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    Dragonflight Alpha - Renown Rewards

    Dragonflight Alpha - Renown Rewards
    Today we're having an early look at the new Renown Rewards in Dragonflight. While this system is not yet available for testing, we do know something about how it works based on the AusGamers interview released after the expansion's announcement.

    On that latter mention of alt-friendliness, there are account-wide tracking achievements for most of the faction's renown levels, indicating this is still the plan.
    Originally Posted by AusGamers
    Looking back extends to recent history too, taking elements from an expansion like Shadowlands and reimagining them for the return to Azeroth. “You're going to be seeing an advancement to the renowned system that we used in Covenants [Shadowlands], which we think is a really cool way to set up a reputation in a way that feels fresh for World of Warcraft,” Jeremy Feasel says. “Our four main reputations each have their own different set of renowned levels and that lets us reward you often. It lets us show you what you're getting during the course of unlocking various different things, whether that's cool cosmetics associated with those reputations or getting additional quest lines associated with them or additional gameplay.”

    “We wanted to go really deep with all of these different aspects,” Jeremy adds. “The new version of daily quests is going to be transferring over to a very activity-centric system that feels like you're always making progress. And unlike Covenants, you don't have to pick one of these different reputations to gain renown. You can do all of them. We’re looking at how we can incorporate alt friendliness in the same way that we did in 9.1.5 too, so it’s all a big refresh to the outdoor world.”



    Note that all of this is still a work in progress, not available for testing yet and as such subject to change.

    Maruuk Centaur

    The various centaur clans of the Ohn'ahran plains all identify as the Maruuk Centaur.

    Note: Most of the rewards for this faction seem to be not yet implemented.


    LevelIconNameDescription
    1Among the Maruuk CentaurJoined forces with the Maruuk centaur on the Ohn'ahran Plains.
    2Maruuk Supply SatchelA satchel full of supplies you can use to aid the various Maruuk Centaur clans.
    3Maruuk Supply SatchelA satchel full of supplies you can use to aid the various Maruuk Centaur clans.
    4Maruuk Supply SatchelA satchel full of supplies you can use to aid the various Maruuk Centaur clans.
    5Path of the TrapperAllows you to unlock the Path of the Trapper with Clan Shikaar.


    Dragonscale Expedition

    The Explorer's League and The Reliquary have joined forces for an expedition into the Dragon Isles.


