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    Im very happy for them

    Wonder if Talanji and Rokhan also started something
    Or Baine and Mayla
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    - there goes time leap /s
    "Time shifts again!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.
    It'll probably be in the Book that nobody ever reads
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    Time is convoluted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.
    The small talk might get pretty awkward if said PC is an Alliance one that she and her new husband fought a war against afterwards however. The wedding might happen in a book instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.
    I have to agree with that. I mean we all saw a time skip happening but putting important events like this in the skip seems cheap. Id look more forward to there wedding then the Thrall one in Hyjal

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    For reals, I can see them doing a collection of small stories that cover events that happen between the end of SL and the start of BF

    Again, in a book we'll never read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudmaker View Post
    Of course there is! Time in Shadowlands flies faster and mortals didn’t even get older. I hope we will live up to the day where Azeroth will wake up and emerge from the planet shell.
    I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but I would point out that it specifically says "returned from the realms of Death" not "entered the realms of Death"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    I don't think this is a massive time skip, just a couple of years. A lot of people were thinking the Shadowlands time skip was going to be long enough for the world to change significantly (politically and otherwise) - but this is more of a standard time skip between expansions. I don't know if the time gradient between Azeroth and the Shadowlands is even a factor here.
    This is definitely not a standard time skip. Ever since the Cata time retcon normal expansions usually take 1 year (2 is the maximum) in the lore. You can see this pretty clearly in the ultimate visual guide timeline. Now, we don't know how long the actual plot of Shadowlands lasted but given that several (implying 3 or more) years have passed since the end of Shadowlands means that the skip alone is already longer than most expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    This is definitely not a standard time skip. Ever since the Cata time retcon normal expansions usually take 1 year (2 is the maximum) in the lore. You can see this pretty clearly in the ultimate visual guide timeline. Now, we don't know how long the actual plot of Shadowlands lasted but given that several (implying 3 or more) years have passed since the end of Shadowlands means that the skip alone is already longer than most expansions.
    This might be slightly longer, sure; but still not enough time for major changes to hit the world of the kind people were speculating about (e.g. continents shifting, new kingdoms forming, complete faction dissolution/shifts, etc.)
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    The next time we see Anduin, he'll probably have a beard or longer hair. The reports of him being seen "here or there" are definitely true. Baine, Thrall and Jaina probably know for sure.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    The small talk might get pretty awkward if said PC is an Alliance one that she and her new husband fought a war against afterwards however. The wedding might happen in a book instead.
    Why would it be awkward? The Nightborne Unlock quest is Horde exclusive FYI. I happened to do the entire Insurrection Achievement for the first time on a Horde char and when I did the unlock quest on a different Horde char, Thalyssra acknowledges it as if it was the character she spent time with in Suramar. Same when I did the Lightforged Draenei and Void Elf Unlock quests last month. I did the achievements with one char but did the Unlock quests with different chars. They don't seem to "remember" exactly. LOL.

    That aside. I do find it very strange no pre-Dragonflight book has been announced or even hinted at by now. Maybe they'll come soon afrer the expansion is released but the time skip kinda demands we get books. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    This might be slightly longer, sure; but still not enough time for major changes to hit the world of the kind people were speculating about (e.g. continents shifting, new kingdoms forming, complete faction dissolution/shifts, etc.)
    Why not? Pandaria was revealed after the Cataclysm and Zandalar got wrecked by it too. Also, isn't Stromegarde basically "revived" now?

    I'm waiting to see the updated world map with the Dragon Isles on that note.
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    It's been very clearly stated in both A?H texts that the time skip happened when we returned not while we were there.
    The "time moves differently" aspect of the Shadowlands isn't responsible for this. They're just saying nothing happened for awhile after we got home/SLs ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurabolt View Post
    Why not? Pandaria was revealed after the Cataclysm and Zandalar got wrecked by it too. Also, isn't Stromegarde basically "revived" now?

    I'm waiting to see the updated world map with the Dragon Isles on that note.
    Getting wrecked by a geological disaster and the entire world restructuring itself over eons aren't quite in the same ballpark of events. Stromgarde has been revived since BfA, as well.

    If the placement of the Dragon Isles is consistent with older maps, the Isles should be located west of Quel'Thalas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but I would point out that it specifically says "returned from the realms of Death" not "entered the realms of Death"
    Sarcastic? No. I am just so happy to see her wedding. Shadowlands is technically a black hole, I am pretty sure time flies there differently. I don’t know what do you mean with this entered and returned thingy but I think we just did both. Chronologically you need to enter in order to return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudmaker View Post
    Sarcastic? No. I am just so happy to see her wedding. Shadowlands is technically a black hole, I am pretty sure time flies there differently. I don’t know what do you mean with this entered and returned thingy but I think we just did both. Chronologically you need to enter in order to return.
    No they are saying that it's been a few years AFTER we returned from the Shadowlands. The time skip didn't happen during it, it happened after the Jailer was killed and we returned to Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.
    right? plus im sure PC did some stuff for Lorthemar too...
    kinda rude not to invite or at least let PC know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    You'd think the PC that saved her life, nursed her and her friends back to health, and then broke their addiction to the Nightwell by helping cultivate the arcan'dor tree would get a gilded invitation to the nuptials.
    Only if you're a horde toon. 'cause my Alliance toons got given the middle finger by the "Nightborne want to enter the world in peace not as conquerors, but we'll join the side that commits genocide against the same elves that our people slaughtered in Moon Guard." bullshit that Thalyssra was selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelangel View Post
    Only if you're a horde toon. 'cause my Alliance toons got given the middle finger by the "Nightborne want to enter the world in peace not as conquerors, but we'll join the side that commits genocide against the same elves that our people slaughtered in Moon Guard." bullshit that Thalyssra was selling.
    The Alliance and Horde are currently at peace, so if there was going to be some kind of diplomatic outreach, you'd think this event would qualify.
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