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  1. #161
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    Given the nature of the GTA games, it only makes sense to make the characters total assholes. The game almost encourages you to be an asshole yourself, from gameplay perspective, so it'd be weird to make the characters anything but pricks. Trevor I feel is the perfect embodiment of your average GTA player.

    I've played GTA 5 through a few times now, and I don't really remember anything all that racist in it.

    My biggest wishlist item right now, is to have some way to make money in the single-player. In GTA 5, the way to do it is atrocious. You have to play the stock market game, and it's so god damn stupid and boring.
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    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    it'd be weird to make the characters anything but pricks
    There is literally nothing to say that they won't still be pricks. You're just probably not going to get chick with a dick jokes or similar.

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    But punching down was one of the best parts of the game. Comedy at the expense of everything, shock value, etc, is the absolute best comedy IMO. Anything that I know would make someone's jaw drop if they heard it is top tier kek. Removing that is removing core identity of the game.

    I remember being 12 playing vice city, seeing the moped for the first time, and dying laughing to the name of the moped being "the faggio." I still laugh seeing it in the modern games.
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  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    I dunno the figures behind disney but its not that surprising a company whos major earners are themeparks which have been effected by covid might have suffered losses in recent years. Doesnt mean its the "go woke go broke" thing that gets thrown around. When largely most consumers are not really looking out for that stuff.

    End game made a record amount of money for a film and features a pointless all female cast shot, captain marvel over 1 billion. I dont think going "woke" means financial failure it comes down to the product/hype behind it
    Except Disney is a publicly traded company with shareholder information and its public information where those losses and profits are coming from. But that was already obvious when you wrote "I dunno the figures behind disney".

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    White men.
    Would that be the only demographic of society it is ok to actively discriminate against?

    I agree, make fun of everyone equally. That's what I do, everyone is fair game

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    Except Disney is a publicly traded company with shareholder information and its public information where those losses and profits are coming from. But that was already obvious when you wrote "I dunno the figures behind disney".
    Oh yes, we must make sure the sensibilities of Vanguard and Blackrock are not offended....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th3Scourge View Post
    Would that be the only demographic of society it is ok to actively discriminate against?
    Well yeah, that is the world we live in.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Well yeah, that is the world we live in.
    Ah yes, the world we live in today where people like you think making fun of or denouncing bigotry, sexism, homophobia or transphobia is "discriminating against white cis straight men" because you can't understand the massive difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Given the nature of the GTA games, it only makes sense to make the characters total assholes. The game almost encourages you to be an asshole yourself, from gameplay perspective, so it'd be weird to make the characters anything but pricks. Trevor I feel is the perfect embodiment of your average GTA player.

    I've played GTA 5 through a few times now, and I don't really remember anything all that racist in it.

    My biggest wishlist item right now, is to have some way to make money in the single-player. In GTA 5, the way to do it is atrocious. You have to play the stock market game, and it's so god damn stupid and boring.
    5 had plenty of racist characters, from the casually racist government agent to some of the people out in Trevor's are. The is that they weren't glorified, instead their faults were out in the open.

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  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    Comedy at the expense of everything, shock value, etc, is the absolute best comedy IMO.
    So I assume Bruno must be one of your favorite comedies of all time? Especially the like 30 seconds of a dick helicoptering around in the middle of the movie? And that Divine's films are your favorites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Well yeah, that is the world we live in.
    Literally not, and I'm still deeply confused where y'all get this stuff.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Nzx View Post
    The funniest part of this whole thing is going to be when Rockstar lampoons the shit out of the people who complained about the game having a female protagonist and all the weirdos that are still holding on to Gamergate go absolutely berserk about it.

    And then there will be a bar called the "White Knight" and one of the characters will say "yass queen" in it and those same people will engage in a conspiracy about how it's a dig at "leftists" and that Rockstar is actually hiding their power level or whatever they call it these days.

    If you're mad about this, you're a mark. Either because you get sucked in by right-wing chuds who spend all day inside making videos complaining about "woke" people and still call themselves "alpha", or because you've been sucked into believing that you have to attach your entire personality to individual traits about yourself and petition everyone and everything for "representation" of those traits.
    I don't think anyone cares about having a girl protag as long as they make her just as much of a piece of crap as the guys have been. The stuff about not punching down though is absolutely worrisome. GTA has always gone after everyone much like the south park creed of everything is okay or nothing is. Plenty of girl characters in gta online for example. Also gotta love bringing up the boogeyman of gamergate tells us a lot about your mindset.
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  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So I assume Bruno must be one of your favorite comedies of all time? Especially the like 30 seconds of a dick helicoptering around in the middle of the movie?
    Bruno is fucking great, as is most of sacha's stuff. "This is the End" is also fucking hilarious, as is most of Seth Rogan's stuff. Vulgarity, inappropriate jokes of any type, etc. I'll laugh at anything if it can be and is intended as comedic.