    LevelIconNameDescription
    1The Dragonscale ExpedtionBegin your adventures with the Dragonscale Expedition.
    2Expedition Scout PacksInformation on finding Expedition Scout packs around the Dragon Isles.
    3Simple Archaeology ToolsPurchase simple archaeology tool transmogs in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    5Buried TreasuresAbility to find and dig through Disturbed Dirt mounds as long as you possess a Expedition Shovel, purchaseable at the Dragonscale Expedition base camp from Pathfinder Jeb.
    5Plans: Enduring ShovelPurchase the Blacksmithing Plans: Enduring Shovel in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    6Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to research the Ancient Waygate.
    7Activity Unlock - Climbing BackpackEarn a Dragonscale Expedition Backpack, allowing you to take part in special clmbing activities across the Dragon Isles.
    7Advanced Archaeology ToolsPurchase larger archaeology tool transmogs in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    8Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    8Mount Customizations IPurchase brow, crest and jaw mount customizations for your Dragon Isle drakes in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    9Activity Unlock - Photography ToursUnlock your Expedition Camera and gain access to the Photography Expedition activities in various places across the Dragon Isles.
    9Wayfinder's CompassReceive the Wayfinder's Compass Toy in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Pathfinder Jeb.
    10Bonus SuppliesIncrease the amount of supplies you discover from treasures by 25%.
    10Designs: GemsPurchase the designs for Radiant Kalecite, Energized Kalecite, Sensei's Neltharite and Keen Neltharite in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    10Schematic: Primal Deconstruction ChargePurchase the Engineering Schematic: Primal Deconstruction Charge in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    10Schematic: Gravity BombPurchase the Schematic: Gravity Bomb in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    11Additional AncientSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    12Referrel Bonus IIncrease the Dragonscale Expedition reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 10 by 25%.
    13Expedition Animal SpecialistPurchase the Marmoset or Black Skitterbug pet in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Granpap Whiskers.
    14Expedition Equipment 1Purchase a pair of Expedition gloves that are item level 382 in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Pathfinder Jeb.
    14Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    15Jewelcrafting TrinketsPurchase the Design: Idol of the Earthwarder and Design: Idol of the Lifebinder in the Dragonscale Basecamp at Boss Magor.
    15Quest Line: Dragonscale Expedition Chapter 1Gain access to the first chapter of the Dragon Expedition's continued adventures.
    16Dragonscale Expedition EnsemblesPurchase Dragonscale Expedition Ensembles in the Dragonscale Expedition basecamp from Pathfinder Jeb.
    17Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    17Crafter's Gear PatternsPurchase the Pattern: Master's Wildercloth Fishing Cap and Pattern: Master's Wildercloth Chef's Hat in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    17Crafter's Gear PatternsPurchase the Design: Scribes Magnifier in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    17Crafter's Gear PatternsPurchase the Schematic: Ore Pack and Schematic: Tailor's Shears in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    18Magic Bound ChestsAbility to open Magic Bound Chests as long as you possess an Enchanted Lockpicks, purchaseable at the Dragonscale Expedition base camp.
