Could we relax the gender rules to mock blizzards laughable pandering?

[Kharadin]

ITT: A lot of sensitive snowflakes upset at inclusivity

[Farora]

No, that was needed. Gay and trans people were already accepted in most of the west when woke idealology started taking over and was not needed. All of the destruction that has happened has been for nothing.

Woke was never to help anyone anyway. But yeah this topic will get deleted by a woke mod soon.

[Video Games]

Jesus h christ. You actually think of yourself as a liberal? Like, for real?

Yes. I am an bill clinton, al gore and obama supporting, jon stewart and george carlin watching lib. Cope

[Katchii]

Nothing is being forced on anyone. Nobody is being commanded to be trans.

You already spent an entire post giving examples of forcing ideologies on other people. GTFO.

[NineSpine]

No, that was needed. Gay and trans people were already accepted in most of the west when woke idealology started taking over and was not needed. All of the destruction that has happened has been for nothing.

Gay marriage was still illegal in much of the country in 2015. You aren't dealing with reality.

Why did trans issues suddenly become a big deal? Because conservatives started going after them with new laws. Trans people using the bathroom only became an issue when states started trying to pass laws about it, because conservatives were looking for a new culture war after they lost the one on gay people. If conservatives weren't trying to use the law to go after trans people, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

[Santti]

Woke was never to help anyone anyway. But yeah this topic will get deleted by a woke mod soon.

I can't tell if you are being serious with your posts. It reads like caricature.

[Tyris Flare]

Jesus h christ. You actually think of yourself as a liberal? Like, for real?

whatever someone's personal position on these things, the reality is that a huge amount of liberal/left whatever you want to call it positions are unpopular even among democrats.

-gay marriage? popular
-trans rights? popular with a big * because it depends on specifics
-women in men's sports? unpopular
-defund the police? very unpopular
-changing school curriculums? very unpopular
-affirmative action? increasingly unpopular, especially among asian americans

If the term "liberal" means someone supports all these positions, you're looking at like <20% of the country. They aren't even unpopular among minority groups they claim to support.

[NineSpine]

You already spent an entire post giving examples of forcing ideologies on other people. GTFO.

Yeah, we force people to do things like.... not fly planes into buildings. That's my point. We force ideologies all the time, but who is being forced to be trans here?

[Katchii]

Being forced?

Who's being forced into any ideology? How does picking between two body types suddenly "force" you into any ideology? Were you forced into an ideology when creating a character in Elden Ring or New World?

It's literally just the text and icon of a button. No one's being "forced" into anything.

Again, I'm not the one making the argument, just trying to define what the argument was to someone who apparently couldn't understand it.

[Farora]

Gay marriage was still illegal in much of the country in 2015. You aren't dealing with reality.

Why did trans issues suddenly become a big deal? Because conservatives started going after them with new laws. Trans people using the bathroom only became an issue when states started trying to pass laws about it, because conservatives were looking for a new culture war after they lost the one on gay people. If conservatives weren't trying to use the law to go after trans people, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

That's why the USA has gone mad with woke the most. Your 2 tribes war.

[Katchii]

Yeah, we force people to do things like.... not fly planes into buildings. That's my point. We force ideologies all the time, but who is being forced to be trans here?

Who the fuck said anything about forcing someone to be trans? You're the only one doing that.

[NineSpine]

whatever someone's personal position on these things, the reality is that a huge amount of liberal/left whatever you want to call it positions are unpopular even among democrats.

-gay marriage? popular
-trans rights? popular with a big * because it depends on specifics
-women in men's sports? unpopular
-defund the police? very unpopular
-changing school curriculums? very unpopular
-affirmative action? increasingly unpopular, especially among asian americans

If the term "liberal" means someone supports all these positions, you're looking at like <20% of the country. They are even unpopular among minority groups they claim to support.

The actual tenets of defund the police poll exceptionally well. The slogan is unpopular.
"Changing the school curriculum" doesn't mean anything. Changing it to what?
Affirmative action is so wildly misunderstood that appealing to the public on it is difficult. Most people still think affirmative action calls for quotas, which has not been part of affirmative action for forty years due to court rulings.

[Powerogue]

It is relevant to Blizzard and the company, so I'd say yes. Generally I'm in favor of relaxed rules as long as people can discuss them without devolving into unproductive trolling/insulting, which is how most of those rules wound up there in the first place.

Edit: Like this one, man how did it get that bad in six pages?

[NineSpine]

That's why the USA has gone mad with woke the most. Your 2 tribes war.

Yes, in the war between "Leave people alone and treat them with dignity" and "Legislate how everyone lives their life", we all went mad.

[Kralljin]

Yeah, exactly - the racial got changed (pretty sure on both retail *and* classic) because of more inclusive language.

Yes, your point?
So far the only other spell that has been renamed in the Classic beta was changed for that exact reason, thanks for establishing what i already said.

We don't really know why they changed the other, especially when it isn't changed on retail!

Well, because another Retail patch isn't due until DF pre patch and they're not going to hotfix this.
That's why you also don't have any of that social contract business in Classic right now but on the Wotlk Beta, that only comes in once they patch the client.

And if you're that big on thinking, then feel free to elaborate why a debuff in content that's not even relevant to Classic Wotlk was re named.
Especially, *just* in Classic Wotlk.

[Zolaris192]

Opposition to social progress and a support of social intolerance is not liberal.

criticizing others is not telling them they can't do something

silencing others and deplatforming them for saying something you disagree with is not liberal

[nvaelz]

Yes, in the war between "Leave people alone and treat them with dignity" and "Legislate how everyone lives their life", we all went mad.

Yes and we should continue protecting eachother, what's most important is that we protect those that aren't the same as us. And what's more important is that we bridge those gaps because we are inherently the same.

Alot of fear when one group is gaining power and they see another group as an enemy, and ofcourse in that "enemy" group of people there are true enemies, but most of those people are innocent and vulnerable and do not deserve to be cannon fodder in a war.

[Selah]

Oh, shameless pandering it is. Ironically this works against the people it's meant to serve. Especially trans people who identify as the opposite sex. So, instead of transwomen being women - it's now transwomen are body type 2. I can't imagine how erased that must make trans people feel.

The reasoning turns around and contradicts itself with the choice of pronouns. Either male and female exists or it doesn't. Not to mention how alienating this must be for anyone that identifies as male or female.

[NineSpine]

criticizing others is not telling them they can't do something

silencing others and deplatforming them for saying something you disagree with is not liberal

1. Nobody is being silenced by the left.
2. Nobody is entitled to a platform.

[Delekii]

criticizing others is not telling them they can't do something

silencing others and deplatforming them for saying something you disagree with is not liberal

Deplatforming.. a word used only by right wing ranters who don't see the hilarity in expecting privately owned entities to provide them with a soapbox.

Nobody is silencing anyone, besides where it is criminally destructive in the form of literal hate speech.