    And that Divine's films are your favorites?
    I'm not a film buff, so you'll have to elaborate. I don't know what/who divine is

    Some other examples of jokes that punch at white people would be any of Dave Chappelle's white dude portrayals (like the news anchor).
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  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Th3Scourge View Post
    Would that be the only demographic of society it is ok to actively discriminate against?

    I agree, make fun of everyone equally. That's what I do, everyone is fair game

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    Oh yes, we must make sure the sensibilities of Vanguard and Blackrock are not offended....
    I said I didn't know the figures because I have more important things to do with my time than dig through one of the biggest companies in the world to find out if they are successful or not when it's obvious they are and could probably start buying countries if they were allowed
    Suri Cruise and Katie Holmes are SP's.

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    I said I didn't know the figures because I have more important things to do with my time than dig through one of the biggest companies in the world to find out if they are successful or not when it's obvious they are and could probably start buying countries if they were allowed
    Funny enough on the buying countries part they already own a chunk of florida that's bigger than rhode island.

    Along with making the highest grossing movies yearly, along with having the #2 streaming service in the world, along with having the top sports network in NA. Oh sad days, what a dying company indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Funny enough on the buying countries part they already own a chunk of florida that's bigger that rhode island.

    Along with making the highest grossing movies yearly, along with having the #2 streaming service in the world, along with having the top sports network in NA. Oh sad days, what a dying company indeed.
    If disney are dying by thier definition because they made 8 trillion instead of 10 trillion then sign me up for some of that dying.
    Suri Cruise and Katie Holmes are SP's.

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    Do we have anything new?

    or are we still arguing the semantics of having a female protag??
    We're all newbs, some are just more newbier than others.

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    I'm tired. So very tired. Can I just lay my head on your lap and fall asleep?
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  16. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Also gotta love bringing up the boogeyman of gamergate tells us a lot about your mindset.
    Lmao okay dude. Gamergate was co-opted to form today's "alt-right" sphere of white supremacist/misogynist streamers and sycophants, that is a literal fact and it doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum you're on. You can dress it up in pseudo-intellectual Jordan Peterson psychology as much as you want, the vast majority of outcry about having a female protagonist comes from losers who think it's "caving to the SJWs" to acknowledge that women or any other minority exists. There's quite simply no reason to assume that a female protagonist in GTA will be any more "good" as a person than any of the men have been, unless you're projecting that creating a female character means you're a "leftist" and therefore bad.

    The fact that any of this needs to be said is fucking embarrassing. Having a female character isn't a good or a bad thing. It's literally just a thing. If it makes you feel like Rockstar is "on your side", regardless of what side you think that is, you've been sucked in to the culture war and you need to touch grass.

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Nzx View Post
    Lmao okay dude. Gamergate was co-opted to form today's "alt-right" sphere of white supremacist/misogynist streamers and sycophants, that is a literal fact and it doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum you're on. You can dress it up in pseudo-intellectual Jordan Peterson psychology as much as you want, the vast majority of outcry about having a female protagonist comes from losers who think it's "caving to the SJWs" to acknowledge that women or any other minority exists. There's quite simply no reason to assume that a female protagonist in GTA will be any more "good" as a person than any of the men have been, unless you're projecting that creating a female character means you're a "leftist" and therefore bad.

    The fact that any of this needs to be said is fucking embarrassing. Having a female character isn't a good or a bad thing. It's literally just a thing. If it makes you feel like Rockstar is "on your side", regardless of what side you think that is, you've been sucked in to the culture war and you need to touch grass.
    Again nobody gives a flying crap about there being a women as a protagonist besides people farming from clicks from idiots who eat it up to scream about outrage. The worrisome thing is the claim of not punching down. GTA has always been an extremely misanthropic series aka f everyone and the horse they rode in on. If that changes it will not be a good thing for the series.

    The characters in gta are horrible people if this changes the series will lose a lot you aren't supposed to look up to those people if you do I have serious concerns for your mental welfare. Even more than I do after the paragraph of idiocy you just spewed for my calling you out for bringing up something that happened half a decade ago and at least originally had literally nothing to do with what you are crying about.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Again nobody gives a flying crap about there being a women as a protagonist besides people farming from clicks from idiots who eat it up to scream about outrage. The worrisome thing is the claim of not punching down. GTA has always been an extremely misanthropic series aka f everyone and the horse they rode in on. If that changes it will not be a good thing for the series.

    The characters in gta are horrible people if this changes the series will lose a lot you aren't supposed to look up to those people if you do I have serious concerns for your mental welfare. Even more than I do after the paragraph of idiocy you just spewed for my calling you out for bringing up something that happened half a decade ago and at least originally had literally nothing to do with what you are crying about.
    Your post tells me you have clearly never understood the main focus of GTA humor at all. It has never been about "punching down". Notice GTA5 is literally the same game with a transphobic joke removed. Oh wow, such woke harming the humor of the game! Totally changing the point /s.

  19. #179
    This isn't a gamergate thread, folks. Please stay on topic and try to avoid forbidden topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Your post tells me you have clearly never understood the main focus of GTA humor at all. It has never been about "punching down".
    I'd argue this is quite a lot of people, honestly.

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