    18Formula: Enduring Enchanted LockpicksPurchase the Enchanting Formula: Enduring Enchanted Lockpicks in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    19Explosive ArchaeologyAbility to purchase Expedition Explosives at the Dragonscale Basecamp from Pathfinder Jeb.
    19Technique: Renewed Proto-Drake: Spined Hair ManuscriptPurchase the Technique: Renewed Proto-Drake: Spined Hair Manuscript in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    19Mount Customizations IIPurchase tail, horn and pattern mount customizations for your Dragon Isle drakes in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    20Pattern: Throw Pillow and Pattern: Exlorer's TentPurchase the Tailoring Pattern: Throw Pillow and the Pattern: Exlorer's Tent in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    20Researching in ComfortPurchase various pillow toys in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    20Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    21Bonus Supplies IIIncrease the chance to find double Dragon Isles Supplies in treasure chests to 50%.
    22Pattern: Azureweave Adventurer's PackPurchase the Azureweave Adventurer's Pack in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    22Technique: Dragonscale Expedition ContractPurchase Technique: Dragonscale Expedition Contract in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    22Dragonscale Expedition TabardUnlock the Dragonscale Expedition Tabard from the Dragonscale Basecamp from Cataloger Jakes.
    22Banners of the United FactionsPurchase the banners for the Reliquary and Explorer's League that now are united in the Dragonscale Expedtion in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Cataloger Jakes.
    23Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    23Referrel Bonus IIIncrease the Dragonscale Expedition reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 20 by 50%.
    24Expert Archaeology ToolsPurchase expert archaeology toys in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    25Technique: Illusion Parchments: Magma MissilePurchase the Technique: Illusion Parchments: Magma Missile in the Dragonscale Basecamp at Boss Magor.
    25Mech-a-Duck Treasure TrackerPurchase the Mech-A-Duck Tracker Core in the Expedition Basecamp from Boss Magor, a crucial component in having the Mech-a-Duck pet crafted, which can help you find treasures around the Dragon Isles.
    25Schematic: Enduring Tool BoxPurchase the Schematic: Enduring Toolbox profession recipe in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    25Schematic: Mech-a-DuckPurchase the Schematic: Mech-a-Duck in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    25Pattern: Duck Stuffed Duck LoviePurchase the Pattern: Duck Stuffed Duck Lovie in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Boss Magor.
    25Jeweled Whelpling Treasure MapsUnlocks the ability to find Treasure Maps leading to Jeweled Whelpling materials and patterns, speak to Boss Magor in the Dragonscale Basecamp for your first Treasure Map.
    26Ancient WaygateSeek out Thaelin Darkanvil at the Dragonscale Basecamp to pursue additional Ancient Waygates across the Dragon Isles.
    27Mount Customizations IIIPurchase mount customizations that unlock the Red Skin Color for your Dragon Isle drakes in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Rae'ana.
    28Expedition Equipment IIPurchase a pair of Expedition pants that are item level 398 in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Pathfinder Jeb.
    29Quest Line: Dragonscale Expedition Chapter 2Gain access to the second chapter of the Dragon Expedition's continued adventures.
    30Dragonfly RidingUnlock the ability to find and tame dragonfly mounts, purchase some dragonfly mounts in the Dragonscale Basecamp from Granpap Whiskers.
    30Grand ExpeditionerUnlock the title Grand Expeditioner.


