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  1. #141
    Holy shit you guys sticking your foot in it there. That was pretty funny.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    Given how awful the show was thank god. DC films are a pile of shit anyway.
    what about man of steel?

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksteady 87 View Post
    Ouch, part two.

    Again, he's not even a member of the forum (at least not to my knowledge). God forbid you quote someone with the quote feature.

    Also, do people like you just not see your own hypocrisy? It's fascinating.
    In their defense, if you're going to quote someone from outside the forum...you could at least provide a link to avoid these kinds of misunderstandings. Mathew Belloni is hardly a household name.
    Isms bore me. I think they are only brought by people who seek to marginalize the potential of each ism to provide something meaningful. Name it, Capitalism, Socialism, even Communism-- all contain something of merit towards structuring a society. The biggest flaw in human history has been the need to take the worst of a system along with the best. It doesn't have to be all of one and none of another.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    In their defense, if you're going to quote someone from outside the forum...you could at least provide a link to avoid these kinds of misunderstandings. Mathew Belloni is hardly a household name.
    not only that but my link is literally from the publication Mathew Belloni used to work for, and to reiterate... nothing that is said in actual conversation with him contradicts the article that I've linked. second hand info (as in he talked to one of the people in early screening audience) is one person's personal opinion of an early rough cut.

    /shrug. its just fascinating how willing people are to condemn something they personaly haven't seen almost entirely on the basis of personal bias, while ignoring any evidence to the contrary.

    P.S. the quote was made to look like it was from an MMO champion post. note the difference between how my quote from an article looks vs his quote that has an MMO champion quote header. that is a lot of trouble to go through for a gotcha moment that wasn't even a gotcha moment.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    P.S. the quote was made to look like it was from an MMO champion post. note the difference between how my quote from an article looks vs his quote that has an MMO champion quote header. that is a lot of trouble to go through for a gotcha moment that wasn't even a gotcha moment.
    There was no "gotcha moment." Just total cringe at your inability to read, your asinine presumption that everyone must be lying 24/7 apparently, and your exemplary demonstration of that old saying about people who assume.

    I mean, I literally said I'd rather listen to an industry professional rather than a random poster on this forum, then quoted said person... and for some reason that translated to "omg, that's just another poster even though he literally just said he care what other posters have said!"

    But yeah, apparently it's all on me.
    Last edited by Rocksteady 87; 2022-08-13 at 10:29 PM.

  6. #146
    the irony, oh the irony...

    but anyways here's an interesting article that relates to this cancelation and new Discovery/HBO strategy for DC in general https://variety.com/2022/film/news/d...av-1235337927/ what an utter mess :/

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    the irony, oh the irony...
    That word clearly doesn't mean whatever it is you think it means.

    but anyways here's an interesting article that relates to this cancelation and new Discovery/HBO strategy for DC in general https://variety.com/2022/film/news/d...av-1235337927/ what an utter mess :/
    "/shrug. its just fascinating how willing people are to condemn something they personaly haven't seen almost entirely on the basis of personal bias, while ignoring any evidence to the contrary."

    But, hey, apparently it's okay to do so if it's your opinion and you consider something an "utter mess." Because, you know, you're you.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Brenz View Post
    what about man of steel?
    The film that proved Synder hated superheroes yet they kept giving him more films to mess up? Ugh

    Cavill looks good as Superman, but the script and the director may as well have just said "we hate this hero so lets destroy everything that makes him good".

    Alot of the actors in it were quite good, but what they had to work with..... /shudder

    Synder is 100% a disciple of Ayn Rand (admits this in interviews)..... you can't both believe in self-interest above all AND believe in people willing to sacrifice to help others. They do not mesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavoirFaire View Post
    Batman: TAS was a kids cartoon? You take that back!
    It came out on Fox Kids....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumble View Post
    The film that proved Synder hated superheroes yet they kept giving him more films to mess up? Ugh

    Cavill looks good as Superman, but the script and the director may as well have just said "we hate this hero so lets destroy everything that makes him good".

    Alot of the actors in it were quite good, but what they had to work with..... /shudder

    Synder is 100% a disciple of Ayn Rand (admits this in interviews)..... you can't both believe in self-interest above all AND believe in people willing to sacrifice to help others. They do not mesh.
    I've read somewhere that he wanted to build up superman to the person he eventually becomes. but like... his parents do that. superman is who he is because he was raised by Kents. Not despite them like Snyder seems to think. but otherwise, yeah, basically.

