Evoker is too powerful

[daverz]

Waiting for you to show where I've even remotely made that my argument. the class is broken because it has an undocumented mechanic attached to an escape mechanism that clearly should not be there unless it is documented.

So by this logic you'd be happy if it just stated "breaks stuns" in the text. It's alpha for crying out loud. I'm not sure what happened to make you feel the need to post here where it will make no difference to the game but you're clearly not being reasonable.

[Phob]

I cant touch them so they op. Meanwhile they also cant touch you until they reach 25 yards. Easy af to counter. Just saying.

[Velerios]

it's a hero class. It's supposed to be op for the xpac

Nope, it isn't. That said, we aren't even closely for number balancing.. The OP sees the class on the alpha, it has too high numbers, NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT. Sorry, but that is bullshit; mechanically the class needs to work, numbers tuning is the easiest thing they can do; even after the release.

[neescher]

Wait, Monk came out OP?

No, people just like to complain and hate on new things.

[Gumble]

Mages all with Slow with no CD should make for an interesting time. Mobile Scorch and Slow will be pretty funny to watch. Maybe you should name your evoker "Outofrange"

[ClassicPeon]

nerf it nerf it nerf it. That fly ability lets healers just fly out of deathgrip range when they are stunned with asphyxiate. Nerf it.

PvP is 100% irrelevant sidecontent. Do not balance the game around it.

[plz delete account]

PvP is 100% irrelevant sidecontent. Do not balance the game around it.

All I was asking for was something that was unintended to either be fixed (stunning, them flying away, and landing while still stunned, as evidenced by them not being able to do anything for a short while until Asphyxiate finally expires)

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It's been fixed since then. You shouldn't have been able to fly while stunned in PvP and PvE unless the ability was able to stunbreak.

[Thes]

PvP is 100% irrelevant sidecontent. Do not balance the game around it.

PVE balance is irrelevant because you're just killing npc's.

[alturic]

PVE balance is irrelevant because you're just killing npc's.

What's kind've funny about this comment, quoting their comment, is that it goes to show the epitome of not being able to please everyone. One camp will hate any changes due to PVP, while the other camp with hate changes due to PVE. Although, you have to admit the lesser of two evils is not catering to the smaller PVP camp.

[Feali]

Wait, Monk came out OP?

If by OP you mean "overpowered fun to play" then yes, otherwise no. It was actually shockingly balanced to borderline underperforming back then.

[HansOlo]

nerf it nerf it nerf it. That fly ability lets healers just fly out of deathgrip range when they are stunned with asphyxiate. Nerf it.

If you really like PvP - you should enjoy the challenge of beating evokers. Figure out tactics etc. That is what PvP is, beating the competition.

By the end of the day, we all know that the top players consists of a priests, mages and rogues. Been like that forever and very consistently(sometimes a druid pops up the ladder).

[ClassicPeon]

PVE balance is irrelevant because you're just killing npc's.

Its a PvE game so no -you are wrong.

There are plenty of good pvp games - wow isnt and never was one of them.

Its objectively a PvE game with pvp sidecontent.

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What's kind've funny about this comment, quoting their comment, is that it goes to show the epitome of not being able to please everyone. One camp will hate any changes due to PVP, while the other camp with hate changes due to PVE. Although, you have to admit the lesser of two evils is not catering to the smaller PVP camp.

This isnt true tbh. The amount of ppl who pvp is extremely small compared to PvE. And wow being a PvE game with added pvp sidecontent also speaks against it.

Any objective person would say your takes are completely bs.

[alturic]

This isnt true tbh. The amount of ppl who pvp is extremely small compared to PvE. And wow being a PvE game with added pvp sidecontent also speaks against it.

Any objective person would say your takes are completely bs.

I don't believe English is your native language.

[Otaka]

I don't believe English is your native language.

Well if it aint then hes writing pretty damn well for a non-native!

[ClassicPeon]

Well if it aint then hes writing pretty damn well for a non-native!

He is just trying to deflect from the topic. I dont know what he think he did by saying i am a non native English speaker - most people here arent i guess?

Maybe he thinks being monolinguistic means he is more intelligent? :P

[Thes]

Its a PvE game so no -you are wrong.

There are plenty of good pvp games - wow isnt and never was one of them.

Its objectively a PvE game with pvp sidecontent.

My point was that PVE balance doesn't matter, not that PVE is not a focus.

[SinR]

Pee Vee Pee has always been a sidegame in WoW. An afterthought.

Honor System wasn't in until after launch, BGs after that.

[Thes]

Pee Vee Pee has always been a sidegame in WoW. An afterthought.

Honor System wasn't in until after launch, BGs after that.

With this kind of argument we could say everything that came after the original launch of the game is an afterthought

And PVP existed when the game launched as long as u picked a PVP server

[Jagera]

I don't believe English is your native language.

If you read his replies to your comment, he kind of roasted you even with English not being his native language.

Funny.

[deenman]

PvP is 100% irrelevant sidecontent. Do not balance the game around it.

they dont rly need to,they can make pvp only changes that work only in that scenario