    Iskaara Tuskarr

    Hardy Tuskarr tribe of the Dragon Isles.


    LevelIconNameDescription
    1The Iskaara TuskarrBegin to build a relationship with the Iskaara Tuskarr.
    2Sacred Tuskarr TotemsInformation on identifying Sacred Tuskarr totems that have been stolen.
    3Meal TimeUnlock Meal Time, allowing you to contribute to the great Tuskarr feast and get buffs.
    4Cooking SuppliesPurchase simple cooking toys in Iskaara from _____.
    5Highlands FishingUnlock fishing nodes in the highest pools and lakes of the Dragon Isles.
    5Tuskarr Relics ILearn of stolen Tuskarr Relics taken by their enemies.
    6Fishing NetsUnlock the ability to set Fishing Nets around the Dragon Isles.
    6Mount Customization IPurchase brow, crest and jaw mount customizations for your Dragon Isle drakes in Iskaara from ____.
    7Fishing HarpoonUnlock the ability to Harpoon large sea creatures of the Dragon Isles.
    7Tuskarr HeadwearPurchase warm headwear in Iskaara from _____.
    8Bonus Supplies IGain a 25% chance to gather double Dragon Isles Supplies from plantlife.
    9Stable Master in TrainingPurchase the Purple Ottuk Pup or Blue Timbertooth Pup pets in Iskaara from ____.
    10Ice FishingUnlock fishing nodes in the ice of the Dragon Isles.
    11Quest Line: The Lost TribeGain access to the Lost Tribe Tuskarr questline.
    12Tuskarr EnsembleUnlock the Tuskarr Tracker's Ensemble in Iskaara from _____.
    13Fishing Nets IIUpgrade your Fishing Nets.
    14Referrel Bonus IIncrease the Iskaara Tuskarr reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 10 by 25%.
    15Unknown ToysPurchase the ____ Toys in Iskaara from _____.
    16Tuskarr Equipment IPurchase a pair of Wooly Bracers that are item level 385 in Iskaara from _______.
    17Lava FishingUnlock fishing nodes in the lava of the Dragon Isles.
    17Tuskarr Relics IILearn of stolen Tuskarr Relics taken into Dragon Isles dungeons.
    17Jewelcrafting TrinketsPurchase the Design: Idol of the Spellweaver and Design: Idol of the Dreamweaver in Iskaara at ______.
    18Tuskarr BackpacksPurchase hearty backpacks in Iskaara from _____.
    19Mount Customization IIPurchase tail, horn and pattern mount customizations for your Dragon Isle drakes in Iskaara from ____.
    19Technique: Black Haired Hilghland Drake ManuscriptPurchase the Technique: Black Haired Hilghland Drake Manuscript in Iskaara at ______.
    20Fisherman's FollyPurchase the Fisherman's Folly toys in Iskaara from _____.
    21Fishing Harpoon IIUpgrade your fishing Harpoon.
    21Crafter's Gear PatternsPurchase the Pattern: Magnificent Engineer's Pinch-Proof Handguards, Pattern: Lavish Herbalist's Botany Pack, Pattern: Master Jeweler's Tool Holster, Pattern: Respelendent Skinner's Trapping Cap in Iskaara at ______.
    22Bonus Supplies IIIncrease the chance to gather double Dragon Isles Supplies from plantlife to 50%.
    23Tuskarr TabardUnlock the Iskaara Tuskarr Tabard in Iskaara from _____.
    24Referrel Bonus IIIncrease the Iskaara Tuskarr reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 20 by 50%.
    25Bean BagsPurchase Bean Bags in Iskaara from _____.
    25Pattern: Simple Tuskarr Bean BagPurchase the Pattern: Simple Tuskarr Bean Bag in Iskaara at ______.
    26Tuskarr WeaponryPurchase Tuskarr weaponry in Iskaara from _____.
    27Meal Time IIUpgrade Meal Time, increasing your buffs and streamlining your experience.
    28Snow FunPurchase fun snow themed toys in Iskaara from _____.
    28Technique: Iskaara Tuskarr ContractPurchase the Technique: Iskaara Tuskarr Contract in Iskaara at ______.
    29Fishing CachesAllows you to find Fishing Caches along coasts or near fishing holes.
    30Tuskarr ShoulderpadsPurchase Tuskarr crafted shoulderpads in Iskaara from _____.
    31Mount Customization IIIPurchase mount customizations that unlock the Blue Skin Color for your Dragon Isle drakes in Iskaara from _____.
    32Fishing TacklePurchase a Fishing Tackle box that you can stock to give your friends and yourself bonus fishing skill.
    32Referrel Bonus IIIIncrease the Iskaara Tuskarr reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 30 by 75%.
    33Gnoll BackpacksPurchase Gnoll Backpacks in Iskaara from _____.
    34Tuskarr Equipment IIPurchase a pair of Insulated Shoulderpads that are item level 398 in Iskaara from _______.
    34Crafter's Gear PatternsPurchase the Pattern: Finished Prototype Regal Barding in Iskaara at ______.
    35Ottuk RidingUnlock the ability to purchase and ride Ottuk in Iskaara from ____.
    35Honorary TuskarrUnlock the title Honorary Tuskarr.