    Snyder is all style, barely any substance IMO. that said while DC movies are all over the place in terms of both quality and tone... I honestly kinda liked that they didn't all feel like they came from a conveyer belt. I like marvel movies a lot, but that whole idea of a 10 year plan for DC - terrifies me a bit. cause I've been trying to catch up on some marvel stuff and... even as someone who mostly kept up until pandemic hit, its a LOT. I liked that with DC I could pick and chose and not feel hopelessly lost in references to past content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    It came out on Fox Kids....
    Back in the 90's, most cartoons were watchable by even adult standards, unlike subsequent generations of cartoons. Well, unless it was on Disney channel, but anything on FOX Kids, Cartoon Network, and Nick was mature enough for adult audiences to enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    Back in the 90's, most cartoons were watchable by even adult standards, unlike subsequent generations of cartoons. Well, unless it was on Disney channel, but anything on FOX Kids, Cartoon Network, and Nick was mature enough for adult audiences to enjoy.
    I think people forget just how high brow a lot of cartoons were in the 90's. Aside from like actual educational shows for kids, even Rugrats, a show about literal babies, was entertaining for adults because there were always references to things that would go over the heads of us kids. Then like the Nixon and Clinton jokes in Animaniacs, Brain being an interpretation of Orson Welles and so on and so forth. The DC shows in the 90's were great, and even the original Batman show from the 70's which was on reruns when I was a kid, had all of the camp and wit of the early comics.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    I think people forget just how high brow a lot of cartoons were in the 90's. Aside from like actual educational shows for kids, even Rugrats, a show about literal babies, was entertaining for adults because there were always references to things that would go over the heads of us kids. Then like the Nixon and Clinton jokes in Animaniacs, Brain being an interpretation of Orson Welles and so on and so forth. The DC shows in the 90's were great, and even the original Batman show from the 70's which was on reruns when I was a kid, had all of the camp and wit of the early comics.
    Batman. Animated series was pretty great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq5vNY_FJeE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtLTxBYZHw

    and even in 2000 we had some good stuff in DC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOooJW5SSDA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhPTRMnu7rk

    as for batgirl, I absolutely unironically loved the only season of Birds of Prey we got. that show was pure CW cheesefest and deviated from comics quite a bit, but I loved it anyways. it could have found its footing had it been allowed to, but alas the ratings dropped and so was the show...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenz View Post
    what about man of steel?
    That was one of the worst movies ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    I think people forget just how high brow a lot of cartoons were in the 90's. Aside from like actual educational shows for kids, even Rugrats, a show about literal babies, was entertaining for adults because there were always references to things that would go over the heads of us kids. Then like the Nixon and Clinton jokes in Animaniacs, Brain being an interpretation of Orson Welles and so on and so forth. The DC shows in the 90's were great, and even the original Batman show from the 70's which was on reruns when I was a kid, had all of the camp and wit of the early comics.
    Did any of you know young kids or people who had young kids in the 90s?

    I was a teenager watching Doug and Rugrats, etc. I didn't know any little kids who watched those cartoons. They were not really entertaining for little kids, imo. Kids stuck to Sesame Street and Barney and things like that, things we, as adults, would find as cringe as Bluey or whatever is the du jure these days.

  16. #156
    who asked for this movie to begin with?

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Rendark View Post
    That was one of the worst movies ever made.
    Would you have preferred the bubblegum and popcorn style of marvel?

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Brenz View Post
    Would you have preferred the bubblegum and popcorn style of marvel?
    I would have prefered a movie that actually liked its main character.

    I'd take an Ironman style movie, or a Captain America Winter Soldier style movie. Something that, for all its faults, actually LIKES the superhero they are showing us.


    Synder is good at 2 things, making pretty still-screen images and putting massively unneeded amounts of slowmo into any movie he makes. Other than that, no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Did any of you know young kids or people who had young kids in the 90s?

    I was a teenager watching Doug and Rugrats, etc. I didn't know any little kids who watched those cartoons. They were not really entertaining for little kids, imo. Kids stuck to Sesame Street and Barney and things like that, things we, as adults, would find as cringe as Bluey or whatever is the du jure these days.
    Well I was about 8 when Animaniacs was in full swing and I watched that with my parents a lot. Even on summer vacation, the hotel we were staying at had a big TV in the lobby and it was on TV on Sunday evenings so we'd get together with my dad's coworkers families since they all had kids around my age, and we'd watch that show in particular together.

    I think a lot of parents watched shows with their kids when I was growing up, not just mine. I also watched Star Trek TNG as a kid with my dad. Maybe my experience isn't the same as others, but I know me and those in my social circle did. Heck, my brother was watching Rugrats when he was like 5 or 6 and that show came out the same year he was born.
    Last edited by Rennadrel; 2022-08-14 at 06:09 PM.

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    I will give you that Animaniacs bridged that adult/kid divide pretty well. But I feel like it was one of the first cartoons to ever do so. Yanno, besides the Simpsons, which, if you think about it, isn't for really little kids, especially back in the 80s.

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