Hogger looks like any and every other generic melee-fighter gnoll. He looked like that prior to the graphic overhaul and he looks like it now. Whether or not the art team makes something that's more 'unique' beyond that point (since it's still alpha and everything is subject to change) doesn't matter.

    Your question was answered. You just dont like the answer given to you since you're clearly wanting an echo chamber with your response.
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