    The Valdrakken Accord

    Valdrakken is the shining capital of the dragon flights, and it is here that they have founded an accord to once again assist the mortal races.


    LevelIconNameDescription
    1The Valdrakken AccordBegin to gain renown with the Valdrakken Accord.
    2Ancient Dragon TreasuresUnlock the ability to open Ancient Dragon treasures.
    3Dragon CookingPurchase cooking toys and utensils in Valdrakken from ______.
    5Gardening ToolsPurchase gardening tools in Valdrakken from Gryrmpech.
    6Siege on Dragonbane KeepUnlock the Siege on Dragonbane Keep scenarion in the Waking Shores.
    8Advanced Dragonriding RacesUnlock the Advanced Drgonriding Races in the Dragon Isles.
    9Mount Customization IPurchase brow, crest and jaw mount customizations for your Dragon Isle drakes in Valdrakken from ____.
    10Basic Dragonspawn ShouldersPurchase Basic Dragonspawn Shoulders in Valdrakken from _______.
    11Bonus Supplies IGain a 25% chance to gather double Dragon Isles Supplies from Supply Laden humanoids.
    12Quest Line: Valdrakken Quest Line 1Gain access to the first chapter of the Valdrakken Accord's efforts in the Dragon Isles.
    12Schematic: MechPurchase the Schematic: Mechanical Dragonling Tinker in Valdrakken from ______.
    13Valdrakken Civilian EnsemblesPurchase Valdrakken Civilian Ensembles in Valdrakken from _______.
    14Referrel Bonus IIncrease the Valdrakken Accord reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 10 by 25%.
    15Toy ???Purchase unknown toy in Valdrakken from ______.
    16Drakonid HelmsPurchase Drakonid Helms in Valdrakken from _______.
    17Whelp RescuePurchase the Red and Blue Rescued Proto-Whelp pets in Valdrakken from ____.
    19Valdrakken Equipment IPurchase Jeweled Titan Belts that are item level 385 in Iskaara from _______.
    20Mount Customization IIPurchase tail, horn and pattern mount customizations for your Dragon Isle drakes in Valdrakken from ____.
    21Quest Line: Valdrakken Quest Line 2Gain access to the second chapter of the Valdrakken Accord's efforts in the Dragon Isles.
    22Titan WeaponryPurchase Titan Weaponry in Valdrakken from _______.
    23Referrel Bonus IIIncrease the Valdrakken Accord reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 20 by 50%.
    25Bladed Drakonid ShouldersPurchase Bladed Drakonid Shoulders in Valdrakken from _______.
    25Valdrakken Accord TabardUnlock the Valdrakken Accord Tabard in Valdrakken from _______.
    26Bonus Supplies IIIncrease the chance to gather double Dragon Isles Supplies from Supply Laden humanoids to 50%.
    27Toy ???Purchase unknown toy in Valdrakken from ______.
    29Mount Customization IIIPurchase mount customizations that unlock the Bronze Skin Color for your Dragon Isle drakes in Valdrakken from ____.
    30Dragon BannersPurchase Dragon Banner toys in Valdrakken from ______.
    31Referrel Bonus IIIIncrease the Valdrakken Accord reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 30 by 75%.
    32Elaborate Dragonspawn ShouldersPurchase Elaborate Dragonspawn Shoulders in Valdrakken from _______.
    33Dragon WeaponryPurchase Dragon Weaponry in Valdrakken from _______.
    34Valdrakken Equipment IIPurchase Valdrakken Helms that are item level 398 in Iskaara from _______.
    35Ally of the DragonflightsUnlock the Ally of the Dragonflights title.
    35Mount Customization IVUnlock the Silver and Purple armor for your Dragon Isle drakes as well as the ability to set other armor colors you unlock in Valdrakken from ____.

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    Wait. Renown is coming back in DF? I thought they were eliminating all these "systems" and "multiple currencies" for good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorachus View Post
    Wait. Renown is coming back in DF? I thought they were eliminating all these "systems" and "multiple currencies" for good?
    They said from the start that they're using a Renown system, but that it works slightly differently - notably, you can run multiple at the same time as opposed to picking and committing to a single one, and the rewards are supposedly cosmetic/convenience only and not power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorachus View Post
    Wait. Renown is coming back in DF? I thought they were eliminating all these "systems" and "multiple currencies" for good?
    No that's not what they said, this has been known for a while you just can do all them at the same time and don't have to pick anymore, no throughput is gained from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorachus View Post
    Wait. Renown is coming back in DF? I thought they were eliminating all these "systems" and "multiple currencies" for good?
    This seems more like a rep overhaul to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomega View Post
    They said from the start that they're using a Renown system, but that it works slightly differently - notably, you can run multiple at the same time as opposed to picking and committing to a single one, and the rewards are supposedly cosmetic/convenience only and not power.
    Ok thanks for the explanation. Makes sense.

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    Dragon Isles Supplies? WHY GOD

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    ok so from what I gather each character will still have individual renown but the achievements, and presumably anything locked behind them, will be marked as account wide. This speculation is based on this: "Increase the Iskaara Tuskarr reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 30 by 75%." which would be a pretty cool way of farming paragon caches. just don't increase renown on that particular character and you get bonus rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorachus View Post
    Wait. Renown is coming back in DF? I thought they were eliminating all these "systems" and "multiple currencies" for good?
    They said it's coming in first interviews after reveal of expansion. Renown replace reputations. And aside from typical reputations rewards (catch up gear, schematics), it won't be connected to player power. Also hopefully account-wide achievs mean all rewards will be account-wide as well.

    Hopefully it will lead to introducing some tokens that up any reputation to exalted after you achieved it on main. Because it new reputations are account-wide, why not old? [Or account-wide reputations, tokens would be just easiest way to implement it.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    ok so from what I gather each character will still have individual renown but the achievements, and presumably anything locked behind them, will be marked as account wide. This speculation is based on this: "Increase the Iskaara Tuskarr reputation gain of characters on your account under Renown 30 by 75%." which would be a pretty cool way of farming paragon caches. just don't increase renown on that particular character and you get bonus rep.
    Not sure it'd work this way. We know very little yet about the way renown is actually earned, but based on the recent build changing a bunch reputation fields to allow for larger values as well as none of the quests I've done in the alpha so far rewarding reputation, it might just be synonymous with/replacing the old reputation system.

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    It looks nice - before they time gate it, and ruin everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Not sure it'd work this way. We know very little yet about the way renown is actually earned, but based on the recent build changing a bunch reputation fields to allow for larger values as well as none of the quests I've done in the alpha so far rewarding reputation, it might just be synonymous with/replacing the old reputation system.
    maybe. it is definitely too early to tell, but generally if a level 31 reward applies to alts under level 30 then I think it's safe to say it's not a simple system

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukko View Post
    It looks nice - before they time gate it, and ruin everything
    I mean they might time gate it. if they have learned anything from Shadowlands then we will have renown catch-up in place from week 2 of DF. it is important to note though that none of the rewards from renown give player power (unlike in Shadowlands) so does it really matter if it's timegated? minimum sub time is a month, so to hit max renown will take at least a month but do you think collectors and (most) other players will really only play for a single month? hell if they release the raid in week 3 that doesn't give a lot of time to clear it on mythic so people are going to keep playing whether it's timegated or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukko View Post
    It looks nice - before they time gate it, and ruin everything
    I mean if it's daily quest related like everything else then it's always gonna be time gated just because of how you earn it in the 1st place. Or there may be areas where you can farm the reputation like in warlords of draenor or some of the other expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorachus View Post
    Wait. Renown is coming back in DF? I thought they were eliminating all these "systems" and "multiple currencies" for good?
    Renown isn't really the type of "system" people complained about, it's not quite the same as AP and Covenants where you have a system that directly affects gameplay and basically completes your class.

    Renown is a glorified reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    Renown isn't really the type of "system" people complained about, it's not quite the same as AP and Covenants where you have a system that directly affects gameplay and basically completes your class.

    Renown is a glorified reputation.
    I think the thing people complained about was that renown was tied to player power in SL and it was timegated. but it's not tied to player power in DF, so it should be a fine system, even with timegating

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukko View Post
    It looks nice - before they time gate it, and ruin everything
    Oh no! Reps will be timed gates just like all the worse expans like *checks notes* every single one other then Wod, what ever will we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Oh no! Reps will be timed gates just like all the worse expans like *checks notes* every single one other then Wod, what ever will we do.
    even in MoP the rep grind was restricted to dailies I am pretty sure, only exceptions being Shaohao and Black Prince rep. Cata had tabards for dungeons but MoP definitely didn't have that

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    even in MoP the rep grind was restricted to dailies I am pretty sure, only exceptions being Shaohao and Black Prince rep. Cata had tabards for dungeons but MoP definitely didn't have that
    Cata didn’t have tabards for every rep it still had some be locked to daily’s.

    Wod was the only expan where I don’t think any of the reps had actual time gates and you could grind them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Cata didn’t have tabards for every rep it still had some be locked to daily’s.

    Wod was the only expan where I don’t think any of the reps had actual time gates and you could grind them all.
    oh you're right yeah you could go grind mobs. it's been so long since I've done it I had pushed it out of my mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukko View Post
    It looks nice - before they time gate it, and ruin everything
    Practically guaranteed to be time-gated, just as reputations have... always been.

    Likely this is intended as entirely optional time-sink for daily/weekly activities, giving people who are after the convenience/cosmetics something to do when they log in. Which means it makes total sense for it to be time-gated, so people don't feel like they have to grind everything instantly.

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